RE: [U2] Connecting to a remote Universe server in Universe Basic [ad]

Rick wrote: > Uv/Net is a separately priced product but probably worth it for your > situation. You only need it on the system that is accepting the > remote access, not the one that is initiating them. Since the discussion has shifted to external tools, I would be remiss if I didn't mention that

Re: [U2] Connecting to a remote Universe server in Universe Basic

On Apr 30, 2007, at 4:56 PM, Jason Lin wrote: That may not be an issue if all we need to do is query data on the remote server. Even if only one system is doing updating, locks are an issue for (at least) two reasons: The first is that that a group's structure (or for dynamic files, the

Re: [U2] Connecting to a remote Universe server in Universe Basic

Clifton Oliver wrote: You need to be careful!! If you do this and System A is updating information on System B and System B is updating the same files YOU HAVE NO SHARED LOCKING! That means that not only will READUs on one system not see the READUs on the other system, but they don't see each

Re: [U2] Connecting to a remote Universe server in Universe Basic

Jason, i use this technique because its run overnight and no-one (i hope) is using the remote servers The remote servers have a list of what is to be transferred which i update once each transfer has successfully completed. If the connection fails part way through then its just a matter of re

Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

Oops, yes, that is what I meant. Thanks. --dawn On 4/30/07, Lance J. Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: that is PI/pc not PI/Open that came from Cosmos... Dawn Wolthuis wrote: > Yes, I second (or third) that. PI/Open came from the Rev folks and had > nothing to do with UniVerse until it was

Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

that is PI/pc not PI/Open that came from Cosmos... Dawn Wolthuis wrote: Yes, I second (or third) that. PI/Open came from the Rev folks and had nothing to do with UniVerse until it was acquired it after Prime's demise. --dawn --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubsc

Re: [U2] Connecting to a remote Universe server in Universe Basic

Thanks, Peter and John. Your suggestions to use pointers for remote file system probably will work. One concern I have is the file locking. According to the Universe Admin manual, ALLOWNFS allows opening files on remote servers but no locks are maintained. That may not be an issue if all we nee

Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

Yes, I second (or third) that. PI/Open came from the Rev folks and had nothing to do with UniVerse until it was acquired it after Prime's demise. --dawn -- Dawn M. Wolthuis Tincat Group, Inc. Take and give some delight today On 4/30/07, Lance J. Andersen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: PI/pc was

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

Richard Nuckolls wrote: Thanks Lance, anytime. Ah, I had forgotten about PI/EXL. I could not believe that Universe had anything to do with the core of PI/Open. Hard to believe it has been 20 + years since PI/EXL... where did the time go -Rick On Apr 30, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Lance J. And

Re: [U2] Connecting to a remote Universe server in Universe Basic

You need to be careful!! If you do this and System A is updating information on System B and System B is updating the same files YOU HAVE NO SHARED LOCKING! That means that not only will READUs on one system not see the READUs on the other system, but they don't see each other's group locks. Yo

Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

PI/pc was a specialized version of Revelation. It was somewhat popular for a short period of time. Nope, PI/Open had no relationship to uniVerse. Jerry wrote: I also believe that the original PI for the PC was a Vmark implementation but it could have been Revelation. At the time when I le

Re: [U2] Connecting to a remote Universe server in Universe Basic

Jason, in the configuration editor ALLOWNFS = 1 then create a voc entry to the remove server I use a permanently mapped drive for each server and maintain the voc entries inside the basic programs. That way the same program can do multiple servers. jak - Original Message - From:

Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

I also believe that the original PI for the PC was a Vmark implementation but it could have been Revelation. At the time when I left Prime, in January 1990, PI-Open did not exist or a least it wasn't being offered yet. Jerry - Original Message - From: "Richard Nuckolls" <[EMAIL PROTECT

Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

My memory is a bit rusty, I think we released the first release of PI/Open in 1989. Richard Nuckolls wrote: Google sez: Vmark was founded in 1984; Unidata in 1986. I did not find a date for PI/Open. If I remember correctly Vmark built the first releases of PI on Unix for Prime. Highl

RE: [U2] Who Am I ? wIntegrate

I think this is what you're looking for. Try capturing the results of the tty command (UNIX). These are different if terminal (dev/pty##) or if wIntegrate. We use this style of testing for Datatel's UI so that wIntegrate gets the prompt and terminal gets a menu. I've trimmed it a touch to make i

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

Thanks Lance, Ah, I had forgotten about PI/EXL. I could not believe that Universe had anything to do with the core of PI/Open. -Rick On Apr 30, 2007, at 2:17 PM, Lance J. Andersen wrote: We rebranded a a version of uniVerse as PI/EXL prior to the release of PI/Open. PI/Open, was *not*

[U2] Who Am I ? wIntegrate

How do I tell UniBasic whether I am Dynamic Connect or wIntegrate? I want to prevent users from running a Dynamic Connect session if wIntegrate is required to run the application. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.

