Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-02-01 Thread Kay Strobach
Hello Mitja, TYPO3 6.0.1 ist extremly useless with PHP 5.3.7, please try 5.4, there you will get a good speed. I suggested in the corelist to make the php 5.3.7 warning really visible :D The Hardware should be really suitable for what you need :D Please also haev a look into a phpbyte cache

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-02-01 Thread Kay Strobach
Hello Mitja, the speeddifference in php 5.3.3 and 5.4 is because of a new Classloader and many bugs in the class aliasing in older releases (i wonder why php 5.3.3 runs ;)) If TYPO3 backend is still slow, please take a look into apc, or a similar bytecode cache, increase the cache memory to

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-02-01 Thread Henjo Hoeksma | Stylence
Hi Mitja, you might be experiencing a whole different issue locally. Local DNS seems to make MacOSX local webserver very very slow. You might want to dive into that for a solution. Kind regards, Henjo Problems are small because we learned how to deal with them. Problems are big because we need

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-31 Thread Marc Bastian Heinrichs
Hey, For example: Here are the results with list module on a page with same nr. or elements: 4.3.5 : 348 milliseconds 6.0.1: 923 milliseconds The difference is huge. Pardon my ignorance here however this kind of blows my mind how the top notch version can be worse than what we had

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-31 Thread Kay Strobach
Hello Mitja, is it allowed to ask for your system parameters? TYPO3 Version Installed extensions (and Versions) PHP Version MySQL Version Accelerator Version Ram Access Characteristics I recently installed TYPO36.0 in VMWare and it's really fast ;) The first call may be slow, but then the cache

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Philipp Gampe
Hi Mitja, Mitja wrote: Pardon my ignorance here however this kind of blows my mind how the top notch version can be worse than what we had years ago. Bugfixes and new features ... Best regards -- Philipp Gampe – PGP-Key 0AD96065 – TYPO3 UG Bonn/Köln Documentation – linkvalidator TYPO3

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Gideon So
Hi Philipp, The answer is funny. Fixing bugs leads to a slow backend. Isn't a slow backend is a huge bug to fix?? Gideon 於 2013年01月30日 星期三 04:38 下午, Philipp Gampe 提到: Hi Mitja, Mitja wrote: Pardon my ignorance here however this kind of blows my mind how the top notch version can be

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Steffen Gebert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 The answer is funny. Fixing bugs leads to a slow backend. Isn't a slow backend is a huge bug to fix?? Yes, it is. It's definitely worth to improve that situation. Kind regards Steffen - -- Steffen Gebert TYPO3 Server Administration Team Member

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Georg Ringer
Hi, Am 30.01.2013 10:33, schrieb Mitja: Any idea on how to improve this? do real analysis, e.g. by using kcachegrind and deliver the statistics. trust me, there is not a single line like sleep(2) which can be removed and it is fast again ;) georg

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Jigal van Hemert
Hi, On 30-1-2013 9:43, Gideon So wrote: The answer is funny. Fixing bugs leads to a slow backend. Isn't a slow backend is a huge bug to fix?? It's not funny at all. To repair things and to implement new features it is often necessary to do extra processing. Each time only a little bit

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Philipp Gampe
Hi Mitja, Mitja wrote: I am sure that if we the users developers notice, than the CORE developers must also have noticed this... Any idea on how to improve this? Tweak your configuration and share your tweaks... e.g. 't3lib_cs_convMethod' = 'mbstring',

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Gideon So
Hi Philipp, Is mbstring faster than iconv?? Gideon 於 2013年01月30日 星期三 07:39 下午, Philipp Gampe 提到: Hi Mitja, Mitja wrote: I am sure that if we the users developers notice, than the CORE developers must also have noticed this... Any idea on how to improve this? Tweak your

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Christian Kuhn
Hey, On 01/30/2013 11:49 AM, Gideon So wrote: Is mbstring faster than iconv?? from my testing i did a while ago: yes, but not that much. but iconv + mbstring both are WAY quicker than internal code. install tool should actually check the system and set the quickest solution

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Philipp Gampe
Hi Christian, Christian Kuhn wrote: install tool should actually check the system and set the quickest solution automatically or something. Yes, this is missing ... I guess we could set a few other settings after some tests too. E.g. curlUse, etc. Currently the IM settings are

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Christian Kuhn
Hey. On 01/30/2013 11:16 PM, Philipp Gampe wrote: Christian Kuhn wrote: install tool should actually check the system and set the quickest solution automatically or something. Yes, this is missing ... I guess we could set a few other settings after some tests too. E.g. curlUse, etc.

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Christian Kuhn
Hey, On 01/30/2013 11:54 PM, Christian Kuhn wrote: If we're lucky, adding a new step 1 is also not that complicated, so we don't need to completely refactor the install tool at this point, which is clearly a much more complicated task. And if we're even more lucky, we might be able to lend

Re: [TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-30 Thread Philipp Gampe
Hi Christian, Christian Kuhn wrote: If we're lucky, adding a new step 1 is also not that complicated, so we don't need to completely refactor the install tool at this point, which is clearly a much more complicated task. And if we're even more lucky, we might be able to lend some code or

[TYPO3-english] Backend speed performance 4.3.5 vs 6.0.1

2013-01-29 Thread Mitja
Hello! I'd like to know how come a request via the LIST module (For example - Page module is the same or worse) in TYPO 6.0.1 on a simple page takes 3 times the time it takes in the obsolete version 4.3.5. For example: Here are the results with list module on a page with same nr. or elements: