So if you're use to working with triggers, you know how to take the
trigger off the file, do the dirty deed, then put the trigger back on.

The bottom line of SOX is that someone "in authority" is ultimately
responsible for the accuracy of the financial reports that get
published, there-by giving stock holders/analysts/purchasers some kind
of assurance that the numbers they use to base their financial decisions
on are accurate.  All of this is to provide a "CYA" shield for those
that rely on others to provide them accurate information.

SOX is a good thing, in spite of the complexity it causes, but a bottom
line understanding needs to be propagated up the chain of command that
any programmer worth his/her salt, can get into the system, probably
without being detected, to change data or programs regardless of their
title or job duties.  SOX is a lock and locks are only there to keep the
honest people honest.

I was once given a task to change a selection of data so that it
includes two weeks instead of one week.  It took me three days to jump
through all the hoops to document changing a number from 7 to 14 in a
procedure record.

Guess we all have to decide how we react to more government
requirements.

BobW
 
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Glorfield
Sent: Friday, December 09, 2005 1:55 PM
To: u2-users@listserver.u2ug.org
Subject: [ ] - RE: [U2] SOX question (United States only, I believe) -
Found word(s) list error in the Text body

That why we have triggers on our basic program files and on the voc.  If

you do copy something from dev to live, it will show up in the logs.
Then 
your supervisor comes to you not in a very genial mood.  You then have
to 
end up doing the paperwork anyway.


Gordon J. Glorfield
Sr. Applications Developer
MAMSI (A UnitedHealth Company)
301-360-8839

[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 12/09/2005 02:38:04 PM:

[snip]
> The thing that always cracks me up is that all one has to do in a 
U2/PICK
> environment is to create q pointers to the main account from the test
> account.  You can look and even modify without having access to that 
account
> unless it is locked down by logon at the OS level, which I have yet to

find
> and as a consultant I have worked on several 'sox compliant' boxes.

> You can even compile a program in the test account, and then copy that

to
> the main account via q pointers as long as you copy the voc pointer as

well.
> You have to be sure you get the right path for the object code, but 
that's a
> piece of cake, and then the sox auditors would have absolutely no way
of
> finding out who did what if you just delete the q pointers when you're

done.

> Not that I would do such a thing (because I get paid by the hour and
the
> more complicated the procedure the longer it takes), but it is
possible.

> fwiw,

> Allen E. Elwood www.tortillafc.com
[snip]


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