@Vish: thanks for your answer. I have read the blog post before, but
still it doesn't seem consistent to me. But that's only an opinion. If
I come up with a better solution though, I'll propose it.
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This is not a bug and not something we are going to change in Ubuntu or
in Upstream GNOME, for more detailed info kindly read :
http://blogs.gnome.org/mccann/2009/08/08/whatchamacallit/
In short, Even though GNOME is built from several individual apps, the
user should not be made to feel that
@Vish: and where should I report the list of apps that show their names,
like Aislerot Solitaire, Banshee Media Player, Brasero Disc Burner,
Empathy Internet Messaging, Evolution Mail and Calendar, Gwibber Social
Client, Synaptic Package manager, Transmission Bittorrent Client and
Tomboy notes, to
Just to be clear, in case people have not read that blog or the links in it.
Its not just plain removing the app brand name. It's also about giving the
right app brand name which user can better identify with.
Displaying just totem makes no sense of it being a movie player.
Most of the bugs are
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Setting this to triaged since it is being discussed on the mailinglist
and we can't do anything else for the bug.
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It is being discussed on ubuntu-devel-discuss, see
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-
discuss/2009-June/008539.html. I second not spamming the CC list, just
comment by email.
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rhythmbox, pidgin, firefox are not GNOME applications but right the
naming is not really coherent and it would be nice to fix it but adding
totem in one title is not the way to do that
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you really think that this confrontational behaviour on bug status will
make you convince somebody? I don't intend to fight over a launchpad bug
which let user reopen bugs closed by whoever is working on a component
and simply ignore this bug from now rather, the rational is clear:
- those
Sebastien Bacher:
- Why do you ignore the fact that those discussions have already taken place
on a list? Is it because the answer that was concluded there (two years
ago!) was not the one you wanted to hear?
- Why do you ignore the fact that Ubuntu does sometimes make changes from
upstream?
- I don't ignore anything but it would be nice if people would stop spamming
everybody subscribed to this bug and would take the discussion to the user
forum or list of their choice
- I don't ignore it and I'm doing a number of those changes for desktop
component, we stated we will not be doing
lot of menu items use the same naming scheme (gedit is Text Editor
for example), the rational is that the entry without a name is
implicitely the default software for this category, other softwares have
their names to make clear they are a different choice
VLC, Mplayer and Gxine are important
I posted on ubuntu-devel-discuss again:
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-
discuss/2009-June/008437.html
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Thanks for your interest in helping improve Ubuntu. I agree with you
that this is a bug, but, as Sebastien stated, it's inconvenient to do
this change in Ubuntu because of the additional translation work and
divergence from upsteam rit creates.
This doesn't mean it can't be done, but it'd really
Upstream has /absolutely/ no intention of doing this. Their interpretation
of the Desktop Entry Spec is basically along the lines of how we want the
menu to look, which is the reason we have applications named such delights
as Take Screenshot.
The only way this is ever gonna be fixed is if Ubuntu
The upstream bug state they will not change the name and we will not do
it in an ubuntu specific way
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Sebastien Bacher: please stop setting the status to Invalid; just
because upstream will not fix, doesn't mean that Ubuntu shouldn't,
especially since ubuntu-devel-discuss decided that it *is* a problem for
Ubuntu. Also, PLEASE stop repeating yourself; your objection regarding
upstream was already
Sebastien Bacher wrote on 2009-06-03: that's not a bug and should
rather be discussed on a mailing list if you disagree
??? This *WAS* discussed on the appropriate ML *two years ago* and the
decision was that it *IS* indeed a bug. Please stop reverting the
status and if you have the authority,
that's not a bug and should rather be discussed on a mailing list if you
disagree
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Could be a good idea to mail the ubuntu-devel list about that rather
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How about now?
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still not convinced that ubuntu should do a distribution specific change
there, the use is rather inconsistent
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I think it would benefit Ubuntu to have a strict policy on menu naming. What
we have right now is a mess of Generic Name, Name Generic Name and
Name all over the menus.
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right, it would benefit all the distributors and should better be done
upstream than breaking all the translations
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GNOME are tight shut on this, as far as Bastien is concerned in Totem's
case, Totem is the single application in the software world that plays
movies.
Is it really that much work for Ubuntu translators to do this to the few
Desktop Entry files distributed with GNOME?
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not really that many translations to update but it has to be done early
to allow all the translation team to do the changes, and it would better
to do a menu review and change everything that needs to be updated
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Do you think this is worth pursuing? If so, I can open another, more general
bug for it so we can aim to get it done for Hardy+1. Or would a Blueprint be
more suitable?
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As per https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-
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Unless Ubuntu is deliberately diverging from Gnome here (and I don't know why
we would), the bug is valid. From http://urlx.org/gnome.org/53594: In the
menu item name, include a description of functionality
See the ubuntu-devel-discuss comment; it appears that, as per Gnome
guidelines, it should be called Totem Movie Player
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Can we just do this and get it over with? It's like a 30 second job for
anyone with commit access...
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Sebastien Bacher said on 2007-04-17:discussion can be moved to ubuntu-
devel-discuss list
OK ;)
https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel-
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Was already opened upstream and rejected, on can read about it on
http://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=331919
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Bugwatch: None = GNOME Bug Tracker #331919
The bug being rejected upstream doesn't invalidate it here, at least not
with the given justification. Firefox _is_ the default web browser, Gaim
_is_ the default instant messenger; that Totem might happen to be the
default video player in stock GNOME as well as in Ubuntu doesn't make
the naming
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It's coherent with some items like Text Editor, the naming could be
discussed, the bug is not specific to totem though, closing this task,
discussion can be moved to ubuntu-devel-discuss list
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Thank you for your bug, upstream request
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