[TV orNotTV] Olympics VOD

This wasn't available via my cable operator when the Olympics started, but there are now many Video On Demand Olympics offerings.  I'll catch up on the part of the Opening Ceremonies I missed sometime this weekend.  As my TV has better resolution than my computer, I am a bit pleased at this.  I

Re: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:10 PM, Darren Glass wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 4:49 PM, PGage wrote: > >> >> You had asked me why I am critical of ex post facto commentary; I have >> given a couple of reasons, one of which I thought might resonate with you, >> since you had stated that you wer

Re: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 4:49 PM, PGage wrote: > > You had asked me why I am critical of ex post facto commentary; I have > given a couple of reasons, one of which I thought might resonate with you, > since you had stated that you were irritated by spoilers. When NBC has done > ex post facto commen

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's Olympic blunders...

- Original Message - From: "Tom Wolper" Cool. I guess as long as NBC Sports shows the games live and not on tape delay. Looking at the schedule, it looks like NBCSN will tape-delay a conference semifinal and conference final -- most likely the West, which would start after the East

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's Olympic blunders...

The SportsCentre theme is mostly the same, but not exactly. (The show is actually funny when it wants to be, as well, more so than its trying-too-hard American cousin.) The CFL theme, though, is completely different. TSN did, however, scoop up the rights to the Hockey Night in Canada theme a f

Re: [TV orNotTV] Fallon wants Oscar host job...

...ABC late-night was reruns of "Charlie's Angels." And I remain amazed at how automatic the Drudgies come in with their fecal matter. Do they think that if they whine loud enough ABC will bring back Lawrence Welk reruns and put on "The Toby Keith Show?" Can't they be satisfied with Tim Allen ba

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's Olympic blunders...

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 6:05 PM, Brad Beam wrote: > - Original Message - From: "Tom Wolper" > >> I can't understand why NBC doesn't follow that model and as a result I >> will rather watch a CFL game on ESPN 3 rather than the Olympics on NBC. > > > Then you'll appreciate the irony that the

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's Olympic blunders...

For added irony--since TSN has a connection with ESPN through minority interest by Disney (all that's allowed of foreign businesses in Canada) that allows them access to ESPN programs, a similar logo and their nightly studio show called "SportsCentre" (with the same logo and I assume a similar set

Re: [TV orNotTV] Fallon wants Oscar host job...

- Original Message - From: Bob in Jersey ...and despite that he obviously doesn't work for the network that carries it, and with Lorne as producer, doesn't look to be much their brass can do about it... Yet, Johnny Carson hosted the Oscars several times on ABC way back when _ _

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's Olympic blunders...

- Original Message - From: "Tom Wolper" I can't understand why NBC doesn't follow that model and as a result I will rather watch a CFL game on ESPN 3 rather than the Olympics on NBC. Then you'll appreciate the irony that the NBC Sports Network will be carrying the CFL via the TSN fe

Re: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:30 PM, Darren Glass wrote: > > >> Your position is not just intellectually inconsistent, it is practically >> inconsistent, in the terms that you identify as important to you - namely >> spoilers. >> > > I don't really understand what you mean by this. All I am saying is

Re: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 11:57 AM, wrote: > "But, I would say the much more likely reason is because, as you're > pointing out (to a degree that is making me even start wondering the > meta-question of why is it necessary to point out so vehemently why it > matters that the commentary be live...but

Re: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:24 PM, PGage wrote: > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Darren Glass wrote: > >> >> >> And I think right here is the crux of the problem, and the reason why I >> am willing to give NBC far more credit than many people seem to. There are >> some viewers who want to view sp

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC's Olympic blunders...

