[TV orNotTV] Re: Quickie Review: Once Upon A Time

2011-10-24 Thread Michael
Jennifer Morrison: Hot indeed - and from my personal experience of her, sweet and genuine without a hint of diva about her. But, as much as I love Ms. Morrison on and off the screen, it's hard to tear my eyes away from Ginnifer Goodwin's ears when she's in that super-short hairdo. Whoa Nellie. On

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Joe Posnaski on Tim McCarver

2011-10-24 Thread PGage
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:57 PM, Joe Hass wrote: > I think Buck appears knowledgable, isn't offensive, and basically > doesn't challenge the status quo at all. McCarver's still there > because Fox is too damn lazy to fire him. > > This, at its core, is the conflict that has engulfed sports as a w

Re: [TV orNotTV] WSJ: NBC's not getting better

2011-10-24 Thread PGage
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:42 PM, Joe Hass wrote: > Freeing the following from the WSJ pay wall. Money quote: > > "No network has ever been as far behind financially as NBC is," Steve > Burke, chief executive of NBCUniversal, said at an analyst conference > last month. "But if we can turn the rati

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "The Wash" on Fox

2011-10-24 Thread PGage
On Sun, Oct 23, 2011 at 7:53 PM, Michael wrote: > Which reminds me, it's always the right time to repeat a major sports- > broadcasting truism: Joe Buck is Joe Suck. > I will give Buck credit for one thing - calling out the celebs his own network pimps out to promo the primetime schedule for not

Re: [TV orNotTV] Scientologists Send PIs After 'South Park' Creators, Staff

2011-10-24 Thread Kevin M.
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:27 PM, David Bruggeman wrote: > Isn't Scientology about 5-6 years too late?  I'm not obsessive about the > show, but I think they were pretty much done with targeting Scientology > after they killed off Chef. Scientologists never forget. Walk into the big Scientology cen

Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Once Upon A Time

2011-10-24 Thread Kevin M.
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 6:20 PM, Jon Delfin wrote: > Well, maybe a little bit more. > > Jennifer Morrison is hot, the "real world" Ginnifer Goodwin has a > really awful haircut, and I'm very nervous about the prospects of this > show in the network model of open-endedness. I have learned the hard

Re: [TV orNotTV] Scientologists Send PIs After 'South Park' Creators, Staff

2011-10-24 Thread David Bruggeman
Isn't Scientology about 5-6 years too late?  I'm not obsessive about the show, but I think they were pretty much done with targeting Scientology after they killed off Chef. David From: Joe Coughlin To: tvornottv@googlegroups.com Sent: Monday, October 24, 2011

Re: [TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Once Upon A Time

2011-10-24 Thread Jon Delfin
Well, maybe a little bit more. Jennifer Morrison is hot, the "real world" Ginnifer Goodwin has a really awful haircut, and I'm very nervous about the prospects of this show in the network model of open-endedness. I have learned the hard way to have very little faith in high-concept shows that woul

Re: [TV orNotTV] Scientologists Send PIs After 'South Park' Creators, Staff

2011-10-24 Thread Joe Coughlin
They do it with all big time "SPs" or "Suppressive People". On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:45 PM, Kevin M. wrote: > To what end? It isn't exactly a secret that although Trey and Matt are > talented, they are -- respectively -- a horse's ass and a dickweed. At > best, a private eye would only uncover

[TV orNotTV] Quickie Review: Once Upon A Time

2011-10-24 Thread Kevin M.
Jennifer Morrison is hot. Thank you. That is all. -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this group, send email to tvornottv@googlegroups.com To unsubscribe fro

[TV orNotTV] Re: Joe Posnaski on Tim McCarver

2011-10-24 Thread Dave Sikula
I think that was JoePo's point; that McCarver has the potential to be a great analyst who can teach as well as give valuable background/ inside info (and has in the past), but that he's gotten lazy and the game has passed him by in some aspects. --Dave Sikula On Oct 24, 5:16 pm, donz5 wrote: > I

