Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-06 Thread Alan Gauld
"Luke Paireepinart" wrote I agree, but I can see how some people don't like it. It's similar to the Java vs. C++ debate I guess, Java is forced OO and C++ is optional. While this is a genuine complaint for Java I have to be fair and say that Ruby does a good job of hiding its OOP purity w

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-06 Thread Luke Paireepinart
On Sun, Sep 6, 2009 at 10:21 AM, kevin parks wrote: > Well, the only thing more annoying than off topic discussion is "meta" > discussion on lists and folks passing judgement on other people's posts (ie. > you should have x, your should not have Y... I shouldn't have this second > doughnut, but y

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-06 Thread kevin parks
Well, the only thing more annoying than off topic discussion is "meta" discussion on lists and folks passing judgement on other people's posts (ie. you should have x, your should not have Y... I shouldn't have this second doughnut, but you know what, i am gonna eat that *and* have a second

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-05 Thread Luke Paireepinart
> ruby on the other is more 'implicit,' used more in web-apps (via ROR), > emphasizes code-readability/beauty, and is more flexible (i.e. has more than > one way of doing something). You mean people actually like ruby's syntax? I think Python's the prettiest language I've worked with syntacticall

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-05 Thread kevin parks
1. go to the book store 2. pull a copy of learning ruby by Michael Fitzgerald (ora.com) 3. pull a copy of learning python by Mark Lutz (ora.com) 4. read chapter 1 of each 5. make a decision 6. get to work Alternately check comp.lang.python where this question comes up over and over and over a

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-05 Thread Dan King
> I think you will get at the least a slight bias toward Python. However, > I think you should do your own research and reach your own conclusions. > Simply to get you started I put the following into Google: 'Python or > Ruby: Which to learn' and got more than 1M hits. > Best of luck. > Robert

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-04 Thread David Kim
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 06:18 -0700, dan06 wrote: > I'd like to learn a programming language - and I need help deciding between > python and ruby. I'm interesting in learning what are the difference, both > objective and subjective, between the two languages. I know this is a python > mailing list, s

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-04 Thread Dirk Wangsadirdja
Hi, I've never learned ruby, but from what I read, ruby is a pure OOP language, and if you are going to do a lot of web creation, then ruby on rails is a good one. What I can advice is, if you choose to stick with python, perhaps you shouldn't use python 3.x, but use python 2.5 (from what I

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-04 Thread bob gailer
dan06 wrote: I'd like to learn a programming language - and I need help deciding between python and ruby. I'm interesting in learning what are the difference, both objective and subjective, between the two languages. I know this is a python mailing list, so knowledge/experience with ruby may be l

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-04 Thread Alan Gauld
"dan06" wrote I'd like to learn a programming language - and I need help deciding between python and ruby. I'm interesting in learning what are the difference, There is lots of info on their web sites. asking a question like this is troll baiting in a big way, any debate about languages wil

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-04 Thread Robert Berman
I think you will get at the least a slight bias toward Python. However, I think you should do your own research and reach your own conclusions. Simply to get you started I put the following into Google: 'Python or Ruby: Which to learn' and got more than 1M hits. Best of luck. Robert On Fri, 200

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-04 Thread Mac Ryan
On Fri, 2009-09-04 at 06:18 -0700, dan06 wrote: > I'd like to learn a programming language - and I need help deciding between > python and ruby. I'm interesting in learning what are the difference, both > objective and subjective, between the two languages. I know this is a python > mailing list, s

Re: [Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-04 Thread Luke Paireepinart
A primary draw of Ruby has always been Ruby on Rails, a web framework. Python has a lot of really good web frameworks now, though, so this is less of a concern.When I tried to learn Ruby, the docs were terrible. The primary developers are Japanese, and the translations were very poor and incompl

[Tutor] Help deciding between python and ruby

2009-09-04 Thread dan06
I'd like to learn a programming language - and I need help deciding between python and ruby. I'm interesting in learning what are the difference, both objective and subjective, between the two languages. I know this is a python mailing list, so knowledge/experience with ruby may be limited - in wh