Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-12-05 Thread Stefano Cecere
On 05/12/12 10:52, Jigal van Hemert wrote: Hi, On 5-12-2012 9:06, Stefano Cecere wrote: i can't upgrade to 6.0 unless some kind of diff view of ext files will come back. I'm not sure if a diff view is useful for integrators. A notification that certain files were modified would be very useful

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-12-05 Thread Jigal van Hemert
Hi, On 5-12-2012 9:06, Stefano Cecere wrote: indeed.. my concern is: will anybody want to develop 6.0 em anymore? Sure! -- Jigal van Hemert TYPO3 Core Team member TYPO3 inspiring people to share! Get involved: typo3.org ___ TYPO3-english maili

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-12-05 Thread Jigal van Hemert
Hi, On 5-12-2012 9:06, Stefano Cecere wrote: i can't upgrade to 6.0 unless some kind of diff view of ext files will come back. I'm not sure if a diff view is useful for integrators. A notification that certain files were modified would be very useful (you can then use your favourite tools to

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-12-05 Thread Stefano Cecere
On 03/12/12 09:07, Dmitry Dulepov wrote: The question is: was it what people wanted or was it that somebody thought people wanted? :) couldn't agree more i can't upgrade to 6.0 unless some kind of diff view of ext files will come back. since this function is not in extdeveval .. i was told

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-12-05 Thread Stefano Cecere
On 30/11/12 12:02, Jigal van Hemert wrote: Hi, On 30-11-2012 9:08, Dmitry Dulepov wrote: Stefano Cecere wrote: at the end: the old em was a mess.. this new one (extbase+fluid+jquery) will allow faster development I do not see how "this new one" will allow faster development :) I think Stef

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-12-03 Thread Dmitry Dulepov
Hi! Steffen Gebert wrote: No, the point was to *not* re-implement all the features which are not related to extension management in a "normal" TYPO3 installation. The question is: was it what people wanted or was it that somebody thought people wanted? :) Even when I do not work like a deve

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-12-03 Thread Dmitry Dulepov
Hi! Georg Ringer wrote: ever seen the code base? ever needed to change something there? Yes, I saw it. You could have guessed the answer. And, yes, I fixed bugs there. -- Dmitry Dulepov TYPO3 CMS core & security teams member Simplicity will save the world. __

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-30 Thread Steffen Gebert
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 No, the point was to *not* re-implement all the features which are not related to extension management in a "normal" TYPO3 installation. Kind regards Steffen - -- Steffen Gebert TYPO3 CMS Core Team Member TYPO3 Server Administration Team Member TYP

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-30 Thread Martin Weissen
Am 30.11.2012 12:43, schrieb Georg Ringer: Am 30.11.2012 12:27, schrieb Dmitry Dulepov: May be. But I do not see why we would need a different EM from 4.5... The one from 4.6 was worse but the EM, coded by Karsten, was great. ever seen the code base? ever needed to change something there? geo

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-30 Thread Jigal van Hemert
Hi, On 30-11-2012 12:27, Dmitry Dulepov wrote: But I do not see why we would need a different EM from 4.5... The one from 4.6 was worse but the EM, coded by Karsten, was great. The EM from 4.6 was already introduced in 4.5. This had a few problems: - the frontend was ExtJS and we have not eno

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-30 Thread Kay Strobach
Hello guys, i've not found an upload option in extdeval yet ... Regards Kay Am 28.11.2012 14:42, schrieb Georg Ringer: > Hi, > > Am 28.11.2012 14:32, schrieb Stefano Cecere: >> so i guess we should just stay quiet and report bugs and suggestions! > > I hope you don't mean quiet like "keep your

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-30 Thread Georg Ringer
Am 30.11.2012 12:27, schrieb Dmitry Dulepov: > May be. But I do not see why we would need a different EM from 4.5... > The one from 4.6 was worse but the EM, coded by Karsten, was great. ever seen the code base? ever needed to change something there? georg ___

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-30 Thread Stefan Neufeind
On 11/30/2012 12:27 PM, Dmitry Dulepov wrote: > Hi! > > Jigal van Hemert wrote: >> I think Stefano means that the development of the EM itself will be >> easier. > > May be. But I do not see why we would need a different EM from 4.5... > The one from 4.6 was worse but the EM, coded by Karsten, wa

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-30 Thread Andi
+1 Sent from Andi's iPhone On Nov 30, 2012, at 18:27, Dmitry Dulepov wrote: > Hi! > > Jigal van Hemert wrote: >> I think Stefano means that the development of the EM itself will be easier. > > May be. But I do not see why we would need a different EM from 4.5... The one > from 4.6 was wors

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-30 Thread Dmitry Dulepov
Hi! Jigal van Hemert wrote: I think Stefano means that the development of the EM itself will be easier. May be. But I do not see why we would need a different EM from 4.5... The one from 4.6 was worse but the EM, coded by Karsten, was great. -- Dmitry Dulepov TYPO3 CMS core & security teams

