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From: Phill Whiteside <phi...@phillw.net>
Date: Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 7:54 PM
Subject: Re: [Off Topic] sound car
To: mk360 <mk.seventh...@gmail.com>


Hi mk,

had another chat on #ubuntu+1 with cwilli

(19:47:01) cwillu_at_work: phillw, get him to file a bug

Is what (s)he has asked that you do, so they can look into it. As per the
previous chat, they'd rather look into it and get a 'correct' fix, than
someone do a 'workaround'.

In the additional information part of the bug report, please put on that you
are filing the bug report as per a request from #ubuntu+1 you can also put
in the name of the person I was chatting to.

in your case, from the terminal it will be

ubuntu-bug alsa


To generate the bug report. You do need to have a launchpad login, but after
that, it is pretty much all automatic, it will take details from your
computer and attach it to the bug-report for the developers to look into.

Regards,

Phill.


On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 5:29 PM, mk360 <mk.seventh...@gmail.com> wrote:

>   First of all, thx for you'r interest, now I understand alsa vs pulse
> better :).
>
>   I tried with alsamixer seting all values at 100%, but nothing happens...
> The model is realtek ALC 880.
>
>   Thanks again.
>   mk.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Phill Whiteside" <phi...@phillw.net>
> To: "mk360" <mk.seventh...@gmail.com>
> Cc: <Ubuntu-accessibility@lists.ubuntu.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 16, 2010 1:47 PM
> Subject: Re: [Off Topic] sound car
>
>
>
>  Hi mk360,
>>
>> I popped onto #ubuntu+1 and asked there, below is the transcript of what
>> was
>> said:
>>
>> (16:33:43) phillw: Hi folks, will it be possible to run alsa based sound
>> cards in 10.04, I note it is going to be using pulse.
>> (16:33:54) cwillu_at_work: phillw, pulse uses alsa
>> *cwillu cwillu_at_work *
>> (16:34:32) phillw: cwillu_at_work: thanks, so I just compile the driver as
>> per the instructions and pulse will see it ?
>> (16:35:05) cwillu_at_work: phillw, back up a step, presumably the version
>> of
>> alsa that's already included isn't working?
>> (16:35:24) cwillu_at_work: but yes, that's how it should work
>> (16:35:55) phillw: I'm asking on behalf of one the people in assistive -
>> (16:35:57) phillw: I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my
>> ubuntu
>> becouse it was
>> (16:35:57) phillw: detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver
>> from the manufacturer,
>> (16:35:57) phillw: but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file
>> all
>> instructions are
>> (16:35:57) phillw: for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the
>> new
>> ubuntu systems
>> (16:35:57) phillw: with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid.
>> (16:36:16) cwillu_at_work: phillw, alsa was never replaced
>> (16:36:30) cwillu_at_work: alsa is not a competitor to pulse, they do
>> different things
>> (16:36:34) phillw: cwillu_at_work: it has instructions for doing it with
>> ubuntu, so the OP should be able to use them ?
>> (16:36:48) cwillu_at_work: alsa is what talks to the hardware, pulse is
>> what
>> talks to applications
>> (16:37:33) cwillu_at_work: re: volume levels, I assume you've already
>> checked alsamixer levels?
>> (16:38:32) phillw: I can suggest that the OP tries that, the manual
>> installation looks quite involed !!
>> (16:39:16) kklimonda: phillw: if the drivers has not been added to alsa
>> that
>> doesn't sound good..
>> (16:40:24) cwillu_at_work: kklimonda, there are drivers, it's just the
>> volume was too low
>> (16:42:05) phillw: cwillu_at_work: I'll ask the OP to check the alsamixer
>> levels. If they look okay, is there anything else to check before manually
>> installing it ?
>> (16:43:53) cwillu_at_work: installing a kernel driver from source should
>> be
>> just about the last possible thing you try. if it detects it at all, and
>> the
>> sound isn't actually distorted, then the driver probably isn't the issue.
>> If
>> it _is_, then you're far better off filing a bug so that it can get fixed
>> properly (to the extent of packaging that driver up ourselves if need be)
>> rather than just applying a workaround
>> (16:44:13) cwillu_at_work: encouraging workarounds just ensures that the
>> bugs don't actually get fixed
>> (16:44:23) phillw: .
>> (16:44:36) cwillu_at_work: so, start with the levels :p
>> (16:44:40) phillw: Okay, many thanks for your help, hopefully, I won't be
>> back ;-)
>>
>> Obviously, if the mixer level does not help, please re-email and I'll have
