Re: [Twisted-Python] AutobahnPython 0.6.3 - WebSocket compression and more

2013-10-06 Thread Glyph
> On Oct 6, 2013, at 5:23 PM, exar...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: > > On 6 Oct, 11:02 pm, tobias.oberst...@tavendo.de wrote: Personally, I assume root CA private keys of any CA vendor are owned by the NSA anyway. >>> >>> There's no rule that says you have to use a "root CA" signed certif

Re: [Twisted-Python] AutobahnPython 0.6.3 - WebSocket compression and more

2013-10-06 Thread exarkun
On 6 Oct, 11:02 pm, tobias.oberst...@tavendo.de wrote: Personally, I assume root CA private keys of any CA vendor are owned by the NSA anyway. There's no rule that says you have to use a "root CA" signed certificate for your TLS connections. Sure, in theory, but there are multiple practica

Re: [Twisted-Python] AutobahnPython 0.6.3 - WebSocket compression and more

2013-10-06 Thread Tobias Oberstein
>> Personally, I assume root CA private keys of any CA vendor are owned by >> the NSA anyway. > > There's no rule that says you have to use a "root CA" signed certificate > for your TLS connections. Sure, in theory, but there are multiple practical problems when using self-signed certs or certs s

Re: [Twisted-Python] AutobahnPython 0.6.3 - WebSocket compression and more

2013-10-06 Thread exarkun
On 02:51 pm, tobias.oberst...@tavendo.de wrote: .. , since I like compression but I also send credentials over TLS :) IMHO, credentials should never be sent over the wire (be it encrypted or not) and never be stored in plaintext. FWIW, Autobahn provides a challenge-response authentication sc

Re: [Twisted-Python] AutobahnPython 0.6.3 - WebSocket compression and more

2013-10-06 Thread Tobias Oberstein
>.. , since I like compression but I also send credentials over TLS :) IMHO, credentials should never be sent over the wire (be it encrypted or not) and never be stored in plaintext. FWIW, Autobahn provides a challenge-response authentication scheme ("WAMP_CRA") that also allows for salted/hash

Re: [Twisted-Python] AutobahnPython 0.6.3 - WebSocket compression and more

2013-10-06 Thread exarkun
On 5 Oct, 02:24 pm, tobias.oberst...@tavendo.de wrote: Hi, AutobahnPython 0.6.3 was just released to PyPi https://pypi.python.org/pypi/autobahn with lots of new features, including _WebSocket compression_, an upcoming extension to the WebSocket protocol. Heya Tobias, Great news! Thanks fo

Re: [Twisted-Python] txThings - simple library for CoAP protocol

2013-10-06 Thread Tobias Oberstein
>>If above sounds OT for this list, in one way probably, but when looking from >>the angle: competitive advantage of Python/Twisted and opportunities for >>expanding the community and actively promoting Twisted, I'd say it's on >>topic. >While I appreciate showing respect for the list membership's

Re: [Twisted-Python] AutobahnPython 0.6.3 - WebSocket compression and more

2013-10-06 Thread Tobias Oberstein
>If I get a chance, I'll try to apply the recent attacks by Rizzo et al. on TLS >compression and the compressed stream over TLS equivalent by Prado et al., >since I like >compression but I also send credentials over TLS :) I guess you are referring to CRIME/BEAST, right? I haven't had a deep lo

Re: [Twisted-Python] AutobahnPython 0.6.3 - WebSocket compression and more

2013-10-06 Thread Laurens Van Houtven
Congratulations! Please keep the announcements coming. If I get a chance, I'll try to apply the recent attacks by Rizzo et al. on TLS compression and the compressed stream over TLS equivalent by Prado et al., since I like compression but I also send credentials over TLS :) cheers lvh