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-30 Thread Jigal van Hemert
Hi, On 30-11-2012 9:08, Dmitry Dulepov wrote: Stefano Cecere wrote: at the end: the old em was a mess.. this new one (extbase+fluid+jquery) will allow faster development I do not see how "this new one" will allow faster development :) I think Stefano means that the development of the EM its

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-30 Thread Dmitry Dulepov
Hi! Stefano Cecere wrote: i also asked some questions on the new EM (in dev list) lacking important features (now developers have always to have extdeveval isntalled for example) at the end: the old em was a mess.. this new one (extbase+fluid+jquery) will allow faster development I do not see

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-29 Thread Philipp Gampe
Hi Andreas, Andreas Becker wrote: > There are no errors! Good, then you at least know to things: 1) Either your error logging is set up wrong 2) or the PHP code works, but does the wrong thing >> You are long enough to TYPO3 to help yourself. Just go and copy the >> extension list from one sys

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-28 Thread Stefano Cecere
On 28/11/12 14:42, Georg Ringer wrote: Hi, Am 28.11.2012 14:32, schrieb Stefano Cecere: so i guess we should just stay quiet and report bugs and suggestions! I hope you don't mean quiet like "keep your mouth shout" because that would just not be true. no i just mean to not just complain, bu

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-28 Thread Andreas Becker
Sent from my iPad On 29 พ.ย. 2555, at 0:10, Philipp Gampe wrote: > Hi Andreas Becker, > > Andreas Becker wrote: > >> Hi Phillip >> >> The import Tab is a nice turning feature for meditation but not for >> production. It is still turning! Using an old installation and than simply >> copying

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-28 Thread Andreas Becker
Thanks Kay This was a helpful link Andi Sent from my iPad On 29 พ.ย. 2555, at 0:13, Kay Strobach wrote: > http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/?id=23&L=0&q=extdeveval > > > Am 28.11.2012 17:50, schrieb Andi: >> extdeval - where to get it and how to get it into TYPO3 when the new turning

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-28 Thread Kay Strobach
http://typo3.org/extensions/repository/?id=23&L=0&q=extdeveval Am 28.11.2012 17:50, schrieb Andi: > extdeval - where to get it and how to get it into TYPO3 when the new turning > feature of EM don't stop turning? > > Basically the new EM takes very long to load at all. The icons are to near to

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-28 Thread Philipp Gampe
Hi Andreas Becker, Andreas Becker wrote: > Hi Phillip > > The import Tab is a nice turning feature for meditation but not for > production. It is still turning! Using an old installation and than simply > copying the extensions you'll need over to the new site is much much > faster, than waiting

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-28 Thread Andi
extdeval - where to get it and how to get it into TYPO3 when the new turning feature of EM don't stop turning? Basically the new EM takes very long to load at all. The icons are to near to each other and much to small to be usable i.e. on iPad either. The 4.7.7 EM worked fine on iPad. Usabilit

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-28 Thread Kay Strobach
Hi, basicly i agree, that we devide all staff from em. But we need a general extension for developers, which suggests all important extensions for development - this is not important for experienced users, but for starters ;) I would think of: EXT:dev -> extdeval -> kickstarter -> extensionb

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-28 Thread Georg Ringer
Hi, Am 28.11.2012 14:32, schrieb Stefano Cecere: > so i guess we should just stay quiet and report bugs and suggestions! I hope you don't mean quiet like "keep your mouth shout" because that would just not be true. Developers should always have a look at extdeveval as this is in general a big he

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-28 Thread Stefano Cecere
On 28/11/12 12:21, Andreas Becker wrote: Hi Phillip The import Tab is a nice turning feature for meditation but not for production. It is still turning! Using an old installation and than simply copying the extensions you'll need over to the new site is much much faster, than waiting. Also is

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-28 Thread Andreas Becker
Hi Phillip The import Tab is a nice turning feature for meditation but not for production. It is still turning! Using an old installation and than simply copying the extensions you'll need over to the new site is much much faster, than waiting. Also is there no more way to sort extensions or l

Re: [TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-28 Thread Philipp Gampe
Hi Andreas, it takes as long as the old implementation, because the file has not changed and the download usually takes longest. Andreas Becker wrote: > Is there a way to disable the automatic retrieving of this Extension-List > as it slows down development enormously. It is not useful at all w

[TYPO3-english] TYPO3 6.0 Extension Manager

2012-11-27 Thread Andreas Becker
Hi How long should it usually take until the new extension manager gets his updated extension list? I see only "Retrieving Extension-List from TYPO3 Extension Repository (TER)" Is there a way to disable the automatic retrieving of this Extension-List as it slows down development enormously. It i