Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for python?

2007-03-09 Thread Dick Moores
At 05:04 PM 3/9/2007, Dick Moores wrote: >At 04:22 PM 3/9/2007, ALAN GAULD wrote: > >http://www.netropolis.org/hash/perl/virtue.html > >An Alice in Wonderland world of weirdness! Now here's a world I like: >>> import this The Zen of Python, by Tim Peters Beautiful is better than ugly. Explicit

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for python?

2007-03-09 Thread Dick Moores
At 04:22 PM 3/9/2007, ALAN GAULD wrote: >http://www.netropolis.org/hash/perl/virtue.html An Alice in Wonderland world of weirdness! Dick ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for python?

2007-03-09 Thread ALAN GAULD
> >I'd have thought it was pretty self evident. >> The lazier you are the more automation and assistance you >> want the IDE to provide. > > Maybe, but watch your logic. Wanting more automation and assistance > does not imply laziness. Wanting a washing machine for washing Ah, but remember that

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for python?

2007-03-09 Thread Rob Andrews
It may be worthwhile to note that "laziness" isn't necessarily a derogatory term in programming circles. To quote Eric S. Raymond, who turned me on to Python as much as any other (in _The Art of Unix Programming_), "Constructive laziness is one of the cardinal virtues of the master programmer." -R

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for python?

2007-03-09 Thread Dick Moores
At 02:02 PM 3/9/2007, you wrote: >"Dick Moores" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > > >>Which IDE to use is no more than a matter of taste and laziness. > > > > Wow! Care to support that statement? > >I'd have thought it was pretty self evident. >The lazier you are the more automation and assistance you >

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for python?

2007-03-09 Thread Alan Gauld
"Dick Moores" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >>Which IDE to use is no more than a matter of taste and laziness. > > Wow! Care to support that statement? I'd have thought it was pretty self evident. The lazier you are the more automation and assistance you want the IDE to provide. But if you are a tra

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for python?

2007-03-08 Thread Dick Moores
At 02:17 PM 3/8/2007, Rikard Bosnjakovic wrote: >On 3/8/07, Joydeep Mitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > I would like to know what's the best IDE for python (having all important > > IDE features like debug, etc), other than IDLE. > >Which IDE to use is no more than a matter of taste and laziness

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for python?

2007-03-08 Thread Rikard Bosnjakovic
On 3/8/07, Joydeep Mitra <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I would like to know what's the best IDE for python (having all important > IDE features like debug, etc), other than IDLE. Which IDE to use is no more than a matter of taste and laziness. Myself, I use Emacs (as for to everything). -- - Ri

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for python?

2007-03-08 Thread Ton van Vliet
On Thu, 8 Mar 2007 17:52:06 +0530, you wrote: >Hi all, >I'm a new user of the python programming language. >I would like to know what's the best IDE for python (having all important >IDE features like debug, etc), other than IDLE. >Thanking in advance >Joy There are some ShowMeDo videos that coul

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for python?

2007-03-08 Thread Luke Paireepinart
Joydeep Mitra wrote: > Hi all, > I'm a new user of the python programming language. > I would like to know what's the best IDE for python (having all > important IDE features like debug, etc), other than IDLE. > Thanking in advance Did you read the Tutor FAQ you got when you signed up for the list

[Tutor] Best IDE for python?

2007-03-08 Thread Joydeep Mitra
Hi all, I'm a new user of the python programming language. I would like to know what's the best IDE for python (having all important IDE features like debug, etc), other than IDLE. Thanking in advance Joy ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://ma

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-29 Thread Gabriel Farrell
On Sat, Jan 27, 2007 at 02:58:38AM -0800, Dick Moores wrote: > > > At 07:12 PM 1/24/2007, Shadab Sayani wrote: > Hi, > I am using vim editor to code my project in python.Is there a good > IDEĀ  where in I type the name of the class object and then dot then > all the attributes of the object are di

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-28 Thread anil maran
Vim and emacs are equally good shawn bright <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: i think pydev ( an eclipse plugin ) can too. shawn On 1/27/07, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 07:12 PM 1/24/2007, Shadab Sayani wrote: Hi, I am using vim editor to code my project in python.Is there a good IDE

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-27 Thread shawn bright
i think pydev ( an eclipse plugin ) can too. shawn On 1/27/07, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 07:12 PM 1/24/2007, Shadab Sayani wrote: Hi, I am using vim editor to code my project in python.Is there a good IDE where in I type the name of the class object and then dot then all the a

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-27 Thread Dick Moores
At 07:12 PM 1/24/2007, Shadab Sayani wrote: Hi, I am using vim editor to code my project in python.Is there a good IDEĀ  where in I type the name of the class object and then dot then all the attributes of the object are displayed so on. Ulipad can do this. Dick Moores UliPad <>: http://wiki.woo