[TV orNotTV] Re: Joe Posnaski on Tim McCarver

2011-10-24 Thread donz5
I thought McCarver was a great color guy when he was announcing for the Mets. He wasn't shy confronting elements of the team's imperfections. I'd like to see that guy back with Fox. -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google G

Re: [TV orNotTV] The World Series beats Sunday Night Football in the ratings

2011-10-24 Thread Joe Hass
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 7:08 PM, David Lynch wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 19:06, Joe Hass wrote: >> >> On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Brad Beam wrote: >> > >> > With the stadia a 20-minute walk apart, hopefully tacticians were on >> > hand to >> > get 50,000 baseball fans in before 80,000

Re: [TV orNotTV] The World Series beats Sunday Night Football in the ratings

2011-10-24 Thread David Lynch
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 19:06, Joe Hass wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Brad Beam wrote: > > > > With the stadia a 20-minute walk apart, hopefully tacticians were on hand > to > > get 50,000 baseball fans in before 80,000 football fans left. > > Fortunately, the Cowboys game was a noon

Re: [TV orNotTV] The World Series beats Sunday Night Football in the ratings

2011-10-24 Thread Joe Hass
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:02 PM, Brad Beam wrote: > > With the stadia a 20-minute walk apart, hopefully tacticians were on hand to > get 50,000 baseball fans in before 80,000 football fans left. Fortunately, the Cowboys game was a noon start, so they caught that break. -- TV or Not TV The

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Joe Posnaski on Tim McCarver

2011-10-24 Thread Joe Hass
I think Buck appears knowledgable, isn't offensive, and basically doesn't challenge the status quo at all. McCarver's still there because Fox is too damn lazy to fire him. This, at its core, is the conflict that has engulfed sports as a whole for the past 20 years. The big money is in the casual f

[TV orNotTV] Re: Joe Posnaski on Tim McCarver

2011-10-24 Thread Dave Sikula
Speaking as someone who as never liked either Madden or McCarver, I heartily concur. Your second paragraph makes me wonder what the target demo is, especially for the World Series. 18-25s? Women? Men 35-50? I don't see what the appeal for any of those groups is from the likes of McCarver, Vitale,

Re: [TV orNotTV] Scientologists Send PIs After 'South Park' Creators, Staff

2011-10-24 Thread Kevin M.
To what end? It isn't exactly a secret that although Trey and Matt are talented, they are -- respectively -- a horse's ass and a dickweed. At best, a private eye would only uncover evidence to support that which is already widely known, like -- for example -- that they hang with John Stamos. Stop t

[TV orNotTV] WSJ: NBC's not getting better

2011-10-24 Thread Joe Hass
Freeing the following from the WSJ pay wall. Money quote: "No network has ever been as far behind financially as NBC is," Steve Burke, chief executive of NBCUniversal, said at an analyst conference last month. "But if we can turn the ratings," he said, "you can imagine hundreds of millions of doll

[TV orNotTV] Re: Carriage wars are back

2011-10-24 Thread Bob in Jersey
TheWrap: And Fox takes out full-pagers in the LAT mentioning not only the impending disappearance of the RSNs, Speed, NatGeo et al, but at the end of the year, the OTA channels as well: http://goo.gl/Hy9DY -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message becaus

Re: [TV orNotTV] There are bad quarters. And then there's Netflix

2011-10-24 Thread Kevin M.
It couldn't have happened to a nicer company. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:49 PM, Joe Hass wrote: > Netflix announced an even worse quarter than the worst expectations > were, losing about 800,000 subscribers in Q3 (they projected 600K). > > The stock closed at $118.84, before the announcement. As o

[TV orNotTV] Scientologists Send PIs After 'South Park' Creators, Staff

2011-10-24 Thread Mark J.
According to findings of former Church of Scientology higher-up Marty Rathbun as reported by the Village Voice, the organization has been sending private investigators after "South Park" creators Matt Parker and Trey Stone, several staff members and Comedy Central exec Doug Herzog as seeming retali

