[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Flegg
See also #91873 for a patch to ignore the "tray open" error when trying to close the tray. -- Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/37785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct sub

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-10-04 Thread Andrew Flegg
An addendum: the patch works for me. -- eject -T doesn't close the tray https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/91873 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.u

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This isn't just a Mac issue, I see the same behaviour on X86_64 (Linux serenity 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Aug 30 23:16:15 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ eject -v -T eject: using default device `cdrom' eject: device name is `cdrom' eject: expanded name is `/dev/cdrom' eject: `/d

[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This also affects non-Apple hardware using an eject key. gnome-volume-manager no longer (in Feisty) supports the eject_command key, and gnome-mount is hardcoded to use "eject". However, it doesn't specify a path. Therefore a workaround is to have an executable shell script in your path ahead of /

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly..

2008-04-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
@Frédéric Grosshans: It's a mis-feature at best. Ubuntu isn't OS X, and Apple sell these keyboards as any other keyboard manufacturer. They are Apple keyboards, not Mac keyboards; therefore trying to enforce they work like Macs - when they might well not be being used on Mac hardware, and definite

[Bug 201711] Re: Apple fn key behavior isn't consistent with what's expected

2008-04-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
Frédéric is creating links between the multiple issues. There's also some strong arguments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/201887 for why the current default behaviour is wrong. I wrote there, in support of the same arguments eloquently made by Tommy, Luke, Nicolas and Raph

[Bug 211016] Re: Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound

2008-09-12 Thread Andrew Flegg
Can confirm the patch above does at least result in music from Rhythmbox and sound from Totem coming out of a Windows PulseAudio server. This may not mean it's the right patch, though - but WORKSFORME. -- Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211016 You r

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
The proposed updates do, indeed, stop the keyboard going into laptop mode when the numlock/clear key is pressed. It's still sub-optimal, though: * The function keys only work when 'fn' is held down. The pb_fnmode value change corrects this, but this *should* be the default: without 'fn' held down

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
> This isn't a normal PC keyboard and we shouldn't try to make it one. As has been pointed out above, though: the primary OS for this keyboard is OS X. Apps for OS X use function keys a *lot* less than Linux apps in terms of keyboard shortcuts etc. This is argument #1 - from a user- centred design

[Bug 236975] Re: WUBI Ubuntu 8.04, access permissions on "/host" folder cannot be changed

2008-09-01 Thread Andrew Flegg
A slightly neater way, rather than modifying root_locale is to add a new root_opts file: 1) Create "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/root_opts" containing "export ROOTFLAGS" <[ this is the root cause of step 2 not working alone] 2) Append "rootflags=gid=115,fmask=113,dmask=002" to the end of

[Bug 211016] Re: Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound

2008-09-12 Thread Andrew Flegg
Can confirm the patch above does at least result in music from Rhythmbox and sound from Totem coming out of a Windows PulseAudio server. This may not mean it's the right patch, though - but WORKSFORME. -- Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211016 You r

[Bug 201711] Re: Apple fn key behavior isn't consistent with what's expected

2008-04-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
Frédéric is creating links between the multiple issues. There's also some strong arguments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/201887 for why the current default behaviour is wrong. I wrote there, in support of the same arguments eloquently made by Tommy, Luke, Nicolas and Raph

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
The proposed updates do, indeed, stop the keyboard going into laptop mode when the numlock/clear key is pressed. It's still sub-optimal, though: * The function keys only work when 'fn' is held down. The pb_fnmode value change corrects this, but this *should* be the default: without 'fn' held down

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
> This isn't a normal PC keyboard and we shouldn't try to make it one. As has been pointed out above, though: the primary OS for this keyboard is OS X. Apps for OS X use function keys a *lot* less than Linux apps in terms of keyboard shortcuts etc. This is argument #1 - from a user- centred design

[Bug 236975] Re: WUBI Ubuntu 8.04, access permissions on "/host" folder cannot be changed

2008-09-01 Thread Andrew Flegg
A slightly neater way, rather than modifying root_locale is to add a new root_opts file: 1) Create "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/root_opts" containing "export ROOTFLAGS" <[ this is the root cause of step 2 not working alone] 2) Append "rootflags=gid=115,fmask=113,dmask=002" to the end of

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly..

