[Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-20 Thread Dragonlord
kafpauzo said: People tend to interpret the defaults as a very strong recommendation. When people are uncertain about the consequences of touching a setting, many will see the default as a recommendation that you should disobey only if you have a really compelling reason, and only if you have

[Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-20 Thread Dragonlord
I hate to say this here, but Mark Shuttleworth is a businessman, a company leader, not exactly what I would call a free software leader. And that's fine! But we need to know what we're talking about. Even launchpad is not free software (yet), one wouldn't expect from a free software leader to

[Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-18 Thread Dragonlord
Mark, I do think that Chip Bennett has a strong point. In this spirit, the next step would be mp3 codecs already installed, with a notification that you can uninstall them if you don't agree with the terms of use. After that, maybe full proprietary pieces of software, again, with the option to

[Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-15 Thread Dragonlord
Here's an idea if you absolutely want to keep firefox under these circumstances (which I'm against), present the EULA on installation (or during upgrade), with a note that, if you don't accept you can use a renamed version of firefox. Then, if someone clicks I don't agree, firefox is not installed

[Bug 269656] Re: AN IRRELEVANT LICENSE IS PRESENTED TO YOU FREE-OF-CHARGE ON STARTUP

2008-09-15 Thread Dragonlord
This striked me as the right time to re-read the Ubuntu philosophy as written on ubuntu.com: http://www.ubuntu.com/community/ubuntustory/philosophy All of the text is interesting in relation to this conversation, for example: For Ubuntu, the 'free' in 'free software' is used primarily in