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On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 12:15, Tom <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> If people really want the opposite of what is on offer then we should
> listen, smile smugly and walk away. As keeps being pointed out many people
> new
> into the linux-world just want a free version of Windows complete with al
What!! A competent (or higher) computer person lacking
communication-with-people
skills! Surely not! lol.
Yeh, a big +1 from me on all of that :)
Btw i heard there are 10 sorts of people in the world. Those that can grok in
binary and those that can't.
Ciao, and regards from
Tom :)
Ps sor
On Monday 02 August 2010 12:15:25 you wrote:
> > Oh no, wait, they already invented that shit: it's called Windows.
> > Bugger! Long live Bug #1!
> > P.S. Can I change the bug status to WON'T FIX? Let's just be honest with
> > ourselves...
I see people keep
ooops, i hadn't noticed this bit at the bottom
> Oh no, wait, they already invented that shit: it's called Windows. Bugger!
> Long live Bug #1!
> P.S. Can I change the bug status to WON'T FIX? Let's just be honest with
> ourselves...
Now i am really embarra
or your IT service
partner or whoever.
> Oh no, wait, they already invented that shit: it's called Windows. Bugger!
> Long live Bug #1!
> P.S. Can I change the bug status to WON'T FIX? Let's just be honest with
> ourselves...
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> "Time is money" implies
>
> Time = (some constant) x money
No. It implies:
Money = Market value x Time.
Or that Time=Money/Market value.
> We already know that velocity = time x distance so it would make just as much
> sense (cents?) to say that velocity = money.
Applied in the same co
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"Time is money" implies
Time = (some constant) x money
We already know that velocity = time x distance so it would make just as much
sense (cents?) to say that velocity = money. Also my grandma used to say that
"A stitch in time saves nine". So logically we can deduce that she must have
b
> Again, this is not true.
> "In order to promote Ubuntu money is needed"
> Really?? This really depends on how promotion is approached.
>
> There are many ways of promoting something that do not cost money. Also many
> businesses run on linux and in the normal course of promoting their ow
Promoting Ubuntu is the least of the problems. Money is needed to
engineer the system in the fist place. Some people have mentioned Apple
and that is a good example. Apple controls and finances OS X because
they have a business model to support it. Perhaps that's why OS X is a
nice, usable operatin
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at of the operating system itself...
Oh no, wait, they already invented that shit: it's called Windows. Bugger!
Long live Bug #1!
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Again, this is not true.
"In order to promote Ubuntu money is needed"
Really?? This really depends on how promotion is approached.
There are many ways of promoting something that do not cost money. Also many
businesses run on linux and in the normal course of promoting their own
business
I've never seen an ad promoting Wikipedia.
I've never seen an ad promoting the World Wide Web.
Market share can be gained through mind share, which may or may not
require money.
Some seed money may be needed, but we've got that.
> A business model is how to make money. What you state is the goal,
> The business model can be considered similar to Wikipedia. Global
> collaboration for the benefit of everyone. The creation of a valuable
> resource for humanity.
A business model is how to make money. What you state is the goal, not the
business model. In order to promote Ubuntu money is neede
> I think there is a business model that exist. If I'm not mistaken it's
> close to Google's Android OS. Again, canonical takes ownership of
> marketing. What WE can do is support it, just like how Apple' s Mac fan
> base. Early adopters like us should continue to promote Ubuntu.
And that bu
The business model can be considered similar to Wikipedia. Global
collaboration for the benefit of everyone. The creation of a valuable
resource for humanity.
Here are some questions for you to consider:
Does mathematics have a viable business model? Do you still use it? Is
it of benefit to you? A
e
pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
benefi
> As long as Ubuntu users seem more interested in conspiracy theories than
> in fixing what's so evidently wrong in Ubuntu, this bug will never be
> fixed.
And what is that?
>
> I leave a couple of hints:
>
> - No viable business model: find one before thinking anything else
I totally agree here
hould happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
> Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
> benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time pas
odyssey wrote:
> - No viable business model: find one before thinking anything else
I an many other have one, thank you.
> - No standard, stable desktop platform: think how to build one before
doing anything else. And no, LTS releases are not that, in case someone
is very confused.
Totally lost
the operating system itself...
Oh no, wait, they already invented that shit: it's called Windows. Bugger!
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Business model?
We should charge money for a broken system with inherent flaws? Then we can
berate users for not buying a newer broken system and force people into buying
something else that doesn't work to fix problems introduced by the first thing.