RE: [U2] Connecting to a remote Universe server in Universe Basic

Look in the manuals for remote file pointers, there is a way to do this without required UV/Net installed. It's a setting that just needs to be set in the config file on one of the servers and then you can create file pointers with a network path. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTE

[U2] Connecting to a remote Universe server in Universe Basic

Hi all. Does anyone know what is the easiest way for Universe BASIC programs to access or update records residing on another Universe server? In Visual Basic, this can be done easily using UniObject. But I am surprised that Universe BASIC itself does not seem to have the capability provided by U

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

We rebranded a a version of uniVerse as PI/EXL prior to the release of PI/Open. PI/Open, was *not* from vmark, it was created internally at Prime, with most of the work done at the Prime UK facility. Martin Phillips was part of the UK team. -lance Jerry wrote: If I remember correctly Vm

RE: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

All of this sounds right to me. I had jumped ship by this time. Tom Dodds -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Richard Nuckolls Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:18 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Re: [U2] Differences between UV a

Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

Google sez: Vmark was founded in 1984; Unidata in 1986. I did not find a date for PI/Open. If I remember correctly Vmark built the first releases of PI on Unix for Prime. Highly doubtful. Vmark was a direct competitor of Prime. The original Prime Information was written by Devcom in

Re: Spam:Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

As much as I hate to admit it, but I found some email from info-prime from 1994, and it was hosted on "eeyore" at USC then. I found a reference on the web to the list being hosted by Al Costanzo at Kean in 1991. I also found a reference to a USC ARPA list from 1987. Drew Jerry wrote: I al

RE: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

Hi, Jim Todhunter and Phil (can't remember his surname - not me although I did work at VMark later on) were behind the development of UV. There were also some people who came over from Prime of who Pete Simmonson (sp?) was one I believe. Mark Baldridge or Glenn Herbert can probably confirm this as

Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

On 4/30/07, Richard Nuckolls <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Okay, I have been sucked into this conversation: Ditto. > I would also > suggest that if the UniData folks were satisfied with PI/PI Open/ > UniVerse, > they would not have gone to the trouble of creating UniData. Given the little I

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

If I remember correctly Vmark built the first releases of PI on Unix for Prime. - Original Message - From: "Richard Nuckolls" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 2:18 PM Subject: Spam:Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD proprietary minicomputers of the time. It

Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

Okay, I have been sucked into this conversation: I would also suggest that if the UniData folks were satisfied with PI/PI Open/ UniVerse, they would not have gone to the trouble of creating UniData. The early versions of Unidata were poor cousins to PI/Open (imho). One of the Unidata engin

RE: [U2] [UV] Deleting a Printer

I assume you are using the MOTIF menu? Silly me... Of course the final screen is the same whether you use MOTIF or the regular menu... :) --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] [UV] Deleting a Printer

I assume you are using the MOTIF menu? You need to go to spooler...devices and select the printer to delete, then hit F10 to invoke the menu bar above the detail area... I prefer to use the UniAdmin gui for this stuff these days. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMA

RE: [U2] [UV] Deleting a Printer

Goto Devices then after getting to the printer entry press F10 to get a menu. Move to Action then Delete. Roy -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Brutzman, Bill Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 1:02 PM To: 'u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org' Subject:

[U2] You have a Friend(ster) at IBM

All, According to the SD Times <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, IBM set up 12 new social networking communities for developerWorks, setup like Friendster/MySpace. Some are available to delevoperWorks partners at www-128.ibm.com/developerworks/spaces .

RE: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

It's my understanding that the people that started VMark came from Prime and thus had a Prime Information background. Pete Simmons, one of the principle architects of UniVerse, was a software engineer at Prime Computers. I am sure they came away from Prime with more that a few tricks in their bag

RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

While it is true that Ferguson is on a path to SAP, the rollout is still several years out. Until then, we are still enhancing our current UniData applications. With the rollout dates still uncertain, and the off chance that the change will be cancelled, we aren't about to leave our user base fal

RE: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

> I was thinking someone else hosted it awhile before > Mikebut my memory may be having some multiple bit errors! I thought that was called a Backward Link Error === Norman Morgan <> [EMAIL PROTECTED] <> http://www.brake.com ==

Re: Spam:Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

I also have that feeling but I could be wrong after all that was shortly after Al Gore invented the internet. - Original Message - From: "Drew Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 12:13 PM Subject: Spam:Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse I was thinking so

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

As a matter of fact Vmark was located in one of Prime's old buildings on Speen Street. - Original Message - From: "Jeff Schasny" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 10:20 AM Subject: Spam:Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD Sorry Bill but thats not correct. Both

[U2] [UV] Deleting a Printer

We have a bunch of printers in the UniVerse (v10.1) spooler that I would like to delete. I do not see a menu option when I >LOGTO UV. Comments would be appreciated. --Bill --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