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-26 Thread Mark Thomas
On 1/26/07, OkaMthembo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > how useable is vim on Windows? Very! I've used Vim on Windows since the 5.3 version, it only gets better. Like Alan said there is a learning curve, but once you've "got it" there is no going back. > i wish i could learn Unix. which distro do you

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-26 Thread Alan Gauld
"OkaMthembo" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > how useable is vim on Windows? Very usable. I'm an old Unix user who used to use emacs primarily. But when I moved to Windoze I found I didn't like emacs as much so I moved to vim and I don't regret it. > I saw on its site that it was developed > prim

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-26 Thread OkaMthembo
hi guys, how useable is vim on Windows? i saw on its site that it was developed primarily as a Unix tool. i wish i could learn Unix. which distro do you think is good to learn? ive been eyeing FreeBSD but ive got untouched Ubuntus. thanks_up_ front() "Shortash" On 1/25/07, Mike Hansen <[EMAIL

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-26 Thread Dave S
On Thursday 25 January 2007 03:12, Shadab Sayani wrote: > Hi, > I am using vim editor to code my project in python.Is there a good IDE > where in I type the name of the class object and then dot then all the > attributes of the object are displayed so on.I tried to install IDLE but I > have n

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-25 Thread Eike Welk
On Thursday 25 January 2007 04:12, Shadab Sayani wrote: > Hi, > I am using vim editor to code my project in python.Is there a > good IDE where in I type the name of the class object and then > dot then all the attributes of the object are displayed so on.I I use Pydev, it is a plugin for the

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-25 Thread Dave Kuhlman
On Thu, Jan 25, 2007 at 07:02:43AM -0900, Tim Johnson wrote: [snip] > > IMHO: If one programs in more than one programming language, the > ultimate would be an editor/IDE that can accommodate all with similar > functionality and behavior for all. Maybe Eclipse (http://www.eclipse.org/)? There i

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-25 Thread Mike Hansen
> > > Activestate just released Komodo Edit and Komodo IDE. I > believe both do > > auto-completion that shows a list of possibilities. Komodo > Edit is free > > and Komodo IDE cost some $$. > > IMHO: If one programs in more than one programming language, the > ultimate would be an editor/ID

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-25 Thread Tim Johnson
On Thursday 25 January 2007 06:17 am, Mike Hansen wrote: > Someone mentioned that VIM 7 does this. You might need to pick up the > latest python.vim file from vim.org. Vim offers some intriguing possibilities for python: If you compile Vim from source, the python interpreter can be "compiled int

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-25 Thread Mike Hansen
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Shadab Sayani > Sent: Wednesday, January 24, 2007 8:12 PM > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python > > Hi, > I am using vim editor to code my p

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-25 Thread Hieu Hoang
On 1/25/07, OkaMthembo <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > hi guys, > > would someone please point me to an active link to download SPE? the url to > Stani's site just wont click through to > http://stani.be/python/spe/blog/ A while ago the SPE's author said something on python-list to the effect that he

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-25 Thread OkaMthembo
hi guys, would someone please point me to an active link to download SPE? the url to Stani's site just wont click through to http://stani.be/python/spe/blog/ i have a similar problem with the url to the Windows distro of Lighttpd from http://www.kevinworthington.com:8181/ would appreciate any h

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-25 Thread Hieu Hoang
Hi all, > -- Forwarded message -- > From: "Alan Gauld" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> [snip] > > Is there a good IDE where in I type the name of > > the class object and then dot then all the attributes > > of the object are displayed so on. > > There are several that do this but many ar

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-25 Thread Senthil_OR
Dick Moores wrote: >> Hi, >> I am using vim editor to code my project in python.Is there a good >> IDE where in I type the name of the class object and then dot then >> all the attributes of the object are displayed so on. > > I believe IPython does this. Check out >

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-25 Thread Alan Gauld
"Shadab Sayani" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote > I am using vim editor to code my project in python. Its not so much tthe editor that matters as the OS! Are you using Linux(I suspect) or Windows or MacOS? (Or something else!) > Is there a good IDE where in I type the name of > the class object a

Re: [Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-24 Thread Dick Moores
At 07:12 PM 1/24/2007, Shadab Sayani wrote: >Hi, >I am using vim editor to code my project in python.Is there a good >IDE where in I type the name of the class object and then dot then >all the attributes of the object are displayed so on. I believe IPython does this. Check out

[Tutor] Best IDE for Python

2007-01-24 Thread Shadab Sayani
Hi, I am using vim editor to code my project in python.Is there a good IDE where in I type the name of the class object and then dot then all the attributes of the object are displayed so on.I tried to install IDLE but I have no idea how to install tkinter? Any help that enables me to us