Blame the user and charge them a lot for
Yes, having choices holds back Ubuntu (and other versions of linux).
Just as everyone needs to be told which clothes to wear and what food to eat.
People don't like to have to decide whether to eat vanilla or chocolate
ice-cream so the choices should be removed??
Perhaps if there were defau
As long as Ubuntu users seem more interested in conspiracy theories than
in fixing what's so evidently wrong in Ubuntu, this bug will never be
fixed.
I leave a couple of hints:
- No viable business model: find one before thinking anything else
- No standard, stable desktop platform: think how to
On Sat, Jul 24, 2010 at 10:50, lelamal <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> http://pollycoke.org/pollycokers/paolo/socialbox/6121
> Today I found this link in this nice Italian Website. It contains a link that
> sort of fits this exchange nicely. Follow it, and the links within the article
> at PC Pr
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Today I found this link in this nice Italian Website. It contains a link that
sort of fits this exchange nicely. Follow it, and the links within the article
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We are in a hurry! Do we want our children or their children to have to
ship their money to the Monopoly forever?
I sure don't.
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Lets not forget that although the information is bad and misleading it is at
least getting the name out there into the mainstream from the Dell website.
A journey of a thousand miles is not completed by the first step and who says
we
are in a hurry anyway?
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> pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
> Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
&g
On 07/23/2010 08:15 AM, »John« wrote:
> Damn right. Did you know that despite of what most of us probably think,
> the M$ flagship product is actually their Office suite?
That is an easy switch, next to Exchange. MS Exchange and Outlook are
quite good and hard to match. I know, as I am trying h
> > http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/windows_or_ubuntu
> > Choose Windows "If you are new to computers" - a bad joke. Especially when
> > new to computers and not having to deal with old required Windows stuff, it
> > is easier to use Ubuntu.
> Yeah. It is exactly those user
Sadly i often have to set people up with OpenOffice even when AbiWord might be
more appropriate for a client's minimal usage of office packages. This allows
me to set all the default formats to MicroSquish ones so that they have no
problems sending files to anyone. Pdf is an annoying format as
> > http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/windows_or_ubuntu?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs
>
> Choose Windows "If you are new to computers" - a bad joke. Especially
> when new to computers and not having to deal with old required Windows
> stuff, it is easier to use Ubuntu.
Yeah. It i
On Wed, Jul 21, 2010 at 23:29, mzc <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/windows_or_ubuntu?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs
Choose Windows "If you are new to computers" - a bad joke. Especially
when new to computers and not having to deal with old requi
y free software like
Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
benefits would be apparent and known by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
>
>
>
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It may be old news, but it always strikes as something unpleasant:
http://www1.euro.dell.com/content/topics/segtopic.aspx/windows_or_ubuntu?c=uk&cs=ukdhs1&l=en&s=dhs
"Choose UBUNTU if: You do not plan to use Microsoft WINDOWS". Duh!
Really? I would add this pearl to the summary of the present bug,
Alternatively we could help raise mainstream awareness of options such as
Dual-Boot and LiveCd (and with *buntu, Puppy and a rare few others the 'install
inside Windows' option) as all of these are easy ways for non-techies to keep
data intact.
Regards from
Tom :)
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Simple way to slowly convert, and make a user think it is his idea.
1) Windows system breaks, or is painfully slow. Do not have time to fix
it, but you can boot a LiveCD and mount the drive so they can do some
work until you get a chance to fix it.
2) Later, when they are working OK, come by a
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:55, Tom <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> > Of course if Windows is reinstalled and data gets lost
> > then people don't talk about that often because they then feel it shows
> > them up as bad computer-users, also it's difficult for them to
> > understand or express
On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 10:55, Tom <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Of course if Windows is reinstalled and data gets lost
> then people don't talk about that often because they then feel it shows
> them up as bad computer-users, also it's difficult for them to
> understand or express clearly. B
Hi :)
Windows Users are not always capable of installing a simple program.
>From my experiences i would estimate that perhaps 10% or less are
capable. However, when they move to a linux system and eventually find a
package manager they seem to feel a lot safer and more capable. Windows
users that
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> > Dual-boots allow the person to change over to linux at their own pace so
> > that
> > they resent the new system less.
