Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-06 Thread Cameron Simpson
Not a fix, but I for one always start at the index: https://docs.python.org/3/genindex.html (or the python 2 version) for ad hoc stuff. For speed and convenience I always have a fairly current copy of the docs on my desktop, making browsing them near instant. -- Each new user of a new syst

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-06 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 06/07/2014 21:57, Danny Yoo wrote: Let's summarize. As it stands, this really is out of our direct control, as Deb mentions. The actions we can do seems to be: 2. Direct feedback to the Python web site maintainers so that either they fix the problem or are at least aware that something

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-06 Thread Marc Tompkins
On Sun, Jul 6, 2014 at 1:57 PM, Danny Yoo wrote: > 2. Direct feedback to the Python web site maintainers so that either they fix the problem or are at least aware that something is deficient. Google offers a per-site custom search; it's free for very basic functionality and not very expensive

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-06 Thread Danny Yoo
Let's summarize. As it stands, this really is out of our direct control, as Deb mentions. The actions we can do seems to be: 1. To point folks to alternative search engines that are effective in searching through Python documentation. 2. Direct feedback to the Python web site maintainers

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-06 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 06/07/2014 19:08, memilanuk wrote: On 07/05/2014 11:53 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: As I said it's a known problem, but then so are the 4600 bugs at bugs.python.org. So why bother spending the time making the search useful when there is a well known workaround Because it's supposed to be the

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-06 Thread memilanuk
On 07/05/2014 11:53 AM, Mark Lawrence wrote: As I said it's a known problem, but then so are the 4600 bugs at bugs.python.org. So why bother spending the time making the search useful when there is a well known workaround Because it's supposed to be the first place new (and old) users go to

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-06 Thread Emile van Sebille
On 7/5/2014 11:40 AM, Deb Wyatt wrote: I'd be using a news reader if accessing news was still free. Try news.gmane.org. Emile ___ Tutor maillist - Tutor@python.org To unsubscribe or change subscription options: https://mail.python.org/mailman/lis

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-05 Thread Deb Wyatt
> -Original Message- > From: d...@hashcollision.org > Sent: Sat, 5 Jul 2014 14:26:36 -0700 > To: codemon...@inbox.com > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless? > >> I realize that this list doesn't have control over python.o

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-05 Thread Danny Yoo
> I realize that this list doesn't have control over python.org, but there are enough of you who are experts about all this stuff that maybe some changes can be made. If I ever learn enough, I hope to be part of the solution myself. A working search engine would be most helpful. Hi Deb, Yeah, u

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 05/07/2014 19:40, Deb Wyatt wrote: -Original Message- From: breamore...@yahoo.co.uk Sent: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 19:26:41 +0100 To: tutor@python.org Subject: Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless? On 05/07/2014 18:31, Deb Wyatt wrote: I am betting that a big

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-05 Thread Deb Wyatt
> -Original Message- > From: breamore...@yahoo.co.uk > Sent: Sat, 05 Jul 2014 19:26:41 +0100 > To: tutor@python.org > Subject: Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless? > > On 05/07/2014 18:31, Deb Wyatt wrote: >> I am betting that a

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-05 Thread Mark Lawrence
On 05/07/2014 18:31, Deb Wyatt wrote: I am betting that a big reason newbies don't go straight to documentation for answers is because of the useless quick search. You should be able to type 'dictionary' and get links to the dictionary info. You get a bunch of links that are meaningless to s

Re: [Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-05 Thread C Smith
I agree very much. I feel like I might have a learning disability when I try to reference the official Python docs for something that seems like it should be a very common task. On Sat, Jul 5, 2014 at 1:31 PM, Deb Wyatt wrote: > I am betting that a big reason newbies don't go straight to document

[Tutor] Why is Quick Search at docs.Python.org so useless?

2014-07-05 Thread Deb Wyatt
I am betting that a big reason newbies don't go straight to documentation for answers is because of the useless quick search. You should be able to type 'dictionary' and get links to the dictionary info. You get a bunch of links that are meaningless to someone who wants to learn about how to u