[TV orNotTV] There are bad quarters. And then there's Netflix

2011-10-24 Thread Joe Hass
Netflix announced an even worse quarter than the worst expectations were, losing about 800,000 subscribers in Q3 (they projected 600K). The stock closed at $118.84, before the announcement. As of 6:49 PM ET, it is now trading on the after-hours market at $86.75, down about 27%. On July 13, it clos

Re: [TV orNotTV] Semi-TV: Monaco on the Hudson

2011-10-24 Thread Joe Hass
I really, really don't know what to make of this. This is a country that has struggled to support a single F1 race and whose TV contact only puts it on OTA television for four of the 19 rounds a year (and three of those are [expletive-deleted] tape delay). Austin hasn't even had it's first race yet

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Joe Posnaski on Tim McCarver

2011-10-24 Thread Joe Hass
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 4:59 PM, Tom Wolper wrote: > On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Joe Coughlin wrote: >> Does anyone have that strong a feeling about him positively? I'd say at most >> people are indifferent to or think he's not bad. >> He has very few opportunities to show off his personalit

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Joe Posnaski on Tim McCarver

2011-10-24 Thread Tom Wolper
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 5:11 PM, Joe Coughlin wrote: > Does anyone have that strong a feeling about him positively? I'd say at most > people are indifferent to or think he's not bad. > He has very few opportunities to show off his personality whereas Boomer and > Costas do it all the time. I neve

[TV orNotTV] Semi-TV: Monaco on the Hudson

2011-10-24 Thread Bob in Jersey
Formula 1, not really known for racing in the States, will reportedly announce a street-course race for 2013 right around the area of the Lincoln Tunnel NJ-side: http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/2011/10/sources_formula_1_racing_tour.html The sanction has fat TV deals, or at least they started out

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: Joe Posnaski on Tim McCarver

2011-10-24 Thread Joe Coughlin
Does anyone have that strong a feeling about him positively? I'd say at most people are indifferent to or think he's not bad. He has very few opportunities to show off his personality whereas Boomer and Costas do it all the time. On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 3:50 PM, Mark J. wrote: > > > On Oct 24,

Re: [TV orNotTV] The World Series beats Sunday Night Football in the ratings

2011-10-24 Thread Brad Beam
- Original Message - From: "Tom Wolper" It's just something I wondered about, seeing as SNF has been a reliable winner for NBC each week. Since the world series isn't featuring teams from markets FOX would like to see and the NFL game wasn't the least bit compelling, I wanted to see wh

[TV orNotTV] Re: "The Wash" on Fox

2011-10-24 Thread Michael
It's probably just me, but Ron Washington reminds me a bit of Jimmie "JJ" Walker. Whenever Washington gets excited by something, it's like I can hear "Dy-no-mite!" in my head. For the record, this all started when my mighty Giants triumphed over the Bush Rangers in last year's World Series, and Was

Re: [TV orNotTV] The World Series beats Sunday Night Football in the ratings

2011-10-24 Thread David Risner
It wasn't like Sunday Night Football was full of drama. I think New Orleans only had to punt once. I guess the biggest drama was when they would finally take Drew Brees out. -- David Risner On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 12:52 PM, Tom Wolper wrote: > It's just something I wondered about, seeing as S

[TV orNotTV] The World Series beats Sunday Night Football in the ratings

2011-10-24 Thread Tom Wolper
It's just something I wondered about, seeing as SNF has been a reliable winner for NBC each week. Since the world series isn't featuring teams from markets FOX would like to see and the NFL game wasn't the least bit compelling, I wanted to see which one got more viewers. http://tvbythenumbers.zap2

[TV orNotTV] Re: Joe Posnaski on Tim McCarver

2011-10-24 Thread Mark J.
On Oct 24, 2:37 pm, Tom Wolper wrote: > That was a good article (or post, or whatever). His problem with > McCarver is the one I had with Madden in Madden's last years as color > commentator. Which leads me to Buck. Despite the fact that everyone seems to hate him, is the reason Fox holds on t