>
> It might be that people do need Windows later for particular tasks
> although they already prefer Linux. In any case, a VirtualBox running
> the Windows is quite always
> Can we refrain from using the phrase "Linux usage", and from using the
> words "Linux" and Ubuntu interchangeably? Are people really expected to
> use a kernel directly?
>
> My experience is that dropping the "L" word opens up our favourite
> operating system to a much wider audience. More thou
Most Windows users i have stumbled across have no idea about (re)installing an
operating system, whether Windows or gnu&Linux or something else. There are
complexities and choices they are very unlikely to be aware of but may be
dismayed that "the right way" was guessed by telepathy. Perhaps yo
ew PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale should include only free software like
Ubuntu.
> 2. Ubuntu should be marketed in a way such that its amazing features and
benefits would be apparent and known by all.
&g
On Wed, Jul 7, 2010 at 09:30, Tom <1...@bugs.launchpad.net> wrote:
> Dual-boots allow the person to change over to linux at their own pace so that
> they resent the new system less.
It might be that people do need Windows later for particular tasks
although they already prefer Linux. In any case,
Can we refrain from using the phrase "Linux usage", and from using the
words "Linux" and Ubuntu interchangeably? Are people really expected to
use a kernel directly?
My experience is that dropping the "L" word opens up our favourite
operating system to a much wider audience. More thoughts here:
ht
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UD seems fairly crucial to getting people
more
relaxed about trying Linux.
Regards from
Tom :)
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On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 21:34, Faldegast wrote:
> For the last few years my policy have been that i only support Linux,
> i dont answer any Windows questions even if i know them. I simply
> reply "I dont use Windows". As a result the amount of time i have to spend
> supporting friends and family ha
> Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2010 22:08:17 +
> From: jns@gmail.com
> To: faldeg...@hotmail.com
> Subject: [Bug 1] Microsoft has a majority market share
>
> Hi there.
>
>
> > I dont see how you get from portable binary drivers to binary blobs.
>
> If you fa
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On Tue, Jul 6, 2010 at 13:58, Tom wrote:
> Please can we try to set-up Dual-boot's rather than slash & burn.
Why should I waste so much disk space?
> If people need to return machines it is difficult sometimes but dual-boot
> gets around the issues
If a machine is returned it should then get a
Please can we try to set-up Dual-boot's rather than slash & burn. If
people need to return machines it is difficult sometimes but dual-boot
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On Mon, Jul 5, 2010 at 18:39, »John« wrote:
> I agree that having a standardised driver framework would probably not
> be a bad thing, but there's another catch - DRIVERS FOR FREE OPERATING
> SYSTEMS WOULD STILL NEED TO BE FREE!
Yes, indeed.
>> The optimal solution would be if compiled kernel m
Hi there.
> I dont see how you get from portable binary drivers to binary blobs.
If you factor in my understanding of the word "blob" (which for me
equals "binary (only) drivers", not "free drivers in their pre-compiled
form"), then you just answered yourself.
> With my suggestion you would be
> One problem and a reason why so many people think that Linux is so
> non-standard is that when (not IF but WHEN) standards are agreed by various
> international bodies then MicroSquish goes ahead putting things together the
> other way around. Since most people's experience of machines is lim
> I'm sorry, but you fail to see the bigger picture.
>
>
> > One thing that is needed is open standard. Writing an operating system
> > should not be about writing drivers for hundreds of devices. Standards
> > should exists for drivers. Like OSKit or I/O Kit. Hince there should not
> > have
I'm sorry, but you fail to see the bigger picture.
> One thing that is needed is open standard. Writing an operating system should
> not be about writing drivers for hundreds of devices. Standards should exists
> for drivers. Like OSKit or I/O Kit. Hince there should not have to be Linux
> dri
One problem and a reason why so many people think that Linux is so non-standard
is that when (not IF but WHEN) standards are agreed by various international
bodies then MicroSquish goes ahead putting things together the other way
around. Since most people's experience of machines is limited to d
own by all.
> 3. The system shall become more and more user friendly as time passes.
>
>
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I agree with Ahmed
On Mon, Jun 28, 2010 at 5:48 PM, Ahmed Khattab Shams <
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> In Egypt we have the problem that the most of people who use computers are
> just using it for Entertaining only, and most of Software and Games are
> available only in Microsoft's pack
In Egypt we have the problem that the most of people who use computers are just
using it for Entertaining only, and most of Software and Games are available
only in Microsoft's package formats, (exe, msi,...etc)
Moreover the business users tends to use Microsoft's Office on Microsoft's
Windows,
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On Tue, Jun 22, 2010 at 06:58, mzc wrote:
> The worst scenario is at least one of its (like
> HP) peripherals e.g. wifi LAN will not work properly because its
> firmware is proprietary (only compatible to Microsoft).