2008-04-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
@Frédéric Grosshans: It's a mis-feature at best. Ubuntu isn't OS X, and Apple sell these keyboards as any other keyboard manufacturer. They are Apple keyboards, not Mac keyboards; therefore trying to enforce they work like Macs - when they might well not be being used on Mac hardware, and definite

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This isn't just a Mac issue, I see the same behaviour on X86_64 (Linux serenity 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Aug 30 23:16:15 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ eject -v -T eject: using default device `cdrom' eject: device name is `cdrom' eject: expanded name is `/dev/cdrom' eject: `/d

[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This also affects non-Apple hardware using an eject key. gnome-volume-manager no longer (in Feisty) supports the eject_command key, and gnome-mount is hardcoded to use "eject". However, it doesn't specify a path. Therefore a workaround is to have an executable shell script in your path ahead of /

[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Flegg
See also #91873 for a patch to ignore the "tray open" error when trying to close the tray. -- Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/37785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct sub

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-10-04 Thread Andrew Flegg
An addendum: the patch works for me. -- eject -T doesn't close the tray https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/91873 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.u

[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Flegg
See also #91873 for a patch to ignore the "tray open" error when trying to close the tray. -- Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/37785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct sub

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-10-04 Thread Andrew Flegg
An addendum: the patch works for me. -- eject -T doesn't close the tray https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/91873 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.u

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This isn't just a Mac issue, I see the same behaviour on X86_64 (Linux serenity 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Aug 30 23:16:15 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ eject -v -T eject: using default device `cdrom' eject: device name is `cdrom' eject: expanded name is `/dev/cdrom' eject: `/d

[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This also affects non-Apple hardware using an eject key. gnome-volume-manager no longer (in Feisty) supports the eject_command key, and gnome-mount is hardcoded to use "eject". However, it doesn't specify a path. Therefore a workaround is to have an executable shell script in your path ahead of /

[Bug 211016] Re: Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound

2008-09-12 Thread Andrew Flegg
Can confirm the patch above does at least result in music from Rhythmbox and sound from Totem coming out of a Windows PulseAudio server. This may not mean it's the right patch, though - but WORKSFORME. -- Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211016 You r

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
The proposed updates do, indeed, stop the keyboard going into laptop mode when the numlock/clear key is pressed. It's still sub-optimal, though: * The function keys only work when 'fn' is held down. The pb_fnmode value change corrects this, but this *should* be the default: without 'fn' held down

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
> This isn't a normal PC keyboard and we shouldn't try to make it one. As has been pointed out above, though: the primary OS for this keyboard is OS X. Apps for OS X use function keys a *lot* less than Linux apps in terms of keyboard shortcuts etc. This is argument #1 - from a user- centred design

[Bug 236975] Re: WUBI Ubuntu 8.04, access permissions on "/host" folder cannot be changed

2008-09-01 Thread Andrew Flegg
A slightly neater way, rather than modifying root_locale is to add a new root_opts file: 1) Create "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/root_opts" containing "export ROOTFLAGS" <[ this is the root cause of step 2 not working alone] 2) Append "rootflags=gid=115,fmask=113,dmask=002" to the end of

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly..

2008-04-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
@Frédéric Grosshans: It's a mis-feature at best. Ubuntu isn't OS X, and Apple sell these keyboards as any other keyboard manufacturer. They are Apple keyboards, not Mac keyboards; therefore trying to enforce they work like Macs - when they might well not be being used on Mac hardware, and definite

[Bug 201711] Re: Apple fn key behavior isn't consistent with what's expected

2008-04-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
Frédéric is creating links between the multiple issues. There's also some strong arguments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/201887 for why the current default behaviour is wrong. I wrote there, in support of the same arguments eloquently made by Tommy, Luke, Nicolas and Raph

[Bug 211016] Re: Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound

2008-09-12 Thread Andrew Flegg
Can confirm the patch above does at least result in music from Rhythmbox and sound from Totem coming out of a Windows PulseAudio server. This may not mean it's the right patch, though - but WORKSFORME. -- Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211016 You r

