[AD][U2] PICK 101

2005-10-05 Thread Ray Wurlod
> > BTW - thanks to everyone who's responded .. Now I've got > > to figure out WHERE to send him .. > > -Chuck U2 training runs regularly in sunny Australia! =8^D http://www.trainingchoice.com --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserv

RE: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread Ray Wurlod
You obviously haven't taken up the IBM mindset yet. Ya shoulda SUED 'em! - Original Message - From: Debster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site Date: Thu, 6 Oct 2005 00:07:43 -0400 > > Needless to say I quickly boot

RE: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread Debster
I don't know if this tops that BUT I was trolling vendors for a replacement package for a MFG/Dist client. When the Progress vendor came in to do the demo -- low and behold they had basically stolen an old ADP MFG package and there on the screen was my revamped modules ported over to Progress...a

RE: [U2] PICK 101

2005-10-05 Thread Tony Gravagno
I completely forgot that Raining Data offers U2 training. Why? You ask? (I hope I have my facts straight.) They inherited the education materials from JES and Associates when Jon Sisk joined managemet back in the PickAxe days. The situation with Jon fell apart for various reasons but they held t

RE: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread Larry Kessler
>Yes. I was doing a data transfer project for a company I worked for >and we are building this horribly complicated flattening to comma-sep >when I discovered that the destination system was also MV. No one had >thought to ask if they were an MV shop. Once we knew that, we sent them >a multival

RE: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread Debster
;-) I had to laugh when I walked into my camera store only to see an extremely old Ultimate terminal. That green screen popped out at me. Apparently someone had installed a simple POS system for him years ago and he had been performing the maintenance after self teaching himself PICK. Same thing

RE: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread Bruce Nichol
Goo'day, At 20:09 05/10/05 -0400, you wrote: ;-) I had to laugh when I walked into my camera store only to see an extremely old Ultimate terminal. That green screen popped out at me. Apparently someone had installed a simple POS system for him years ago and he had been performing the maintena

RE: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread Debster
or is itthat you might know of any possible bugs that exist if they hadn't loaded the last release ;-) -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Marilyn Hilb Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 12:51 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [O

Re: [U2] Backups -- Universe

2005-10-05 Thread John Hester
Susan Joslyn wrote: Greetings group. What are you folks using for backups these days? In terms of media and management thereof? Especially on Universe? We've been using a UniTrends D2D appliance since last Feb.: http://www.unitrends.com/solutions/integrated/dpu2000.aspx I'm not using uvback

Re: [U2] [wIntegrate][UV] Changing emulation parameters via script?

2005-10-05 Thread Ian Renfrew
Hi Barry, I suggest: 1) Close all wIntegrate sessions 2) Using the wIntegrate editor, modify the desired .wit file (i.e. wyse50 or wyse60). 3) Locate the line of code you want to modify and duplicate (i.e. TerminalCommand = "\018" ,"Script 'wintsys\\wit_scr\\CopyPrt'") 4) Comment the first d

Re: [U2] [wIntegrate][UV] Changing emulation parameters via script?

2005-10-05 Thread Ian Renfrew
- Original Message - From: "Barry Brevik" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "U2-users (E-mail)" Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:57 PM Subject: [U2] [wIntegrate][UV] Changing emulation parameters via script? We are running wIntegrate 5.1.1 as a front end to Universe 9.6.1.3 running on W2K.

RE: [U2] more serious notes on GOTO

2005-10-05 Thread Ross Ferris
Yeah But you have to admit, this is an "interesting" solution to bring both camps together :-) (or maybe make the rift larger) Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage > Better by Design! >-Original Message- >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Tayl

RE: [U2] more serious notes on GOTO

2005-10-05 Thread Tony Gravagno
Richard Taylor wrote: >Serguei wrote: >> From my experience working with a team of different >> developers this is the worst possible and a very selfish >> scenario a developer might choose to follow. > > While I agree with you in principle, reality sets in real > quick. Sometimes you simply don'

[U2] [wIntegrate][UV] Changing emulation parameters via script?

