RE: [U2] Estimating Timelines {Unclassified}

2008-03-10 Thread Charles_Shaffer
Several years ago I worked for a Consulting firm that gave weekly classes on job estimation. What you are calling the client factor, they called the confidence factor. It is real and very useful. >>And then, you have the "client factor", as in >>* Work out a rough estimate >>*

RE: [U2] Estimating Timelines

2008-03-10 Thread Barry Rogen
PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tony G Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 4:35 PM To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org Subject: RE: [U2] Estimating Timelines I've been meaning to blog on this for a while, thanks for the opportunity: removepleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog/general/2008/03/estimates1.html > From: John

RE: [U2] Estimating Timelines

2008-03-09 Thread Tony G
I've been meaning to blog on this for a while, thanks for the opportunity: removepleaseNebula-RnD.com/blog/general/2008/03/estimates1.html > From: John Rodgers > Speaking for myself, ... today's > applications are so complex that all the dependencies are > impossible to forecast. It is not a que

RE: [U2] Estimating Timelines {Unclassified}

2008-03-09 Thread HENDERSON MIKE, MR
ot; * And we all have those 'Oh, maybe I forgot to mention ...' clients that definitely rate a "10" Yeah, I'm getting cynical in my old age Regards Mike -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Kevin King

Re: [U2] Estimating Timelines

2008-03-07 Thread Kevin King
I have to weigh in on this in support of everything stated so far. John is right, the first estimate is the one that "sticks" so that estimate has to factor in what is known about the problem, solution, and path at the time the estimate is requested, which is often before any real discovery has ta

RE: [U2] Estimating Timelines

2008-03-07 Thread Jerry Banker
March 07, 2008 4:01 PM > To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org > Subject: [U2] Estimating Timelines > > Snipped from Louie's contribution on the Include Wierdness > > - I have noticed that some programmers inflate their estimates by > 10 > times, just so they will

[U2] Estimating Timelines

2008-03-07 Thread John Rodgers
Snipped from Louie's contribution on the Include Wierdness - I have noticed that some programmers inflate their estimates by 10 times, just so they will look good finishing early. We have to be accurate, without lying. Speaking for myself, this is usually necessary because to