Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-07 Thread Albert Brandl
On Wed, Jul 06, 2011 at 05:27:55PM -0400, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: Looking at http://twistedmatrix.com/trac/ticket/3420 now, I see reviews with lots of functional issues and spec-compliance/correctness issues raised. There are a few notes on the API as well, but without addressing the

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-06 Thread Johan Rydberg
On 7/5/11 10:36 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz wrote: Can you point to a specific ticket where you think this was the case? I have this same general feeling, but pretty much all of the reviews I found when I went looking for specific examples included at least some significant coding-standard,

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-06 Thread Itamar Turner-Trauring
On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 13:10 +0200, Johan Rydberg wrote: I was mostly thinking about the persistent connection functionality for twisted.web.client.Agent. We definitely want this to get in, this was a large part of the motivation for Agent in the first place. Maybe Twisted would benefit more

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-06 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On Jul 6, 2011, at 8:04 AM, Itamar Turner-Trauring wrote: On Wed, 2011-07-06 at 13:10 +0200, Johan Rydberg wrote: I was mostly thinking about the persistent connection functionality for twisted.web.client.Agent. We definitely want this to get in, this was a large part of the motivation

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-05 Thread Laurens Van Houtven
On Tue, Jul 5, 2011 at 7:36 AM, Johan Rydberg johan.rydb...@edgeware.tvwrote: On 7/1/11 6:08 PM, Itamar Turner-Trauring wrote: In order to have at least some anecdotal evidence -- I've had some patched rejected, probably on sound basis. But the experience always leave you with a feeling

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-05 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On Jul 5, 2011, at 1:36 AM, Johan Rydberg wrote: On 7/1/11 6:08 PM, Itamar Turner-Trauring wrote: In order to have at least some anecdotal evidence -- I've had some patched rejected, probably on sound basis. But the experience always leave you with a feeling that you got stabbed. We're

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-04 Thread Johan Rydberg
On 7/1/11 6:08 PM, Itamar Turner-Trauring wrote: In order to have at least some anecdotal evidence -- I've had some patched rejected, probably on sound basis. But the experience always leave you with a feeling that you got stabbed. Sometimes it _is_ be better to get some basic functionality in

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Phil Mayers
On 01/07/11 17:08, Itamar Turner-Trauring wrote: In order to have at least some anecdotal evidence -- If you've submitted a patch to Twisted (or started a branch) and it never made it in, how did that happen? I imagine reasons might include a review request to write tests, redesign requests,

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread chris
Hi all, On 01.07.2011 18:36, Phil Mayers wrote: However, more constructively (less whiney!) some tickets languished in make these tiny cleanups and that's just incredibly painful in the current setup, with SVN and Trac mediating things. I've got absolutely no interest in pulling SVN head,

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On Jul 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, chris wrote: doing continuous development based on tools like svn and trac is really painful and it's really difficult to motivate yourself to work on a once rejected ticket Can you be more specific, please? What's painful? Procedurally, it's almost the same

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Tom Davis
On Jul 1, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, chris wrote: doing continuous development based on tools like svn and trac is really painful and it's really difficult to motivate yourself to work on a once rejected ticket Can you

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Jason J. W. Williams
Sent via iPhone Is your email Premiere? On Jul 1, 2011, at 11:41, Glyph Lefkowitz gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: Can you be more specific, please? What's painful? Re-syncing whatever changes JP (just as an example of a reviewer) has made back into your local repo from SVN...which due to

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Kevin Horn
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 11:08 AM, Itamar Turner-Trauring ita...@itamarst.org wrote: In order to have at least some anecdotal evidence -- If you've submitted a patch to Twisted (or started a branch) and it never made it in, how did that happen? I imagine reasons might include a review request

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Kevin Horn
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 12:41 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz gl...@twistedmatrix.comwrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, chris wrote: doing continuous development based on tools like svn and trac is really painful and it's really difficult to motivate yourself to work on a once rejected ticket Can you

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Itamar Turner-Trauring
It would be far simpler to setup my DVCS to track JP's remote copy of my ticket's branch...then simply pull from that remote...make my changes and request he pull from me when he's ready to review. Automates the whole process quite a bit and reduces the round trip yak shaving. Any reason you

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Glyph Lefkowitz
On Jul 1, 2011, at 2:06 PM, Tom Davis wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 1:41 PM, Glyph Lefkowitz gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 1:08 PM, chris wrote: doing continuous development based on tools like svn and trac is really painful and it's really difficult to motivate

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Laurens Van Houtven
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 1:27 AM, Glyph Lefkowitz gl...@twistedmatrix.comwrote: When you do a review, try to be as thorough as possible. Don't *ever* do a review that says update @since markers or 2 blank lines between methods and nothing else With Github's edit-this-file-on-the-web feature,

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread exarkun
On 1 Jul, 11:27 pm, gl...@twistedmatrix.com wrote: On Jul 1, 2011, at 6:57 PM, David Ripton wrote: Working with patches because you don't have svn commit rights is annoying, but this annoyance is a relatively minor fixed cost. It's still important for us to reduce this cost; even if it's not

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Tim Allen
On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 09:11:34PM +0200, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 8:59 PM, Itamar Turner-Trauring ita...@itamarst.orgwrote: Or for that matter, you can include e.g. an github URL in the ticket instead of attaching the patch. Only if there's a decent Github mirror

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Ivan Kozik
On Sat, Jul 2, 2011 at 02:23, Tim Allen screwt...@froup.com wrote: On Fri, Jul 01, 2011 at 09:11:34PM +0200, Laurens Van Houtven wrote: Only if there's a decent Github mirror to fork from, otherwise you're asking people to do a multi-hour operation (I know, because I'm doing it right now) to

Re: [Twisted-Python] SURVEY: Have you submitted a patch to Twisted and it never got in?

2011-07-01 Thread Mikhail Terekhov
On Fri, Jul 1, 2011 at 6:01 PM, Jason J. W. Williams jasonjwwilli...@gmail.com wrote: Because they don't always seem to track the ticket branch folders in a timely manner. Especially, when JP (he seems to usually be my reviewer :) ) pushes a modification of my patch to the ticket branch. It's