Indeed - had the WLAN issue with a recent HP!
The system76 products look very go
Dear Ubuntu.com / Canonical admin,
The certified hardware section of the site mentions company names like
HP, Dell, Toshiba, etc. while missing out companies like System76 that
actually sell Ubuntu computers. The current post list only shows
certified / compatible models but these companies dont
sorry, a mistake with the resend
a link, but in italian, I am a poet, and I don't like much to write in
English.
http://www.mondoquarto.org/librars/discorsoni/discorsi-collinari/
Faldegast ha scritto:
> Westerners do not want to evolve or learn. This is one of many indications
> that western
a link, but in italian, I am a poet, and I don't like much to write in
English.
http://www.mondoquarto.org/librars/discorsoni/discorsi-collinari/
Faldegast ha scritto:
> Westerners do not want to evolve or learn. This is one of many indications
> that western civilizations has now reached th
Westerners do not want to evolve or learn. This is one of many indications that
western civilizations has now reached their climax and entered into stagnation.
Other civilizations that do evolve will pass us by and the western world will
be passed. This is how Rome ended, and how most civilizat
This bug is widespread in the UK, and like so many bugs, seems to have
mutated and migrated to the Human population. When I wished to purchase
a new laptop, I requested Vista be removed, and the price of the OS (and
I use the term loosely) discounted from the price of the laptop, that I
might insta
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Free software isn't only a market, it can make also a market and many
too,
have you read virgolette nice little ancient market of fuffa store
online? virgolette.mp3
french regards :)
Faldegast ha scritto:
>> Another company have the majority market share of the new pcs. See the
>> stock exch
Vorrei discutere in italiano, imho, una sola lingua impedisce
discussioni più efficaci.
Launchpad ha sezioni in italiano?
automatic translations:
I will discuss in Italian, imho, one language prevents discussions more
effective.
Launchpad has sections in Italian?
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Nice to see 3 additions to this page
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/UbuntuPre-installed
Computer Suppliers with pages like these deserve to get a few hits to buoy up
interest
http://www.koala.it/
http://www.abacocomputers.com
http://www.garlach44.it/index.php
http://www.airone-lt.eu/
Nice page
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> Another company have the majority market share of the new pcs. See the
> stock exchange for the measure.
That would be HP if you are talking about hardware. The stock exchange does not
give a measure on a specific product.
> So now the first bug is fixed but only because it has a design bug, i
Another company have the majority market share of the new pcs. See the
stock exchange for the measure.
So now the first bug is fixed but only because it has a design bug, imho.
Free software isn't only a market, it can make also a market and many too, but
ubuntu or canonical or uncle Mark did n
Will google apps fall in this category
On May 27, 2010 3:47 PM, "Artem Karimov" wrote:
Microsoft has also got the majority of office apps market share.
OpenOffice.org is now in progress of fixing this bug.
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> I had to buy a notebook with just one require
> If in order to run Ubuntu my mother has to buy Windows, then the
present bug will take decades to be fixed...
Exactly! If we allow M$ to have the luxury of charging us even for
licenses that actually never get used (which their own EULA clearly
states as a completely valid reason to get a refund
t:
>
> 1. Visit a local PC store.
>
> What happens:
> 2. Observe that a majority of PCs for sale have non-free software
> pre-installed.
> 3. Observe very few PCs with Ubuntu and free software pre-installed.
>
> What should happen:
> 1. A majority of the PCs for sale sho
I'm Italian, and wanted to buy a netbook for my mother. At first, I
browsed Dell US Website (don't ask me why), for I thought I could buy it
from there and have it shipped. I chose an Inspiron Mini 10, which came
nicely with Ubuntu pre-installed (although it was an outdated copy which
I had to wipe
of the notebooks has it.
>
> I guess, everybody who wants to use Linux is able to put in the
> distribution of flavor and dump the preinstalled Windows. I already
> stated earlier that I think, there will be more than 50 % Linux around
> earlier than offered in the shops. So bug #1
more than 50 % Linux around
earlier than offered in the shops. So bug #1 should maybe have another
description.
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