Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-11 Thread Karsten Dambekalns
Hi. On 10.11.12 17:27, Stefan Neufeind wrote: I was just interested in the process behind making it TYPO3 Surf. I'd still be interested to learn about it in more detail. And if somebody could write something together that could also be stuffed in a small site to show it's an official

Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-10 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On 11/06/2012 05:15 PM, Steffen Gebert wrote: [...] I was just interested in the process behind making it TYPO3 Surf. I'd still be interested to learn about it in more detail. And if somebody could write something together that could also be stuffed in a small site to show it's an official

Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-07 Thread Karsten Dambekalns
Hi Steffen. On 06.11.12 17:15, Steffen Gebert wrote: But the by members of the core team is interesting - what if other people from our community want to put sth. under an official umbrella? Well, how does that work right now? That is not a problem that is really new, is it? And maybe the

Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-06 Thread Karsten Dambekalns
Hi. On 04.11.12 18:59, Steffen Gebert wrote: Why is Surf not a product of people from our community, like all the extensions are? What are the steps for a product to be called TYPO3 whatever? We come from a CMS community and have a PHP framework now (which is nice, of course :-)), and we get

Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-06 Thread Steffen Gebert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi Karsten, thanks for your answer. I agree that we should not complicate matters. I think we're not that far as apache, so we shouldn't take two steps at once. I hope you don't think that I'm against you ;) And I don't want to say go away. But the

Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Bless
Hi, From what I picked up from the brand presentation almost every product inside the TYPO3 universe can be prefixed TYPO3 slightly different topic, but since the right audience is here: Having TYPO3 blank product as naming scheme doesn't look like a wise decision to me. The real world

Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-05 Thread Martin Bless
Good morning Olivier, I will be reading: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Incubation_Policy.html for inspiration. Will you join me? yes ... Martin ___ TYPO3-english mailing list TYPO3-english@lists.typo3.org

Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-05 Thread Steffen Gebert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 From what I picked up from the brand presentation almost every product inside the TYPO3 universe can be prefixed TYPO3 Well, but what if sb. builds something crappy and calls it TYPO3 Foobar. Not good, if everybody can use the name TYPO3

[TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-04 Thread Steffen Gebert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hi, after some random thinking, I was asking my self, who defines/defined Surf to be called TYPO3 Surf, thus make it a product of the TYPO3 community and Association. Don't get me wrong: It's not that I dislike Surf - what I've seen so far looks

Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-04 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On 11/04/2012 06:59 PM, Steffen Gebert wrote: after some random thinking, I was asking my self, who defines/defined Surf to be called TYPO3 Surf, thus make it a product of the TYPO3 community and Association. Don't get me wrong: It's not that I dislike Surf - what I've seen so far looks

Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-04 Thread Michael Stucki
Hi Steffen, I think Surf was just used as an example to show the potential of having a maker brand. As far as I can see it is not handled as a separate product, just as Fluid isn't either. Like Stefan already mentioned: They both don't even have their own website... Greetings, Michael Am

Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-04 Thread Olivier Dobberkau
Am 04.11.12 18:59, schrieb Steffen Gebert: The Apache project is nice and a shining example, but we're not that far that we have things like Apache Incubator or any defined process for becoming an official product, yet, don't we? Its not who you are, but who you want to be. I would be in

Re: [TYPO3-english] (TYPO3) Surf as official product?

2012-11-04 Thread Thomas Maroschik
In my opinion the TYPO3 Namespace should be open to the community. The community forms the association, so everyone who decides to use the NS for his own Products should do that. There are individuals out there which kickstart a great product and gather a team around them afterwards. The