2005-10-05 Thread Barry Brevik
We are running wIntegrate 5.1.1 as a front end to Universe 9.6.1.3 running on W2K. There are many parameters that can be influenced by client side scripting, but I find myself wanting to change a parameter that is established in all of my user's .WIT file that is loaded at startup. I believe the f

RE: [U2] -> [u2C] the 4 letter word

2005-10-05 Thread John Jenkins
http://www.fortran.com/fortran/come_from.html I believe the debate has now been closed? Regards JayJay --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] Mvbase 2 Universe

2005-10-05 Thread Paul Hamrick
The IBM UniVerse acct.restore does not support the mvBASE .vtf file. You will have to make a SAVE to physical tape. Remember only 1 account at a time. Make your tapes at 8192 for least problems as that is the default on the UniVerse side. >From the mvBASE side > T-SELECT > T-ONLINE > T-ATT 8192 >

Re: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
So how long will it take the industry to figure out that if you can keep data in an xml-like data model for the life of the data, rather than ever putting it in 1NF, it will be easier (and less expensive) for everyone? --dawn On 10/5/05, Results <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Scott, > Yes. I was d

Re: [U2] Mvbase 2 Universe

2005-10-05 Thread Dave Taylor
Dave, I don't know if there is a difference between Universe/.nix and Universe/NT with respect to their file restore and account restore verbs. I do know, however, that we have been totally unable to restore an account-save or a file-save from AP, D3, mvBase or GA R91 to UV/NT. Consequently, we

Re: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread Dawn Wolthuis
After I moved to a small city in Iowa a couple of years ago, someone at church asked me if I could help get his company's IT function more smoothly, so I did a few hours of consulting for him over the next couple of months. I asked him what database his company used and he said "Informix" so it was

RE: [U2] PICK 101

2005-10-05 Thread Lettau, Jeff
Who eat dinner later then 3:00pm and stay up later then 8:00 to complete projects on time? Who don't carry an AARP card? Or maybe they like watching the young people learn skills and then go get better paying jobs? Just to cover myself. I consider more "experienced" assets to a company. They

RE: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread George Gallen
Last year, I went to our local Window factory, and when they checked their system for my order, the "menu" was very Pick-like. I asked her if they were running PickHer jaw fell open and asked How in world did I know that. A pick menu is a pick menu is a pick menu. Gotta luv the green screen.

Re: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread Results
Scott, Yes. I was doing a data transfer project for a company I worked for and we are building this horribly complicated flattening to comma-sep when I discovered that the destination system was also MV. No one had thought to ask if they were an MV shop. Once we knew that, we sent them a mu

RE: [U2] Fw: More U2 programming hints

2005-10-05 Thread Allen E. Elwood
Well, only testing would reveal that. Anything else is just speculation that "it's better now". My last testing of GOTO's revealed they are still slower than GOSUB's and this was last year. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Keith W. Roberts Se

RE: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread Marilyn Hilb
Not too much of a geek.. Me.. I want to know what application he was running! To see if it is one that I am familiar with! -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 11:27 AM To: u2-User

Re: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread karlp
> logging into is Unidata. The name of the store is Grants appliances based > out of Joliet, IL. > > My questions to the list are have any of you had similar experiences and > how much of a geek am I to get totally excited about seeing another U2 > site in action? All the time [no more disclosur

RE: [U2] PICK 101

2005-10-05 Thread Larry Hiscock
Who work cheaply. Larry Hiscock Western Computer Services -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 6:16 AM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject: RE: [U2] PICK 101 I suspect that, like many co

Re: [OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread Michael Logue
I've encountered a number of U2 applications in my normal day-to-day life. First was the Colorado AAA - don't know what app or database they were running, but did note they were running either Dynamic Connect or wIntegrate on the workstation. Second is a furniture chain called American Furniture

RE: [U2] Fw: More U2 programming hints

2005-10-05 Thread Keith W. Roberts
Original Message From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen E. Elwood Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 2:45 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Fw: More U2 programming hints > This is the way it was explained to me way back in '88. The > internal

[OT] [U2] chance encounter with a u2 site

2005-10-05 Thread iggchamp
Hi All, The other day I walked into a store to pick up a new dryer because my other dryer (1 year old) had caught fire. Note to self: Make sure you clean out your dryer ducts on a routine basis. Anyway, one of the sales reps starts to log into their system when I notice an AIX message pass by.