>> another chat with the people in #ubuntu+1
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Phill.
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 16, 2010 at 3:51 PM, mk360 <mk.seventh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>    Hi,
>>>
>>>   I'm trying to configure an audio sound card on my ubuntu becouse it was
>>> detected but sounds really low. I downloaded a driver from the
>>> manufacturer,
>>> but I've some doubts. The thing is on the readme file all instructions
>>> are
>>> for alsa, and I don't know if it is aplicable for the new ubuntu systems
>>> with pulse. my configurations are for karmic or lucid.
>>>
>>>   Here is the readme file:
>>> The source code copy from www.alsa-project.org. ver:5.14
>>>
>>> Linux Source Code for ALC audio codec
>>>
>>> Support Codec list:
>>>
>>> ====AC97 Codec=====
>>>
>>> ALC100,100P
>>>
>>> ALC200,200P
>>>
>>> ALC650D
>>>
>>> ALC650E
>>>
>>> ALC650F
>>>
>>> ALC650
>>>
>>> ALC655
>>>
>>> ALC653
>>>
>>> ALC658
>>>
>>> ALC658D
>>>
>>> ALC850
>>>
>>> ALC101
>>>
>>> ALC202
>>>
>>> ALC250
>>>
>>> ALC203
>>>
>>> ====HD Audio codec ====
>>>
>>> ALC260
>>>
>>> ALC262
>>>
>>> ALC267
>>>
>>> ALC268
>>>
>>> ALC259
>>>
>>> ALC269
>>>
>>> ALC270
>>>
>>> ALC272
>>>
>>> ALC275
>>>
>>> ALC660
>>>
>>> ALC660VD
>>>
>>> ALC661
>>>
>>> ALC662
>>>
>>> ALC663
>>>
>>> ALC665
>>>
>>> ALC670
>>>
>>> ALC861
>>>
>>> ALC861VD
>>>
>>> ALC880
>>>
>>> ALC882
>>>
>>> ALC883
>>>
>>> ALC885
>>>
>>> ALC888
>>>
>>> ALC889A
>>>
>>> ALC892
>>>
>>> Installation:
>>>
>>> This Source Code is from www.alsa-project.org.
>>>
>>> For OS installation, please remember add the Development tool kit.
>>>
>>> For driver installation, please follow below steps.
>>>
>>> Automatic install: (Recommend RedHat distribution)
>>>
>>> execute
>>>
>>> ./install
>>>
>>> Note: Ubuntu OS, please use manual install.
>>>
>>> Run commands need to add sudo at first words.
>>>
>>> Manual install:
>>>
>>> Step 1. unzip source code
>>>
>>> tar xfvj alsa-driver-1.0.xx.tar.bz2
>>>
>>> Step 2. Turn on sound support from kernel config
>>>
>>> (soundcore module, default turn on)
>>>
>>> Step 3. Complied source code
>>>
>>> a. cd alsa-driver-1.0.xx
>>>
>>> b. ./configure (--with-cards=hda-intel)<= for HDA options
>>>
>>> c. make
>>>
>>> d. make install
>>>
>>> e. alsaconf
>>>
>>> Step 4. Edit your /etc/modules.conf or conf.modules depending on the
>>> distribution
>>>
>>> (Please refer to the attached modules.conf)
>>>
>>>
>>> snd-xxxx is the card ID.
>>>
>>> -- Azalia controller --ALC880 ALC882 ALC260 ALC262 ALC883 ALC885 ALC888
>>>
>>> --- Intel ICH6 ICH7 ---------
>>>
>>> snd-hda-intel
>>>
>>> -- AC97 controller --ALC655 ALC650 ALC250 ALC255
>>>
>>> --- Intel ICH6 ICH7 , SiS 7012 and NVidia----------
>>>
>>> snd-intel8x0
>>>
>>> --- Via8233 Via686a -------------------------------
>>>
>>> snd-via82xx
>>>
>>> --- ATI Chipset -------------------------------
>>>
>>> snd-atiixp
>>>
>>> Copy and paste this to the bottom of your /etc/modules.conf or
>>> /etc/modprobe.conf file.
>>>
>>> # ALSA portion
>>>
>>> alias char-major-116 snd
>>>
>>> alias snd-card-0 snd-xxxx
>>>
>>> # OSS/Free portion
>>>
>>> alias char-major-14 soundcore
>>>
>>> alias sound-slot-0 snd-card-0
>>>
>>> # card #1
>>>
>>> alias sound-service-0-0 snd-mixer-oss
>>>
>>> alias sound-service-0-1 snd-seq-oss
>>>
>>> alias sound-service-0-3 snd-pcm-oss
>>>
>>> alias sound-service-0-8 snd-seq-oss
>>>
>>> alias sound-service-0-12 snd-pcm-oss
>>>
>>> Step 5. reboot your machine
>>>
>>> Step 6. Use the alsamixer the disable mute (All audio line default is
>>> mute)
>>>
>>> Must to compile and to install the ALSA library and utility. (Use
>>> automatic
>>> install is already install)
>>>
>>> excute alsamixer
>>>
>>> Note: 1. The most detail information, can refer the
>>> alsa-kernel/Documenttation/ALSA-Configuration.txt in the
>>> azx-021705.tar.bz2.
>>>
>>> 2. Kernel Version must be 2.6 or later.
>>>
>>> 3. All mixer channels are muted by default. You must use a native
>>>
>>> or OSS mixer program to unmute appropriate channels.
>>>
>>> 4. If can not compile the source code, try to rename the
>>> /usr/src/linux-2.x -> /usr/src/linux.
>>>
>>> 5. The driver added to support the SPDIF functoin.
>>>
>>> 6. a. You can download the alsa-lib-1.0.x and alsa-utils-1.0.x form the
>>> www.alsa-project.org, then unzip and install them.
>>>
>>> b. Suggest use "alsamixer" to control mixer function.
>>>
>>> c. Used "alsaconf" can autodetect which drive you need to install (step
>>> 4).
>>>
>>> 7. SUSE Distribution must install the ncurses package.
>>>
>>>
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>>
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