[Bug 211016] Re: Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound

2008-09-12 Thread Andrew Flegg
Can confirm the patch above does at least result in music from Rhythmbox and sound from Totem coming out of a Windows PulseAudio server. This may not mean it's the right patch, though - but WORKSFORME. -- Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211016 You r

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
The proposed updates do, indeed, stop the keyboard going into laptop mode when the numlock/clear key is pressed. It's still sub-optimal, though: * The function keys only work when 'fn' is held down. The pb_fnmode value change corrects this, but this *should* be the default: without 'fn' held down

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
> This isn't a normal PC keyboard and we shouldn't try to make it one. As has been pointed out above, though: the primary OS for this keyboard is OS X. Apps for OS X use function keys a *lot* less than Linux apps in terms of keyboard shortcuts etc. This is argument #1 - from a user- centred design

[Bug 236975] Re: WUBI Ubuntu 8.04, access permissions on "/host" folder cannot be changed

2008-09-01 Thread Andrew Flegg
A slightly neater way, rather than modifying root_locale is to add a new root_opts file: 1) Create "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/root_opts" containing "export ROOTFLAGS" <[ this is the root cause of step 2 not working alone] 2) Append "rootflags=gid=115,fmask=113,dmask=002" to the end of

[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Flegg
See also #91873 for a patch to ignore the "tray open" error when trying to close the tray. -- Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/37785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct sub

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-10-04 Thread Andrew Flegg
An addendum: the patch works for me. -- eject -T doesn't close the tray https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/91873 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.u

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This isn't just a Mac issue, I see the same behaviour on X86_64 (Linux serenity 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Aug 30 23:16:15 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ eject -v -T eject: using default device `cdrom' eject: device name is `cdrom' eject: expanded name is `/dev/cdrom' eject: `/d

[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This also affects non-Apple hardware using an eject key. gnome-volume-manager no longer (in Feisty) supports the eject_command key, and gnome-mount is hardcoded to use "eject". However, it doesn't specify a path. Therefore a workaround is to have an executable shell script in your path ahead of /

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly..

2008-04-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
@Frédéric Grosshans: It's a mis-feature at best. Ubuntu isn't OS X, and Apple sell these keyboards as any other keyboard manufacturer. They are Apple keyboards, not Mac keyboards; therefore trying to enforce they work like Macs - when they might well not be being used on Mac hardware, and definite

[Bug 201711] Re: Apple fn key behavior isn't consistent with what's expected

2008-04-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
Frédéric is creating links between the multiple issues. There's also some strong arguments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/201887 for why the current default behaviour is wrong. I wrote there, in support of the same arguments eloquently made by Tommy, Luke, Nicolas and Raph

[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Flegg
See also #91873 for a patch to ignore the "tray open" error when trying to close the tray. -- Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/37785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct sub

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-10-04 Thread Andrew Flegg
An addendum: the patch works for me. -- eject -T doesn't close the tray https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/91873 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.u

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
The proposed updates do, indeed, stop the keyboard going into laptop mode when the numlock/clear key is pressed. It's still sub-optimal, though: * The function keys only work when 'fn' is held down. The pb_fnmode value change corrects this, but this *should* be the default: without 'fn' held down

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
> This isn't a normal PC keyboard and we shouldn't try to make it one. As has been pointed out above, though: the primary OS for this keyboard is OS X. Apps for OS X use function keys a *lot* less than Linux apps in terms of keyboard shortcuts etc. This is argument #1 - from a user- centred design

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly..

2008-04-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
@Frédéric Grosshans: It's a mis-feature at best. Ubuntu isn't OS X, and Apple sell these keyboards as any other keyboard manufacturer. They are Apple keyboards, not Mac keyboards; therefore trying to enforce they work like Macs - when they might well not be being used on Mac hardware, and definite

[Bug 201711] Re: Apple fn key behavior isn't consistent with what's expected

2008-04-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
Frédéric is creating links between the multiple issues. There's also some strong arguments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/201887 for why the current default behaviour is wrong. I wrote there, in support of the same arguments eloquently made by Tommy, Luke, Nicolas and Raph