[U2] Mvbase 2 Universe

2005-10-05 Thread Dave R
I need to do an account restore from an mvBase.vtf to universe. Does any one have instructions for this one? Thanks D Raven cell (949)2282224 e Fax (815)4259364 P.O. Box 17811, Irvine CA 92623-7811 --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://l

RE: [U2] PICK 101

2005-10-05 Thread Chuck Mongiovi
> why, when there are so many PICK people scrambling for spots especially in > the Northeast was a non-PICK person hired? To head off all of these questions in advance, and there have been more than one: He's a documentation guy who needs to learn a little about PICK, not programmer .. BTW - tha

RE: [U2] PICK 101

2005-10-05 Thread astarte00
Bill I heard you clearning your throat all the way over here as you carefully selected the word "young" -- Debster -- Original message -- > I suspect that, like many companies, this company prefers to hire young > people. > > --B > > -Original Message- >

RE: [U2] more serious notes on GOTO

2005-10-05 Thread Richard Taylor
Ross, Please tell me you are kidding. RETURN TO is worse than using a GOTO. You think you are dealing with a nice neat subroutine and then the 'hidden' goto in the return bites you. Rich Taylor | Senior Programmer/Analyst| VERTIS 250 W. Pratt Street | Baltimore, MD 21201 P 410.361.8688 | F 410.5

RE: [U2] more serious notes on GOTO

2005-10-05 Thread Richard Taylor
> From my experience working with a team of different developers this is the > worst possible and a very selfish scenario a developer might choose to > follow. This is why in many cases the longer code exist the worse it is > getting. > GOTOing out of a jam simply add more garbage to the pot of gar

RE: [U2] UniBasic

2005-10-05 Thread Jim Cullen
Thanks to all for your help! I've just created a simple hello world with inputs, cataloged and added it to the VOC. Good to go! Thanks -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Allen E. Elwood Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 12:00 PM To: u2-users

RE: [U2] the 4 letter word

2005-10-05 Thread Richard Taylor
You mean {Gasp..cough} it's not {hack} Rich Taylor | Senior Programmer/Analyst| VERTIS 250 W. Pratt Street | Baltimore, MD 21201 P 410.361.8688 | F 410.528.0319 [EMAIL PROTECTED] | http://www.vertisinc.com Vertis is the premier provider of targeted advertising, media, and marketing services th

Re: [U2] Backups -- Universe

2005-10-05 Thread brian
For sites: uvbackup to local disk image to ensure database image consistency. Then OS backup to include the disk image. For home: I run virtual PCs for everything: as well as being extremley useful for testing various configurations, they are hardware independent so VPC images can move between m

RE: [U2] PICK 101

2005-10-05 Thread Brutzman, Bill
I suspect that, like many companies, this company prefers to hire young people. --B -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Debster Sent: Tuesday, October 04, 2005 8:53 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] PICK 101 the bigger quest

RE: [U2] more serious notes on GOTO

2005-10-05 Thread Ross Ferris
Personally I prefer the RETURN TO syntax - all the 'elegance' of subroutines, with the bonus of conditional exits. Now THAT was a "nice innovation" in the language Ross Ferris Stamina Software Visage > Better by Design! --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe plea

RE: [U2] Backups -- Universe

2005-10-05 Thread Claus Derlien
We are using 3 distinct ways of backup, first i use a perl script to make a harddisc copy of the whole database as a gzip'ed tarball universe is shutdown while this happens, since we are not a 24x7 shop there is no problems with that. 1. backup goes to tape 2. backup is ftp'ed to a windows syste

Re: [U2] the 4 letter word

2005-10-05 Thread Serguei
And the next thing GOTO supporters will try to prove to us is that the smoking is good for you? :) - Original Message - From: "Bruce Nichol" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 3:58 AM Subject: RE: [U2] the 4 letter word > Goo'day, Stuart, > > At 12:19 05/10/05 +1

Re: [U2] more serious notes on GOTO

2005-10-05 Thread Serguei
- Original Message - From: "Tony Gravagno" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Wednesday, October 05, 2005 4:54 AM Subject: RE: [U2] more serious notes on GOTO > Rather than completely re-writing client code to > my sense of what nice code looks like it's occasionally much easier to GOTO > t

Re: [U2] the 4 letter word

2005-10-05 Thread Serguei
Some people have really weird tastes. :) You can obviously smoke your cigar in the privacy of your home and use GOTO in the code nobody else will have to deal with. But you can't expect today either to smoke in a room where non-smokers work or program GOTO style in a team of programmers who try to