[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-11 Thread Marcus Better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcus Better wrote: > So, a tweet by user X, directed to a list L, Sorry, that didn't make sense. Let's try again: A tweet by user X directed to list L (of which X is a member), shows up in the timeline of L, but not in the friends_timeline of any

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-11 Thread jmathai
That's what we offer at PubliciTweet. Create groups (now we're integrating with lists) and send DMs to the group. http://publicitweet.com On Nov 10, 11:32 am, Dale Folla MeDia wrote: > Andrew, Great idea...should be easy enough...just display all the lists and > have an "opt in" button for eac

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Dale Folla MeDia
Andrew, Great idea...should be easy enough...just display all the lists and have an "opt in" button for each, which lets everyone know they want a mutual follow relationship for this purpose. then as people opt in, they automatically follow each user in list, and then in reverse...although opt out

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Understood. My statement regarding re-enabling that feature was part of a conditional if statement. For now the logic is continuing to flow via the else branch. Dewald On Nov 10, 3:23 pm, Marcel Molina wrote: > I'm not saying any of this is being implemented. I'm just responding > in the abstra

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina
I'm not saying any of this is being implemented. I'm just responding in the abstract about the scenario you were proposing. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Dewald Pretorius wrote: > > Marcel, > > You should talk to Jillian about this as well. I'm sure she will have > a contrary opinion on the

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Marcel, You should talk to Jillian about this as well. I'm sure she will have a contrary opinion on the matter. Dewald On Nov 10, 2:51 pm, Marcel Molina wrote: > But people who are added to MarketerMario's list won't get his list > broadcasts unless they follow him. That's their "opt-in". If t

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Marcel, If that is the new line of thinking about bulk DMs by Twitter, then I am immediately going to enable the sending of bulk DMs to all the followers of a Twitter account in my service. I deactivated that feature early in the year when Doug advised me that Twitter does not condone sending bu

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Andrew Badera
You shouldn't have to follow someone to opt-in to receive directed messages. Lists have the potential to be a very different conversation than your public timeline. ∞ Andy Badera ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private ∞ Google me: http://www.google

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina
But people who are added to MarketerMario's list won't get his list broadcasts unless they follow him. That's their "opt-in". If they have followed him for whatever reason and decide they do *not* want his broadcasts, they can simply unfollow him. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:46 AM, Dewald Pretoriu

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Marcel, You can circumvent the issue by making the receiving of a DM that is sent to a list dependent on two triggers: a) You must follow the sender of the DM; and b) You must explicitly double opt-in to receive DMs that are sent to the list. Bona fide use cases will be able to acquire the dou

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cameron Kaiser wrote: > The thing I'm not getting is that I don't decide what lists I'm a member of; Agreed. > I get added to them by the owner of that list. If @spammymcspammer adds me > to @spammymcspammer/spammy_spam, then anyone on that list can

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Marcel Molina wrote: > That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. Very nice to hear! :-) > rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be > enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina
As with all things, there will certainly be vectors for abuse. For every bad use case, there are just as many or more positive use cases. We'll certainly be thinking about many on both sides. Thanks for pointing out some of the potential hazards. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 10:28 AM, Dewald Pretorius

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread neal rauhauser
You have to view Twitter in its native environment - desktop/laptop AND cell phone. People who'd never give their phone number to a political campaign or ballot initiative will sign up for updates by agreeing to be on a list and they'll engage in flashmob behavior - just ask Congressman Stupak's

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Andrew Badera
Agreed. Working on an app for service professionals who need the ability to target their message at an opted-in group. ∞ Andy Badera ∞ +1 518-641-1280 Google Voice ∞ This email is: [ ] bloggable [x] ask first [ ] private ∞ Google me: http://www.google.com/search?q=andrew%20badera On Tue, Nov 1

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread neal rauhauser
There is a solid need for a Tweet to list feature - a political campaign might organize volunteers by placing them on a list and would need to hit them all at once with a message. I have a little script that does this now and it's a high value service in the eye of campaigns and initiatives. Tw

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Dewald Pretorius
Marcel, How would that be different from sending bulk DMs - something I have been advised in the past is not something that Twitter condones. Here's the scenario. MarketerMario has 2,000 followers. He creates four lists and adds 500 of his followers to each list. Now he can send, with four simp

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcel Molina
That is indeed an interesting idea that we've been thinking about. The rules around who can send and receive DMs would continue to be enforced as normal, so for talking purposes, if you DMed a list, only those who follow you would receive it. On Tue, Nov 10, 2009 at 9:21 AM, Marcus Better wrote:

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> What I mean is that a tweet directed to a list (by a member of that > list) will show up > (a) in the tweet timeline of that list, > (b) and hence also in the friends_timeline of the followers of the list, > (c) but NOT in the user_timeline of the poster. > > It differs from a regular tweet in

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Marcus Better
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Cameron Kaiser wrote: >> have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of "direct >> message" to a list? >> >> This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the >> user is a member of the list). > Not wild about this,

[twitter-dev] Re: direct messages to lists

2009-11-10 Thread Cameron Kaiser
> have you considered adding a mechanism for sending a sort of "direct > message" to a list? > > This would allow users to send targeted tweets to a list (provided the > user is a member of the list). It could be incredibly useful. For > example tweets on a specific topic could be targeted to a s