Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Robert Porter
After using LVM for 15 years, I'd never want to admin a system without it. It would be like going back in time. I can add/remove space, add/remove spindles, move which spindles an LVM is on. And the capabilities keep getting better. Add to that snapshots and what they do for backups... All with

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread George Gallen
I've also heard good things about the intel x25E drives (a bit too costly for us however). George > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- > boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Glen Batchelor > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 2:35 PM > To:

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Robert Porter
We do not. I can say since moving to a JFS type filesystem, we've not had a problem even when the power was pulled on a couple occasions by loss of dual Entergy power feeds and simultaneous UPS rooms failing. And those times I have restored files (usually to an alternate location for comparison

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Glen Batchelor
Look at EasyCo's MFT. I'm still trying to sort out drive-specific issues, but initial performance benchmarks are just awesome. We have 4 OCZ Vertex Turbo 60GB drives in softRAID level 5. The restructuring of the block writes also extends the life of the drives. -

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread George Gallen
This I will have to look into. Right now I'm deciding if I want to setup the partitions in an LVM or not. Thanks > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- > boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Porter > Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread George Gallen
I considered adding a few SSD to our server, but given they 'wear' out faster with increased writes, we dropped that idea. I've played with the tmpfs before. I have a script that creates the fs, then untars a tar file into it (a saved Universe Account). When I'm done, I run the other script to reta

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Baakkonen, Rodney A (Rod) 46K
Do you do a dbpause at all during this snapshot process? -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Robert Porter Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 1:09 PM To: U2 Users List Subject: Re: [U2] Universe and strippe

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Brutzman, Bill
I am filled with wonder for the salesman who sells striping of solid-state server drives. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of George Gallen Sent: Wednesday, April 28, 2010 12:47 PM To: U2 Users L

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Robert Porter
Many 'nix systems not longer require breaking mirrors for backups... We haven't broken a mirror for backups since the late 90s. HP-UX and Linux for example. A MUCH better option is using logical volumes (and yes, you can still mirror and stripe) as well and use filesystem snapshots to backup. A

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Jeff Schasny
In their UniVerse High Availability Executive Overview IBM suggested Raid 1 + 0 for production data partitions. See the page from the document here: http://www.schasny.com/stuff/ or the whole document here: http://www.schasny.com/stuff/ha.pdf George Gallen wrote: We are in the process of upg

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Dan Fitzgerald
In most unixes, you can do it at the OS level. > From: ggal...@wyanokegroup.com > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Date: Wed, 28 Apr 2010 12:27:34 -0500 > Subject: Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives > > interesting idea. Wonder if our RAID controller can do a 3 way mirror? > I'll have to c

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Anthony W. Youngman
In message <6d57ef06d84b5541af530227504bb68f5c4f4ef...@34093-mbx-c06.mex07a.mlsrvr.c om>, George Gallen writes I planned on doing this as well. There will be 3 system drives which I'm going to put some of our busy temp files. How much ram have you got? How big are your temp files? Have you g

Re: [U2] Connecting to Kettle

2010-04-28 Thread Brutzman, Bill
When I had trouble connecting ColdFusion to UniVerse, I wrote a little NetBeans Java program with the JDBC connection string info. Debugging this little test program helped with clarifying the pesky connection string details. --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserv

[U2] Connecting to Kettle

2010-04-28 Thread Shawn Hayes
Has anyone ever connected to the Pentaho Data Integration component (PDI, also called Kettle)?  I am trying to connect through Native JDBC connector.  I can't seem to get it to work.  'We act as though comfort and luxury were the chief requirements of life, when all that we need to make us happy

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Dave Laansma
Aix does all of this quite seamlessly. You can even configure file systems to use the inner, middle or outer parts of the drives. Mirroring has saved our butts several times, even within the past couple months. It is very comforting when you're reading your Monday morning email and discover a fa

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Dan Fitzgerald
If you create 2 stripes, will you have 2 disk controllers? If not, I don't see much difference between the two. I'd be more concerned with file sizing, and using indices rather than sequential searches, and other tuning techniques (read-ahead parameters, file caching, fs buffering, etc.). One c

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread George Gallen
interesting idea. Wonder if our RAID controller can do a 3 way mirror? I'll have to check into that. Guess I could always add a second drive array for the third mirror later on (the drives are cheaper, not cheap enough yet - we are using SAS drives for the data drives, and SATA for the system drive

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread George Gallen
I planned on doing this as well. There will be 3 system drives which I'm going to put some of our busy temp files. > -Original Message- > From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users- > boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of bradley.sch...@usbank.com > Sent: Wednesday, Ap

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread Dave Laansma
My opinion is to stripe all your data over as many drives as possible. Regarding mirroring, I would suggest a third mirror. The third mirror can be broken anytime during the day and used for backup, then 're-sync'd.' This configuration provides for minimum data loss due to (the number one cause

Re: [U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread bradley . schrag
I am not a disk guy, but striping has provided significant performance gains for. Separating the busiest files from everything else can also help a lot; it keeps your busiest files from dragging down the rest of the system/account. If you're on *nix, you can do some very creative things like is

[U2] Universe and stripped drives

2010-04-28 Thread George Gallen
We are in the process of upgrading our system. When we setup our current system, it was suggested we strip our data drives (5) into one, instead of having 5 separate drives, so it could pull more data at once. The new system will have 6 drives available for striping We were going to have 6 driv

Re: [U2] What a Long Strange Trip This Has Been!

2010-04-28 Thread Brian Leach
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