Ah, yes. *That* one. When first shown that, my comment was,
"Congratulations. You've just reinvented RPG." :-)
On Apr 18, 2004, at 3:24, Matti Lamprhey wrote:
Surely "The Drumheller Trick" has to be where processing is applied to
records within the SELECT process itself, using I-descriptors. I
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Don't forget to mention "the Drumheller(? Drumhella?) Tric
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>Which
On Sun, 18 Apr 2004 09:01:28 +1000, you wrote:
>One of the reasons PI/open could not advance was that its source control system was
>written in MIDASPLUS. D'oh!
Wow. I remember patching EDM16 at our site. And reading the source
code to get an understanding of ISAM's. Truly an educational proc
se.
Matti
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Which "trick" was that? He had so many.
On Apr 17, 2004, at 15:08, Ross Ferris wrote:
> P
Which "trick" was that? He had so many.
On Apr 17, 2004, at 15:08, Ross Ferris wrote:
Probably. Never knew the guy ... but I thought the "trick" was kinda
neat, and I've still been known to use variants to this day :-)
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One of the reasons PI/open could not advance was that its source control system was
written in MIDASPLUS. D'oh!
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I don't remember seeing any three comments!
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Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2004 12:12:35 -0700
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> That would be John "60,000 line
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>That would be John "60,000 lines of PMA assemby code and only 3
>comments" Drumheller.
>
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>Regards,
I think 3 lines of comments is generous ;-)
When I went through that lovely set of code to document the PI error
messages I was wishing i could find the design spec, but I believe the
spec matched the number of comments in the Kernel (i.e. it did not exist).
Clifton Oliver wrote:
That wou
That would be John "60,000 lines of PMA assemby code and only 3
comments" Drumheller.
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On Apr 17, 2004, at 6:15, Ross Ferris wrote:
Don't forget to mention "the Drumheller(? Drumhella?) Trick !"
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Nononono -- how will we know what a PERI 157 is if you do that ???
;-)
JayJay
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Funny that... I
2004 4:45 AM
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>
>PI/Open-ers,
>I'd like to write a 'memorial' article for Database Trends
>acknowledging the PI and Prime contributions to the community as a
>whole. Would a few of you be willin
At 23:18 16/04/04, you wrote:
> Funny that... I was only thinking the other day that I should throw
> out my ICL 1900 COBOL and PLAN Manuals!!! :-)
Don;t start me on that nostalgia! I was an operating system developer with
ICL all those years ago.
Ah! Another Leo, eh??
Martin Phillips
Ladybridg
Goo'day, Martin,
At 18:53 16/04/04, you wrote:
I was one of the two technical managers for the development of PI/open.
It's always sad watching a product that you worked on be put into
retirement.
Perhaps I can now throw out my collection of PI/open manuals.
And stop telling QM users "That's how
>how many people on the list are still using PI Open. Anyone care to
>sound off?
We have two customers on PI/Open, both on EXL325 boxes. Both are
migrating away and will be off within a year (except that they
both told me that they'd be off each of the last three years).
Randy
+
Like when PI 5.4 was supposed to come out with Relational features and
then we backed them out of the release?
Results wrote:
PI/Open-ers,
I'd like to write a 'memorial' article for Database Trends
acknowledging the PI and Prime contributions to the community as a
whole. Would a few of yo
PI/Open-ers,
I'd like to write a 'memorial' article for Database Trends
acknowledging the PI and Prime contributions to the community as a
whole. Would a few of you be willing to write up some brief paragraphs
on things like:
"So I said to Mike, we'll call them "I Descriptors" and he said
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>
>
> I was at Hoskyns, did a bit of gin for George II+... or our version of
> it!
>
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> From: Martin Ph
I was at Hoskyns, did a bit of gin for George II+... or our version of
it!