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: "The Wash" on Fox

2011-10-24 Thread Tom Wolper
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 2:17 PM, Dave Sikula wrote: > Not having watched much of this year's series and (being a Dodger fan) > utterly ignoring last year's tragedy, I have no idea what "The Wash" > is. Something to do with Ron Washington impersonators? Can you > elaborate? It's based on Washingto

Re: [TV orNotTV] Joe Posnaski on Tim McCarver

2011-10-24 Thread Tom Wolper
On Mon, Oct 24, 2011 at 1:32 PM, Joe Hass wrote: > "And one of the sad truths is that sports color commentary tends to > have an expiration date (and, I’ll admit, sportswriting often does > too). There comes a time when everyone has heard the stories, when the > insights have become cliches, when

[TV orNotTV] Re: "The Wash" on Fox

2011-10-24 Thread Dave Sikula
Not having watched much of this year's series and (being a Dodger fan) utterly ignoring last year's tragedy, I have no idea what "The Wash" is. Something to do with Ron Washington impersonators? Can you elaborate? And, yes, as badly as Buck and McCarver suck, the radio is no decent alternative. Bo

[TV orNotTV] Joe Posnaski on Tim McCarver

2011-10-24 Thread Joe Hass
"And one of the sad truths is that sports color commentary tends to have an expiration date (and, I’ll admit, sportswriting often does too). There comes a time when everyone has heard the stories, when the insights have become cliches, when the game just changes on you. And if we’re being realistic

[TV orNotTV] Amazon TV Deal of the Week: "Walking Dead: Season 1"

2011-10-24 Thread Tom Wolper
Amazon TV Deal of the WEEK: "Walking Dead: Season 1" - $14.69 DVD; $20.49 BLU-RAY (59%-63% off); THRU OCT. 29TH! tinyurl.com/3nulwuj -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not TV" group. To post to this grou

[TV orNotTV] NotTV: NPR Host's Huby Working for Obama, She's Taking Hiatus

2011-10-24 Thread Mark J.
"All Things Considered" host Michele Norris (the one the far left doesn't hate with a passion--that would be Robert Siegel) is taking time off from the program while husband Broderick Johnson works for the re-election of President Obama (oh, good God, that won't shut the wingnuts up): http://www.n

[TV orNotTV] LAT talks w/Chevy Chase

2011-10-24 Thread Bob in Jersey
About, f'rinstance, what makes him laugh... two certain late-night hosts won't be happy: http://www.latimes.com/entertainment/news/la-ca-conversation-20111023,0,3096406.story -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Goog

[TV orNotTV] Rupert Boneham to run for office

2011-10-24 Thread Bob in Jersey
The "Survivor" fave intends to seek the Libertarian Party nod for Indiana governor... http://tv.yahoo.com/news/survivor-fan-favorite-run-ind-governor-213124602.html -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups

[TV orNotTV] Aisha Tyler to "Talk"

2011-10-24 Thread Bob in Jersey
The former "Talk Soup" host and LLS fill-in joins Chenbot, SHARON! et al. today... http://www.deadline.com/2011/10/aisha-tyler-joins-the-talk-as-co-host/ -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "TV or Not

[TV orNotTV] More of NBC moving to Stamford

2011-10-24 Thread Bob in Jersey
AP: Versus/NBCSN and several talk shows are already there, and the rest of NBC Sports will ostensibly join them, but I would guess Football Night would want to keep whatever thing they still have inside Da Rock... http://goo.gl/RnkBA -- BOB -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV) People! You r

[TV orNotTV] Re: Prime access (was Corwin Dies)

2011-10-24 Thread Mark J.
On Oct 21, 6:08 am, JW wrote: > Pittsburgh, of course, was a Westinghouse market for as long as there > was a Westinghouse. Using the Google news archive to look at listings > for the first three years of prime access (using the first Sunday > Pittsburgh Press I found in January 1972, 1973, and