Re: [U2] Secrets was Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread David Jordan
Hi Will They won't look for video software on the Rocket site, they are going to look for solutions in trade journals and on the internet. That is where the ISVs are focusing their advertising. With the issue about finding solutions, make contact with a local sales person at Rocket or one o

Re: [U2] Secrets was Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread Wjhonson
Then you're not understanding me. I am not speaking at all of sites that use home-built systems. I am speaking of vendors, who sell application abc, to *others*, and yet their advertising is squelched by all the noise. If I have a client who is say a video rental store (they do still exist) and

Re: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code

2012-12-19 Thread Bobby Worley
Bernard, I am using BDT version 3.0.4.I right-clicked in the editor pane and went to Preferences there. I'm new to Eclipse so I'm still fumbling around, but i'm starting to figure things out - thanks! Bob On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 3:50 PM, Bernard Lubin < bernard.lu...@pentanasolutions.com>

Re: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code

2012-12-19 Thread Bobby Worley
Bill, Thank you for your helpful response. I found in Preferences > Text Editors - i was able to set spaces for tabs, and tab width. (and also show line numbers, which I was missing). So now I just need to find how I can set the first column to 6 instead of 1. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 12:19

Re: [U2] Secrets was Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread David Jordan
Hi Will What you are raising is the issue of internal customised U2 sites which are a dying breed. The new market is applications where people buy the applications, not the database. Vendors see no benefit from advertising that they use U2 where they get no financial benefit and they could

Re: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code

2012-12-19 Thread Bernard Lubin
Just tested this on our server and it is placing spaces instead of the tab character. You may have to change your tab setting. (Windows/Preference /Ant/Editor/Formatter) - uncheck the "Use tab char instead of spaces" checkbox I am using Version 3.0.3 of the BDT. I remember that there were so

Re: [U2] BDT - off topic question

2012-12-19 Thread Bobby Worley
We were on Universe 10.3 which did not work with Eclipse/BDT. On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 1:41 PM, doug wrote: > Could you not use it before you upgraded? Sorry about being off topic > > Dougc > > > > ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2u

Re: [U2] Secrets was Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread Wjhonson
Advantage to whom? It's not an advantage when a customer says they want to go to application xyz because their existing computer can't do something. It means that the MV world loses another customer. If we had a resource we could say, yes it can do that, here's the vendor who sells exactly

Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread David Jordan
The hard part is that databases have become commodity items. You don't buy a Mercedes because it has a bosh EFI unit under the bonnet. Now days people are buying applications for what they are not what is under the hood. Keeping that secret is a competitive advantage. David Jordan

Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread George Land
Several reasons Firstly to do that means getting people's permission, most of the ones who've given consent are on the Rocket website anyway, but there are a lot who aren't. Secondly many companies don't view it as a priority because it is not perceived by many that it will get them sales Thirdl

Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread Wjhonson
If you "know who to ask" why not publish the list of who sells what? -Original Message- From: George Land To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 12:43 pm Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith The only people really who sell the database without an application are the distributors

Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread George Land
The only people really who sell the database without an application are the distributors, everyone else is selling OEM with the database bundled in the application. As distributors we don't have a list but we know our own customers and if someone is after an application that is in a particular ver

Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread George Land
I first met Vinnie over a System Builder 5.1 application at the Home Office in Bootle, Liverpool, UK in 1988 or 89, so yes, he goes back with SB and MV a long time and he's been in the U2 team in Denver for many years - I'd guess 10 or 15. George > > > On 19/12/2012 17:02, "Daniel McGrath" wr

Re: [U2] BDT - off topic question

2012-12-19 Thread doug
Could you not use it before you upgraded?   Sorry about being  off topic Dougc Sent from Samsung tabletBobby Worley wrote:We finally upgraded Universe to 11.1.9 on AIX, so i am now starting to use BDT (Basic Developer Toolkit) on a daily basis. Does anyone know of a way to specify how the

Re: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code

2012-12-19 Thread Doug Averch
That Eclipse reference requires you to build a new format template because you cannot change the default or built-in templates. And that my friends is why I would highly not recommend that. Regards, Doug www.u2logic.com/tool.html "XLr8Editor for real U2 programmers" On Wed, Dec 19, 2012 at 11:19

Re: [U2] BDT - formatting basic code

2012-12-19 Thread Bill Brutzman
Googling... eclipse text format... yielded... among other things... http://www.wikihow.com/Change-the-Default-Format-Settings-in-Eclipse --Bill -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of Bobby Worley Sent: Wed

Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread Wjhonson
That's too bad. One of the main selling points of the Pick Hits books, was that a reseller of the OS, pitching a new hardware/support customer, could look up if any vendor had a "Video Store" solution, or a "Collections" solution -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath To

[U2] BDT - formatting basic code

2012-12-19 Thread Bobby Worley
We finally upgraded Universe to 11.1.9 on AIX, so i am now starting to use BDT (Basic Developer Toolkit) on a daily basis. Does anyone know of a way to specify how the code editor formats? Ctrl-Shift-F removes leading spaces, then indents lines using tab char(9) instead of spaces. Example: F

Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread Daniel McGrath
I'm not sure if there is a resource that would list them for you. While we do know internally who is using, we wouldn't advertise that without their explicit consent. In that regards, I do know we have at least 1 case study from a partner on our website http://u2.rocketsoftware.com/resources/ca

Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread Wjhonson
Speaking of System Builder, is there a resource of "applications being sold which were written using System Builder" ? -Original Message- From: Daniel McGrath To: U2 Users List Sent: Wed, Dec 19, 2012 9:02 am Subject: Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith Not sure if he emails here, but I'm s

Re: [U2] Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread Daniel McGrath
Not sure if he emails here, but I'm sure he lurks from time to time. Vinnie has been with the U2 team for a long time (joined as part of the SystemBuilder acquisition, I believe). Most of the SB folk will know him well. Regards, Dan -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.

[U2] Vinnie Smith

2012-12-19 Thread Wjhonson
This is the new head of the U2 Tools. I've never heard of him (not that I should). Does he post here? ___ U2-Users mailing list U2-Users@listserver.u2ug.org http://listserver.u2ug.org/mailman/listinfo/u2-users

Re: [U2] Wally Terhune [not-secure]

2012-12-19 Thread Hennessey, Mark F.
Live long and prosper, Mr. Terhune! -Original Message- From: u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org [mailto:u2-users-boun...@listserver.u2ug.org] On Behalf Of James Canale, Jr. Sent: Tuesday, December 18, 2012 11:47 AM To: 'U2 Users List' Subject: [U2] Wally Terhune Wally, Best wishes on