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Subject: [TV orNotTV] Re: President Bush's version of "Christmas Shoes"
Thanks for posting that -- unaired footage that might have been lost.
This is now off-topic, but I
Thanks for posting that -- unaired footage that might have been lost.
This is now off-topic, but I've been to DC twice for conferences at the
Hilton, and have always been intrigued that the site of the assassination
attempt hasn't been marked in some way by either the hotel or another
group.
Chr
Leno is calling the reporter a "shoe-aside bomber."
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On Dec 17, 2008, at 2:13 PM, PGage wrote:
> BTW, The Progressive is suggesting a more appropriate way to register
> disrespect for still President Bush: http://www.progressive.org/ (I
> have an old pair that will be going in the mail tomorrow).
the problem with this is that the most insulated pr
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 3:33 PM, Tom Wolper wrote:
> Last point: competent security people, Secret Service or not, are not
> going to open fire into a crowd of people. The exception is if there
> is a clear assailant and he is putting another person in immediate
> danger. You would be surprised h
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 2:30 PM, PGage wrote:
>
> Protecting the President is difficulty, made more so because
> Presidents want to appear brave and in control. The Secret Service
> always has to take into account what are essentially PR considerations
> in addition to purely security considerati
On Tue, Dec 16, 2008 at 6:11 AM, Joe Hass wrote:
> If you watch the video, you do see one person in a suit go up to Bush,
> and Bush gives him a gentle hand push as if to say "I'm okay."
I have seen the video now on television several times, and I did see
the suit make a move for Bush and get th
On Dec 15, 2008, at 9:29 AM, Wrecks wrote:
> I'm surprised that nobody is talking about the insult of this act. In
> that corner of our world, being hit by a shoe is considered the
> ultimate affront. Worse than being damned to Hell.
>
> Of course Bush would have to comprehend the culture in or
If you watch the video, you do see one person in a suit go up to Bush,
and Bush gives him a gentle hand push as if to say "I'm okay."
My two cents: During the presidential campaign, McCain stayed in the
same hotel I did. A lot of his staffers were on the same floor I was,
so there were agents on
.357 sig actually!
On 12/15/08, pbrownpbr...@gmail.com wrote:
>
> The other factor to consider is that I'm sure the Secret Service is
> trained to considered the totality of risk in the room in the case of
> a real, more coordinated attack. One person throwing shoes could be a
> distraction while
The other factor to consider is that I'm sure the Secret Service is
trained to considered the totality of risk in the room in the case of
a real, more coordinated attack. One person throwing shoes could be a
distraction while someone else attacks Bush is some other way. They
were probably convince
>> Is it too early to start thinking about a single shoe theory?
>
> Curse you, Heather Mills!
So I'm sitting at a bar in Guadalajara
In walks a guy with a faraway look in his eyes
He said "I've got as powerful horse outside
Climb on the back, Ill take you for a ride
I know a little place, we ca
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From: "Melissa Neal"
> Is it too early to start thinking about a single shoe theory?
Curse you, Heather Mills!
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 1:06 PM, Ed Dravecky wrote:
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> Melissa Neal wrote:
>> Is it too early to start thinking about a single shoe theory?
>
> The authorities have tapes of noted shoe promoter and object hurler
> Miche-al Jordan exhorting his followers to "just do it".
There is another theory
Melissa Neal wrote:
> Is it too early to start thinking about a single shoe theory?
The authorities have tapes of noted shoe promoter and object hurler
Miche-al Jordan exhorting his followers to "just do it".
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On Mon, Dec 15, 2008 at 6:29 AM, Wrecks wrote:
>
> I'm surprised that nobody is talking about the insult of this act. In
> that corner of our world, being hit by a shoe is considered the
> ultimate affront. Worse than being damned to Hell.
>
> Of course Bush would have to comprehend the culture
Kevin M., to PGage:
> I think it might have been a slight overreaction had Secret Service
> agents pumped Shoeless Joe Iraqi full of lead. They are trained to
> react to serious threats, not wingnuts. My guess is that reporters are
> carefully screened to determine no actual weapons are found, so
I'm surprised that nobody is talking about the insult of this act. In
that corner of our world, being hit by a shoe is considered the
ultimate affront. Worse than being damned to Hell.
Of course Bush would have to comprehend the culture in order to
actually be insulted.
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On Dec 14, 2008, at 11:32 PM, PGage wrote:
> All I am saying is that I am surprised that the guy was able to get
> off the second shot - and from what I have seen (still just the MSNBC
> clip that Kevin posted here) it looked like it was other reporters who
> got to the guy, and the main officia
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:04 PM, Tom Wolper wrote:
> A security detail can't provide 100% protection without taking
> removing access altogether. The best they can do is to reduce the
> risk. Would you consider the risk acceptable if the person you're
> guarding is in a small room with a small nu
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 9:22 PM, PGage wrote:
>
> Well, with the irony removed, I agree it would have been a slight
> overreaction - but only slight. After all, it could have been anything
> that guy was throwing. Perhaps they are so confident in their
> screening procedures that they knew it was
On Dec 14, 6:22 pm, PGage wrote:
> I don't think it is a bad idea to have a firmly established rule:
> "Don't throw shit at the President".
Even a president who has shoveled shit on the rest of us?
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On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 6:10 PM, Kevin M. wrote:
> I think it might have been a slight overreaction had Secret Service
> agents pumped Shoeless Joe Iraqi full of lead. They are trained to
> react to serious threats, not wingnuts. My guess is that reporters are
> carefully screened to determine no
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 2:38 PM, PGage wrote:
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Kevin M. wrote:
>>
>> If President Bush had been quick witted, he should have said, "Those
>> are nice, but can you show me something with a little more arch
>> support?"
>>
>> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540
I have looked but not found details about the President's security
arrangements when he travels in a war zone. The Secret Service is
responsible for his protection even when he travels abroad - but when
he goes to a war zone, I assume they must collaborate with the Defense
Department; it is possib
> > If President Bush had been quick witted, he should have said, "Those
> > are nice, but can you show me something with a little more arch
> > support?"
> >
> > http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28223089#28223089
>
> I have been watching football today and did
Somebody is flying home as a civilian.
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 5:38 PM, PGage wrote:
>
> On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Kevin M.
> wrote:
> >
> > If President Bush had been quick witted, he should have said, "Those
> > are nice, but can you show me something with a little more arch
> > suppor
On Sun, Dec 14, 2008 at 1:53 PM, Kevin M. wrote:
>
> If President Bush had been quick witted, he should have said, "Those
> are nice, but can you show me something with a little more arch
> support?"
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28223089#28223089
I have been watching football toda
> If President Bush had been quick witted, he should have said, "Those
> are nice, but can you show me something with a little more arch
> support?"
>
> http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/28223089#28223089
He was quick witted enough to say they were a size 10 -- too bad he didn't
get a cha
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