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From: Martin Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 April 2004 14:19
To: U2 Users Discussion List
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> Funny that... I was only thinking the other day t
> Funny that... I was only thinking the other day that I should throw
> out my ICL 1900 COBOL and PLAN Manuals!!! :-)
Don;t start me on that nostalgia! I was an operating system developer with
ICL all those years ago.
Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northam
Martin,
I did the same recently. Not only did i retire my PI/Open docs but all
of my old PI material dating back to my days prior to working at Prime
when I was at Standard Data Systems, one of the original PI dealers .
However the memories will always be with me...
-Lance
Martin Phill
ge-
From: Martin Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 April 2004 09:54
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Subject: Re: PI Open is going away
I was one of the two technical managers for the development of PI/open.
It's always sad watching a product that you worked on be put into
retirement.
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Clif,
We're using PI/Open on our HP for a subset of our accounting
data.
We also have a copy of PI/Open 3.2 running on an old Prime/EXL - the
MIPS
based box that Prime used to sell! We may even have a
Funny that... I was only thinking the other day that I should throw out
my ICL 1900 COBOL and PLAN Manuals!!! :-)
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From: Martin Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: 16 April 2004 09:54
To: U2 Users Discussion List
Subject: Re: PI Open is going away
I was one of the
I was one of the two technical managers for the development of PI/open.
It's always sad watching a product that you worked on be put into
retirement.
Perhaps I can now throw out my collection of PI/open manuals.
Martin Phillips
Ladybridge Systems
17b Coldstream Lane, Hardingstone, Northampton NN4
Working for Prime in Copenhagen from 1984 to 1992 supporting PI I
certainly remember these international events.
It's fun to see the names popping up on this list, it brings along a lot
of fine memories, including that I owe Lance a beer next time we met. It
never happened, but the memories...
Th
st as exciting!!
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From: John Jenkins [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, 16 April 2004 10:53 a.m.
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I remember the Prime Information release 6 (and first official GCI) in
Copenhagen - Dennis Bel
I remember the Prime Information release 6 (and first official GCI) in
Copenhagen - Dennis Beldotti arranging?
Remember the fun !*! With !AMLC and it's handy way of writing to absolute
memory addresses (gosh - and you didn't want those disk drives did you
!?)
Was anyone else there? - Bent P
I was with Prime from 1980 to 1990, South-central Regional Support.
Specialized in PI.
Jerry
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Users Discussion List
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As one of the engineers of the original Prime INFORMATION, I am curious
how many people on the list are still using PI Open. Anyone care to
sound off?
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Clif
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services be held?
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> How true. I recall my days at Prime (82-84) f
Long, Inc.
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Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:08 PM
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As one of the engineers of the original Prime INFORMATION, I am curious how
many people on
How true. I recall my days at Prime (82-84) fondly
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From: Lance J. Andersen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, April 15, 2004 1:22 PM
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This is indeed an end of an era for those of us who worked on
Oliver
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As one of the engineers of the original Prime INFORMATION, I am curious
how many people on the list are still using PI Open. Anyone care to
sound off?
--
Regards,
Clif
This is indeed an end of an era for those of us who worked on the
development/sustaining and support of PI, PI Open/PI+
:-(
Clifton Oliver wrote:
As one of the engineers of the original Prime INFORMATION, I am
curious how many people on the list are still using PI Open. Anyone
care to sound o
1 piopen (oil & gas accounting) & 1 information (asset management)
client still running.
Clifton Oliver wrote:
As one of the engineers of the original Prime INFORMATION, I am curious
how many people on the list are still using PI Open. Anyone care to
sound off?
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As one of the engineers of the original Prime INFORMATION, I am curious
how many people on the list are still using PI Open. Anyone care to
sound off?
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Regards,
Clif
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The DB2 IMS Today newsletter has the following announcement.
U2 Product Lifecycle Announcement
Effective October 1, 2004, IBM will withdraw from marketing the
programs noted below. If available, their replacement products are
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