Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-30 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> I wanted to give a head's up that while the "top tweets" feature will > be *opt-in* at rollout, What was the eventual decision on keeping sorted-by-time the default for Search API results? -- personal: http://www.cameronkaiser.com/ -- Cameron Kaiser * Flo

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-30 Thread Abraham Williams
Has there been any consideration to including popular flag in the REST API as well? Abraham On Tue, Mar 30, 2010 at 16:14, Taylor Singletary < taylorsinglet...@twitter.com> wrote: > Hi all, > > This will be rolling out either later this week or early next. I'll be > providing you with more detai

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-30 Thread Taylor Singletary
Hi all, This will be rolling out either later this week or early next. I'll be providing you with more details as the release approaches. I wanted to give a head's up that while the "top tweets" feature will be *opt-in *at rollout, the addition of the new fields to the XML and JSON returns of the

[twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-30 Thread @dbbradle
Can you provide us with a time line for when this is going to be rolled out? On Mar 19, 10:09 am, Taylor Singletary wrote: > Your questions so far have been great and we're listening. > > I wanted to let everyone know that when we do roll this out, it will be such > that developers will "opt-in"

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-20 Thread Nigel Legg
Agreed - default sould be recentness, popularity - however it is defined - and we could go into a long sidetrack on that which has nothing to do with the api, apart from to just say that different people will have different ideas of how to take the data that comes with a tweet and use ti to calcul

[twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread S Wang
As someone who's developing some applications right now specifically involving the search APIs I now have to worry about whether or not I should pre-emptively include the result_type parameter so my app doesn't become non-functioning when the changes are pushed to the site. Why do the popular tweet

[twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread Martin Dudek
+1 for asking for keeping the default as it is right now (should be clear really strange to even discuss this) To unsubscribe from this group, send email to twitter-development-talk+unsubscribegooglegroups.com or reply to this email with the words "REMOVE ME" as the subject.

[twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread Jaanus
+1 to Cameron and funkatron. Making this default, even with a transition period, would be extremely bad practice. The whole point of API versioning is such that old stuff does not break. And yes, changing behavior so that results returned to same query are suddenly different is definitely "breaking

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread M. Edward (Ed) Borasky
As a developer, I've got my foot in (at least) two communities: Twitter developers and on-line marketing practitioners. Given that, I think this discussion needs to happen in a larger forum than the Twitter Developers' Google Group. I've put up a blog post and created a hashtag (#tweetsearc

[twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Taylor, In terms of this change, you need to separate Twitter Search from the Twitter Search API in your minds. Do with Twitter Search (the web interface) what you like. Make popular the default if you want. But, don't decide on behalf of the developers (the consumers of the Twitter Search API)

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> Your definition of "time to adjust" may not be ours. Twitter has, to > be honest, a fairly crappy reputation for changing API behavior. While > some of that was surely driven by performance concerns, I don't see > how this could be. This doesn't help the rep. > > Please, do not enable this by de

[twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread funkatron
Your definition of "time to adjust" may not be ours. Twitter has, to be honest, a fairly crappy reputation for changing API behavior. While some of that was surely driven by performance concerns, I don't see how this could be. This doesn't help the rep. Please, do not enable this by default, *ever

[twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread Richard Nevins
I'm also curious to understand how 'popular' tweets will be determined. Once a tweet is considered to be popular for search purposes, might it be cached for an extended period of time so that it will return for queries beyond the currently limited period? -- Richard Nevins Twitter: @hornOKplease

[twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread Robert Evans
I'm assuming "popular" is based on retweet count? I'd suggest that if result_type is not given in the request that the search performs as it has been. If you want just popular, you'd use popular as you've suggested or recent for non popular. If you wanted a mix, ordered as you are suggesting, then

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread Taylor Singletary
Even further clarifications: Top Tweets are coming to make search results even more relevant. We'll be tuning our ranking algorithms with gusto. Some people will naturally resist these changes. Approach with a zen mind. When we launch this new feature for the API, it will be opt-in for a transito

[twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread davidzimm
Bad idea. 1) reduces the credibility and thereby the value of the results in twitter search 2) who determines which is popular- no matter how you try to calculate this, someone will figure it out and spam the results. 3) people are used to searching twitter for breaking news, rather than "authorit

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> > So this would change the default behavior of the search API, which is > > currently to return "recent" results? > > > > If so, I think that's a bad idea. Better to offer the option than to > > change existing behavior when possible. > > +1. Don't break backwards compatibility unless there's

Re: [twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread Dossy Shiobara
On 3/19/10 10:42 AM, funkatron wrote: > So this would change the default behavior of the search API, which is > currently to return "recent" results? > > If so, I think that's a bad idea. Better to offer the option than to > change existing behavior when possible. +1. Don't break backwards compa

[twitter-dev] Re: Most popular tweets in the search API

2010-03-19 Thread funkatron
So this would change the default behavior of the search API, which is currently to return "recent" results? If so, I think that's a bad idea. Better to offer the option than to change existing behavior when possible. -- Ed Finkler http://funkatron.com Twitter:@funkatron AIM: funka7ron ICQ: 392213