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:53 PM, Jon Delfin wrote: > This is only a grade-B screw-up: USA ran "Mission Impossible II" but > the program info said it was "Mission Impossible III." Showing ANY Mission Impossible movie is a grade-A screw-up -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (TV

[TV orNotTV] Why is CBS losing money? Frasier has left the building

So claimed the company reps when asked to explain why profits were down. They said syndication of Frasier wasn't bringing in the cash the way it used to. http://www.businessinsider.com/cbs-blames-sliding-revenues-on-frasier-amazon-and-netflix-2012-8 -- Kevin M. (RPCV) -- TV or Not TV The

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC's Olympic blunders...

This is only a grade-B screw-up: USA ran "Mission Impossible II" but the program info said it was "Mission Impossible III." On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 3:42 PM, Joe Hass wrote: > Today's grade A screw-up: while showing Japan-Brazil womens soccer > match, NBC decided to cut away to a commercial, only

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC's Olympic blunders...

Today's grade A screw-up: while showing Japan-Brazil womens soccer match, NBC decided to cut away to a commercial, only to miss a killer goal. Seriously? Cutting away mid-match in the middle for commercials? Has no one at NBC seen how to cover a soccer match since about 1986? http://deadspin.com/

[TV orNotTV] Re: NBC buys "'West Wing' at the U.N."

On Friday, August 3, 2012 1:20:53 PM UTC-4, Bob in Jersey wrote: > > A script commitment was given to a Walter Parkes/Laurie Macdonald project > written by Tom Brady (*Hell on Wheels*) which "follows an interpreter at > the international organization’s New York HQ working with ambassadors and

[TV orNotTV] Comin in Oct.--Cartoon Night on TCM

A lot of rare stuff, including both of Max Fleischer's features and some restored UPA classics from the 50s, with Cartoon Brew's Jerry Beck joining Robert Osborne on Sun. Oct. 21: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/events/october-21st-classic-animation-on-tcm.html -- TV or Not TV The Smartest (T

RE: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

"But, I would say the much more likely reason is because, as you're pointing out (to a degree that is making me even start wondering the meta-question of why is it necessary to point out so vehemently why it matters that the commentary be live...but that's a different topic altogether), there *are*

RE: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

One possibility is because they honestly feel (as I do) that it really doesn't make a difference.  So, by definition, they can announce that or they don't...and it doesn't make a difference, either way.  Why don't they announce it, then?  *shrug*  Because it doesn't make a difference.  But, I would

Re: [TV orNotTV] NBC buys "'West Wing' at the U.N."

Huh, so Studio 60 keeps giving back, eh? On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:20 PM, Bob in Jersey wrote: > A script commitment was given to a Walter Parkes/Laurie Macdonald project > written by Tom Brady (*Hell on Wheels*) which "follows an interpreter at > the international organization’s New York HQ work

Re: [TV orNotTV] Fallon wants Oscar host job...

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 1:11 PM, Bob in Jersey wrote: > ...and despite that he obviously doesn't work for the network that carries > it, and with Lorne as producer, doesn't look to be much their brass can do > about it... If ABC doesn't want it, no way it's going to happen. They may not have veto

Re: [TV orNotTV] Brave, Hungry Olympic Games

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 10:16 AM, Bob in Jersey wrote: > > PGage: > >> One of the best events of the Olympics has been the archery. I don't >> think I am being influenced by the two recent films featuring bows and >> arrows, as I am neither a 16 year old, nor a 6 year old girl. I think what >> is m

Re: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:48 AM, Darren Glass wrote: > > > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:36 PM, wrote: > >> Okay. You and Joe take your sports commentary *way* more seriously than >> I ever have. :) >> >> I see your point, but I think this is gonna be one of those "we'll have >> to agree to disagre

[TV orNotTV] NBC buys "'West Wing' at the U.N."

A script commitment was given to a Walter Parkes/Laurie Macdonald project written by Tom Brady (*Hell on Wheels*) which "follows an interpreter at the international organization’s New York HQ working with ambassadors and politicians from various countries..." Deadline

Re: [TV orNotTV] Brave, Hungry Olympic Games

PGage: > > One of the best events of the Olympics has been the archery. I don't think > I am being influenced by the two recent films featuring bows and arrows, as > I am neither a 16 year old, nor a 6 year old girl. I think what is making > it particularly compelling is the (I believe) new sco

[TV orNotTV] Fallon wants Oscar host job...