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This isn't just a Mac issue, I see the same behaviour on X86_64 (Linux serenity 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Aug 30 23:16:15 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ eject -v -T eject: using default device `cdrom' eject: device name is `cdrom' eject: expanded name is `/dev/cdrom' eject: `/d

[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This also affects non-Apple hardware using an eject key. gnome-volume-manager no longer (in Feisty) supports the eject_command key, and gnome-mount is hardcoded to use "eject". However, it doesn't specify a path. Therefore a workaround is to have an executable shell script in your path ahead of /

[Bug 236975] Re: WUBI Ubuntu 8.04, access permissions on "/host" folder cannot be changed

2008-09-01 Thread Andrew Flegg
A slightly neater way, rather than modifying root_locale is to add a new root_opts file: 1) Create "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/root_opts" containing "export ROOTFLAGS" <[ this is the root cause of step 2 not working alone] 2) Append "rootflags=gid=115,fmask=113,dmask=002" to the end of

[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-10-02 Thread Andrew Flegg
See also #91873 for a patch to ignore the "tray open" error when trying to close the tray. -- Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/37785 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct sub

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-10-04 Thread Andrew Flegg
An addendum: the patch works for me. -- eject -T doesn't close the tray https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/91873 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is the bug contact for Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.u

[Bug 91873] Re: eject -T doesn't close the tray

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This isn't just a Mac issue, I see the same behaviour on X86_64 (Linux serenity 2.6.20-16-generic #2 SMP Thu Aug 30 23:16:15 UTC 2007 x86_64 GNU/Linux) [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ eject -v -T eject: using default device `cdrom' eject: device name is `cdrom' eject: expanded name is `/dev/cdrom' eject: `/d

[Bug 37785] Re: Apple media keyboard eject key only opens cd tray, doesn't close it

2007-09-08 Thread Andrew Flegg
This also affects non-Apple hardware using an eject key. gnome-volume-manager no longer (in Feisty) supports the eject_command key, and gnome-mount is hardcoded to use "eject". However, it doesn't specify a path. Therefore a workaround is to have an executable shell script in your path ahead of /

[Bug 211016] Re: Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound

2008-09-12 Thread Andrew Flegg
Can confirm the patch above does at least result in music from Rhythmbox and sound from Totem coming out of a Windows PulseAudio server. This may not mean it's the right patch, though - but WORKSFORME. -- Gstreamer with Pulseaudio on Network : no Sound https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211016 You r

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
The proposed updates do, indeed, stop the keyboard going into laptop mode when the numlock/clear key is pressed. It's still sub-optimal, though: * The function keys only work when 'fn' is held down. The pb_fnmode value change corrects this, but this *should* be the default: without 'fn' held down

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly when pressing the "numlock" key

2008-09-27 Thread Andrew Flegg
> This isn't a normal PC keyboard and we shouldn't try to make it one. As has been pointed out above, though: the primary OS for this keyboard is OS X. Apps for OS X use function keys a *lot* less than Linux apps in terms of keyboard shortcuts etc. This is argument #1 - from a user- centred design

[Bug 236975] Re: WUBI Ubuntu 8.04, access permissions on "/host" folder cannot be changed

2008-09-01 Thread Andrew Flegg
A slightly neater way, rather than modifying root_locale is to add a new root_opts file: 1) Create "/usr/share/initramfs-tools/conf.d/root_opts" containing "export ROOTFLAGS" <[ this is the root cause of step 2 not working alone] 2) Append "rootflags=gid=115,fmask=113,dmask=002" to the end of

[Bug 201887] Re: Slim USB Apple Keyboard not working correctly..

2008-04-29 Thread Andrew Flegg
@Frédéric Grosshans: It's a mis-feature at best. Ubuntu isn't OS X, and Apple sell these keyboards as any other keyboard manufacturer. They are Apple keyboards, not Mac keyboards; therefore trying to enforce they work like Macs - when they might well not be being used on Mac hardware, and definite

[Bug 201711] Re: Apple fn key behavior isn't consistent with what's expected

2008-04-30 Thread Andrew Flegg
Frédéric is creating links between the multiple issues. There's also some strong arguments in https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/201887 for why the current default behaviour is wrong. I wrote there, in support of the same arguments eloquently made by Tommy, Luke, Nicolas and Raph