Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-28 Thread bhaaluu
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 12:13 PM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 07:18 AM 7/27/2008, bhaaluu wrote: > >> So if >> a student goes through PPftAB2E, and wants to continue programming games, >> I'd recommend "Game Programming" by Andy Harris [ISBN-13: >> 978-0-470-06822-9]. >> Game Progra

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-27 Thread Dick Moores
At 11:16 AM 7/27/2008, Danyelle Gragsone wrote: On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: At 04:09 AM 7/27/2008, Danyelle Gragsone wrote: Aren't those different books? than PPftAB? Your acronym has lost me, but _Programming Python for the Absolute Beginner_,

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-27 Thread Dick Moores
At 07:18 AM 7/27/2008, bhaaluu wrote: So if a student goes through PPftAB2E, and wants to continue programming games, I'd recommend "Game Programming" by Andy Harris [ISBN-13: 978-0-470-06822-9]. Game Programming is a fairly complete PyGame tutorial. What do you think of _Beginning Game Develo

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-27 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 7:54 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 04:09 AM 7/27/2008, Danyelle Gragsone wrote: > > Aren't those different books? than PPftAB? >> > > Your acronym has lost me, but _Programming Python for the Absolute > Beginner_, 2nd ed. is essentially the same book as t

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-27 Thread Dick Moores
At 04:09 AM 7/27/2008, Danyelle Gragsone wrote: Aren't those different books? than PPftAB? Your acronym has lost me, but _Programming Python for the Absolute Beginner_, 2nd ed. is essentially the same book as the much more expensive _Guide to Programming with Python_. Dick

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-27 Thread bhaaluu
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 3:33 AM, wesley chun <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > on a tangential note, i may be asked to teach a private course to > individuals who have never formally learned to program before, and i'm > participating in this thread for a number of reasons, including the > fact that i'

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-27 Thread Alan Gauld
"wesley chun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote oh, if there were only some other alternative for complete newbies to programmers... say, um, a 2nd edition of Learn to Program?!? (yeah, i keep teasing about this but i am kinda serious in some ways too [altho i'm aware of the work involved in such an

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-27 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 1:46 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 05:03 PM 7/26/2008, Alan Gauld wrote: > > "wesley chun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote >> >> from the 2nd review for this author's "other" Python book, it could be >>> some nefarious actions from the publisher itself... no w

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-27 Thread Dick Moores
At 05:03 PM 7/26/2008, Alan Gauld wrote: "wesley chun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote from the 2nd review for this author's "other" Python book, it could be some nefarious actions from the publisher itself... no wonder it's "out-of-print!" http://amazon.com/dp/1423901126 At $88 for 500 pages it

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-27 Thread wesley chun
> At $88 for 500 pages it had better be good or he will be stuxck > with academic-only sales! well, the other thing is that the 2nd review will really make ppl go back to the original title since it's $18 vs. $88 for the (apparently) same material, both academic and general sales. i can't imagine

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-26 Thread Alan Gauld
"wesley chun" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote from the 2nd review for this author's "other" Python book, it could be some nefarious actions from the publisher itself... no wonder it's "out-of-print!" http://amazon.com/dp/1423901126 At $88 for 500 pages it had better be good or he will be stuxck w

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-26 Thread wesley chun
On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 7:11 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 01:43 AM 7/26/2008, wesley chun wrote: >> >> > I have the first edition of Python Programming for the Absolute >> > Beginner. >> > Will this work instead of the 2nd edition? >> >> >> i just found out from bookpool today th

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-26 Thread Dick Moores
At 01:43 AM 7/26/2008, wesley chun wrote: > I have the first edition of Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner. > Will this work instead of the 2nd edition? i just found out from bookpool today that the 2nd edition is now also out-of-print. But:

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-26 Thread wesley chun
> I have the first edition of Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner. > Will this work instead of the 2nd edition? i just found out from bookpool today that the 2nd edition is now also out-of-print. does anyone know if a 3rd edition is being worked on? -- wesley - - - - - - - - - - - - - -

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-24 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
> > > You should be able to use the 1st edition of PPftAB to learn Python. > Pre-2.2 might have caused some minor problems, but 2.2 is okay. > > If you run into any problems, just post your problem code to the list, > with your platform info (GNU/Linux, Mac OS X, MS-Windows...) and > the version of

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-22 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
> > > Hi, > > I have the Second Edition of PPftAB, and it was published in 2006. > The version of Python used in PPftAB2E is Python 2.3.5. > I'm running Python 2.4.4 on Debian GNU/Linux. So far, no problems. > > The only problems I can see you having

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-21 Thread Alan Gauld
"Danyelle Gragsone" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote I have the first edition of Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner. Will this work instead of the 2nd edition? Python changes little and slowly between versions so the answer is almost certainly yes. New features are by definition major and

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-21 Thread Danyelle Gragsone
Hi, I have the first edition of Python Programming for the Absolute Beginner. Will this work instead of the 2nd edition? thanks, Danyelle ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/listinfo/tutor

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-21 Thread Dave Kuhlman
On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 09:17:51PM -0400, bhaaluu wrote: > > If you're disciplined enough to shell out $$$ for an online class > and do the work, why not just do it on your own? The tuition for > a class will buy you several very nice Python books: > > Learning Python. Lutz. > Programming Python.

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-20 Thread bhaaluu
Hiyas Steve, If you're disciplined enough to shell out $$$ for an online class and do the work, why not just do it on your own? The tuition for a class will buy you several very nice Python books: Learning Python. Lutz. Programming Python. Lutz Core Python. Wesley Chun. Python Programming for the

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-20 Thread Steve Poe
Joe, It's an online class without a specific time. The class runs for six weeks with two assignments per week. Steve On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 3:51 PM, Joe Bennett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What time where the classes? Web site seems to be missing that info... > > > -Joe > > > > On Sun, Jul 20

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-20 Thread Joe Bennett
What time where the classes? Web site seems to be missing that info... -Joe On Sun, Jul 20, 2008 at 1:08 AM, Dick Moores <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 02:45 PM 7/19/2008, David wrote: >> >> Steve Poe wrote: >>> >>> Anyone taken or know of any online classes >>> teaching Python? I know O'Reil

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-19 Thread Dick Moores
At 02:45 PM 7/19/2008, David wrote: Steve Poe wrote: Anyone taken or know of any online classes teaching Python? I know O'Reilly Press teaches online technical courses, through the University of Illinois, but no Python . Thanks. Steve ---

Re: [Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-19 Thread David
Steve Poe wrote: Anyone taken or know of any online classes teaching Python? I know O'Reilly Press teaches online technical courses, through the University of Illinois, but no Python . Thanks. Steve __

[Tutor] Online class/education for Python?

2008-07-19 Thread Steve Poe
Anyone taken or know of any online classes teaching Python? I know O'Reilly Press teaches online technical courses, through the University of Illinois, but no Python . Thanks. Steve ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org http://mail.python.org/mailman/