I was thinking someone else hosted it awhile before Mikebut my memory may be having some multiple bit errors! It's been a long time since the info-prime days. Drew Charles Barouch wrote: All, Mike O' Rear was the original founder of this list. He handed it to Clif. After a mere nin

RE: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Hi Karen, How was your weekend? Joe -Original Message- From: Karen Bessel [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:15 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse I'm not sure why Ferguson is moving. It may be the fact that they are a ch

[U2] Overquoting

All, Please trim the quotes to a minimum. It is very hard on slow connections, digest users, archives like Indexfocus, and on everyone's diskspace. - Charles Barouch, Moderator --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.or

RE: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

I've always thought that there was a difference of philosophy from Day 1 that underlied the 2 organizations that manifests itself in the software: Vmark/UV: "All things to all men, that I might by all means sell to some." (If you'll allow me to misquote St. Paul.) UniData: "Do it righ

RE: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

I second the motion! That was a motion, right? I'm SURE that was a motion! BobW -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stevenson, Charles Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:16 AM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Differences betw

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

All, Mike O' Rear was the original founder of this list. He handed it to Clif. After a mere nine years, Clif handed stewardship over to U2UG. - Chuck Jerry wrote: It was USC and the operator was Mike O' Rear. I hope I spelled that correctly. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listse

RE: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

I wonder if these answers could be turned into the start of a U2UG Knowledgebase entry. --- u2-users mailing list u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org To unsubscribe please visit http://listserver.u2ug.org/

RE: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

"Many little extended syntax elements are not supported: for example the standard substring delimiter formats Variable[2,3] is supported but not Variable[3] and Variable[",",2,1]. Lots of other subtle differences. " Variable[3] will work on UD if the point is to bring back the rightmost 3 charact

Re: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

Sorry Bill but thats not correct. Both UV and UD were developed around the same time by two separate companies, UV by Vmark and UD by (amazingly enough) Unidata. Both were written in C. UV was introduced (IIRC) about a year before UD. Both were Unix based implementations of Prime Computers (Pri

RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Give them time and they may well be stellar references for "stick with U2" A lot of these get off of U2 initiatives cost a lot of money only to revert back to U2 in the end. Tom Dodds -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Karen Bessel Sent: M

RE: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

The story that I remember is that UD was a major overhaul re-write of UV using the C language. At the time, UD got the benefit of some C technology. From some point of view, there has been some leap-frogging. At one time, Epicor was recommending UniData on Microsoft OS servers and Universe on U

Re: Spam:RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Anybody know if, I think it was, Alamo or Dollar car rental agencies are still on a Pick database. Which ever one it was, was one of Prime's customers. - Original Message - From: "Karen Bessel" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Monday, April 30, 2007 9:15 AM Subject: Spam:RE: [U2] Users

Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

HSBC in their investment banking division have been using Universe or it's predecessors for the last 20 odd years and look likely to do so for the next twenty .. "Liesse, Dave" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 27/04/2007 14:28 Mail Size: 4842 Please respond to u2-users

RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

I'm not sure why Ferguson is moving. It may be the fact that they are a child company of Wolesley (a UK based building supply giant) and a sister company of Stock Building Supply in Raleigh NC (they run Progress-based Trend) so I think it's a "consistency" issue. I worked at FEI for two years after

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

That was it! It's been a ln time! Jerry wrote: It was USC and the operator was Mike O' Rear. I hope I spelled that correctly. -- -- Drew Henderson "There are two types of people - Dir. f

RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Nestle has a global strategy no U2 developer has designed software to handle - I see logic for that move. Hughes got bought by Home Depot, so they go whereever they are taken - that change was inevitable whether a good move or not. But why would Ferguson be moving? Was the issue the application or

Re: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse

It was USC and the operator was Mike O' Rear. I hope I spelled that correctly. - Original Message - From: "Drew Henderson" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: Sent: Friday, April 27, 2007 5:15 PM Subject: Spam:Re: [U2] Users of UniVerse One of the schools out there (can't recall for sure if it

RE: [U2] Users of UniVerse

Nestle Waters is in the process of converting to an SAP solution, as part of the worldwide Nestle initiative known as Globe. Also SAP-bound are: Hughes Supply/Home Depot Supply of Orlando and Ferguson Enterprises of Newport News, VA. All three of these companies have spent millions of dollars (

[U2] Download 7.20 available

I am pleased to announce that version 7.20 of Download is available on our ftp site: ftp.cedarville.edu Download is a utility that uses LIST-style syntax to create output in a variety of formats (csv, tab, HTML, XML, etc.). Here are the changes implemented in version 7.20: * Add XML.GROUP.AT

RE: [U2] Differences between UV and UD

Adding to Brian Leach's and Bill Haskett's posts, and I fully support that we will not get into which is better for they are different due to their lineage as Charles stated. Structural Differences: High Availability - UniData's before and after image capabilities in the Recoverable File Syste