...and despite that he obviously doesn't work for the network that carries it, and with Lorne as producer, doesn't look to be much their brass can do about it... LA Times

[TV orNotTV] Mr "I see dead people" signs deal for Syfy series

M. Night Shyamalan (his first scripted TV show), along with onetime *Buffy*co-exec Marti Noxon, are behind *Proof*, about an orphaned son of a billionaire seeking those who will help him verify the existence of life after death... THR

Re: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 9:36 AM, wrote: > Okay. You and Joe take your sports commentary *way* more seriously than I > ever have. :) > > I see your point, but I think this is gonna be one of those "we'll have to > agree to disagree" moments. If I know the broadcast is tape delayed, it > wouldn't

Re: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 12:36 PM, wrote: > Okay. You and Joe take your sports commentary *way* more seriously than I > ever have. :) > > I see your point, but I think this is gonna be one of those "we'll have to > agree to disagree" moments. If I know the broadcast is tape delayed, it > wouldn'

RE: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

Okay.  You and Joe take your sports commentary *way* more seriously than I ever have.  :)I see your point, but I think this is gonna be one of those "we'll have to agree to disagree" moments.  If I know the broadcast is tape delayed, it wouldn't bother me a whit if the commentary was recorded live

Re: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 8:49 AM, wrote: > But why is this odious if it's completely invisible to the end user? (for > that matter, why is it odious even if it *is* obvious to the end user?) > You have video of a sporting event and you audio of commentators adding > play-by-play and color. As lo

Re: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

Because the commentator is playing with information that was unknown at the time the event took place. An outstanding example: the end of the EPL season this year. For the unaware, there were two matches that would determine who would win the league title. In one match, Manchester City was down 2-

RE: [TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

But why is this odious if it's completely invisible to the end user?  (for that matter, why is it odious even if it *is* obvious to the end user?)  You have video of a sporting event and you audio of commentators adding play-by-play and color.  As long as they arrive on your TV screen simultaneousl

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's Olympic blunders...

Tunnel Bear and the BBC are your friend, people of the US. On 8/3/12, Tom Wolper wrote: > On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 5:05 AM, PGage wrote: >> >> Does NBC seriously expect us to believe that they cut the most important >> performances from what must be one of the top 3 or 4 nights from their >> entir

[TV orNotTV] Online Olympics

Correcting some misinformation I have been spreading in previous posts, it is *not* true that all of the online events are sans commentary. I had originally thought that because the first 2 or 3 I watched had only ambient sound. Subsequently I have seen some that did have only ambient sound, but in

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's Olympic blunders...

On Fri, Aug 3, 2012 at 5:05 AM, PGage wrote: > > Does NBC seriously expect us to believe that they cut the most important > performances from what must be one of the top 3 or 4 nights from their > entire, multimillion dollar Olympics package for time? They could not find 2 > minutes to televise th

Re: [TV orNotTV] Pupp--Writers Room Blown Out at 'Newsroom'

On Aug 2, 2012, at 10:38 PM, Bob in Jersey wrote: > Sorkin denied the above to the NY DN, in part: > ... > "He did say, however, that he is hiring a team of 'paid consultants' to work > with him and the writing staff for the second season. > > "They could provide anything from policy insight to

Re: [TV orNotTV] Re: NBC's Olympic blunders...

Here is a nice, Grade A slice of 100% fresh bullshit from NBC about their bastardized coverage of the Girls Gymnastics the other day: http://www.deadline.com/2012/08/nbc-sports-summer-olympics-coverage-criticism-gymnastics-misssy-franklin/ The money quote: "Asked about NBC editing out