Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-13 Thread Heiko Schocher
Hello ksi, k...@koi8.net wrote: > On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Wolfgang Denk wrote: > > >> Dear k...@koi8.net, >> >> In message you wrote: >> [...] >>> It was _NOT_ a discussion. It ceased to be one after a couple of days. You >>> guys somehow got scared by innocent CPP tricks and then discussion

Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-12 Thread Heiko Schocher
Hello ksi, k...@koi8.net wrote: [...] > Eh, I did offer such a model for I2C :) And that model can be extended to > anything else. That is what I'm actually implementing for my new board. But > that goes into $(BOARD)/* because I simply don't have time for pushing it > into the U-Boot proper. I wa

Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-12 Thread ksi
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Wolfgang Denk wrote: > Dear k...@koi8.net, > > In message you wrote: > > > > That's true but... It is not that unusual to have several similar interfaces > > on a board. There is nothing obscure or weird in that. But allowing for only > > one of those interfaces (whichever

Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-12 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear k...@koi8.net, In message you wrote: > > That's true but... It is not that unusual to have several similar interfaces > on a board. There is nothing obscure or weird in that. But allowing for only > one of those interfaces (whichever one chooses) supported by a given binary > is what is wei

Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-12 Thread ksi
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Wolfgang Denk wrote: > Dear k...@koi8.net, > > In message you wrote: > > > > It is supposed to be a "Universal" bootloader. Here is what wiki says: > > There is a certain difference between "universal" and "omnipotent". > Note that it's called "U-Boot", not "O-Boot". That

Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-12 Thread Wolfgang Denk
Dear k...@koi8.net, In message you wrote: > > It is supposed to be a "Universal" bootloader. Here is what wiki says: There is a certain difference between "universal" and "omnipotent". Note that it's called "U-Boot", not "O-Boot". > === Cut === > Das U-Boot (Universal Bootloader, short for "Da

Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-12 Thread ksi
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Detlev Zundel wrote: > Hello ksi (so I'll leave it at that), > > > First of all, there are several bootable devices on a motherboard itself. > > These days almost every motherboard has PATA and some kind of SATA RAID > > controller onboard. Then, it can usually boot off of US

Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-12 Thread Detlev Zundel
Hello ksi (so I'll leave it at that), > First of all, there are several bootable devices on a motherboard itself. > These days almost every motherboard has PATA and some kind of SATA RAID > controller onboard. Then, it can usually boot off of USB while having USB > keyboard/mouse. As for add-on de

Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-12 Thread ksi
On Thu, 12 Mar 2009, Detlev Zundel wrote: > Hi ksi (was it Sergei?), > > >> The fundamental concept of u-boot isn't to handle all your devices, it is > >> to > >> boot linux (or other OS) and use the OS to handle the multiple devices. > > > > The same is true for a PC BIOS, but it DOES handle al

Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-12 Thread Detlev Zundel
Hi ksi (was it Sergei?), >> The fundamental concept of u-boot isn't to handle all your devices, it is to >> boot linux (or other OS) and use the OS to handle the multiple devices. > > The same is true for a PC BIOS, but it DOES handle all of my devices. And it > allows me to choose which device to

Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-10 Thread ksi
On Tue, 10 Mar 2009, Jerry Van Baren wrote: > k...@koi8.net wrote: > > Hi, everyone. > > > > I wonder if I'm dreaming or the U-Boot is fundamentally broken... > > Well... broken can be a relative term. I like to think of it as an > opportunity to stand on the shoulders of giants. ;-) :) > >

Re: [U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-10 Thread Jerry Van Baren
k...@koi8.net wrote: > Hi, everyone. > > I wonder if I'm dreaming or the U-Boot is fundamentally broken... Well... broken can be a relative term. I like to think of it as an opportunity to stand on the shoulders of giants. ;-) > It looks like there is no support for multiple devices of a same

[U-Boot] Multiple device support - none at all?

2009-03-10 Thread ksi
Hi, everyone. I wonder if I'm dreaming or the U-Boot is fundamentally broken... It looks like there is no support for multiple devices of a same kind at all. I'm porting U-Boot to my new MPC8548-based board and it pops up everywhere... The first case was I2C subsystem that does not provide for