** Also affects: indicator-sound (Ubuntu RTM)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu RTM)
Status: New = In Progress
** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu RTM)
Assignee: (unassigned) = Ted Gould (ted)
** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu
** Branch linked: lp:~indicator-applet-developers/indicator-sound/rtm-
extreme-volume-warning
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** Branch linked: lp:~ted/ubuntu-system-settings/extreme-volume-warning
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** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
Status: Invalid = In Progress
** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
Assignee: (unassigned) = Ted Gould (ted)
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** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
Status: Triaged = In Progress
** Changed in: indicator-sound
Status: Triaged = In Progress
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** Branch linked: lp:~ted/indicator-sound/extreme-volume-warning
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** Branch linked: lp:~macslow/unity-settings-daemon/max-volume-
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Title:
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One easy way in the indicator to know if the active port a
headphone/headset: http://paste.ubuntu.com/8556022/
I think we should do the following:
1 - Check if the active port is headset;
2 - If headset, see if the volume for the multimedia role is higher than 75%.
If higher, change it to 75%
** Also affects: unity8 (Ubuntu RTM)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu RTM)
Status: New = In Progress
** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu RTM)
Assignee: (unassigned) = Mirco Müller (macslow)
** Also affects: unity-notifications (Ubuntu)
** Changed in: ubuntu-ux
Assignee: Matthew Paul Thomas (mpt) = (unassigned)
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Title:
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** Tags removed: touch-2014-10-23
** Tags added: touch-2014-10-16
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Title:
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** Branch linked: lp:~macslow/unity8/synchronous-notification
** Branch linked: lp:~macslow/unity-notifications/synchronous-
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** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
Assignee: Charles Kerr (charlesk) = (unassigned)
** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
Assignee: Charles Kerr (charlesk) = (unassigned)
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** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Triaged
** Changed in: indicator-sound
Status: New = Triaged
** Changed in: indicator-sound
Importance: Undecided = Critical
** Changed in: indicator-sound (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Critical
** Changed in:
** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
Status: Triaged = Invalid
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I agree with Charles. As all-embracing as mpt's solution for the
convoluted EU-regulations is, that will not be doable in the RTM-
timeframe.
Still for the warning-at-75% stop-gap suggestion, I need a design-
sanctioned mockup.
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** Description changed:
The EU has a legal requirement for personal music players to prevent hearing
damage.
http://eur-lex.europa.eu/legal-content/EN/TXT/HTML/?uri=CELEX:32009D0490rid=1
- For the purpose of this Decision, a ‘personal music player’ means a
- portable
Current implementation in action...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J_tvCQ5hHxI
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Title:
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Or the text section could be allocated, and the volume bar would not
move when text is displayed.
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Title:
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mpt,
the High Volume text notification should probably be below the volume bar;
that way the volume bar does not drop down/jump around while it changes color...
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Bleh.. I should have read the wiki fully..
Mirco,
the specs read ...instead of saying “Headphones” should say “High volume”, and
the bar should be colored. But there is no 'headphones' label above the icon,
hence the jumping bar.
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As spaniard and thus still someone in the EU here is the behaviour of
the phones i have around me with headset attached:
Shows a notification at 70/80% that doesn't let you increase the volume unless
you say ok, sure
* Blackberry Z10
* Nexus 4 with Android 4.4
* Unknown manufacturer with
Shows nothing:
* iPhone 5S bought in the USA (so may have not the EU law applied)
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Shows a notification at 70/80% that doesn't let you increase the volume unless
you say ok, sure
* MWG509 Wings GII with Android 4.2
And that's all the phones i could find in the house :D
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after some discussion with LT wrt timeline requirement for this bug:
1) we'll rely on device hardware/drivers for the hard limits for
2) we provide a warning at 75% of slider
with this, makes pulse opinion.
** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Opinion
** Changed in:
Albert, thanks for that survey of how various systems meet Requirement
2.2. I'm fairly confident in my design for that, though, so I'm much
more interested in how they meet Requirement 2.1. :-)
I understand that 2.1 is much more difficult to implement (regardless of
whether it's done in the
For RTM, I agree with Kevin in comment #12 about using 75% of the
slider.
Setting aside that it's probably literally impossible to get the actual
dB coming out of a pair of headphones due to differing impedance
ratings, mpt's wiki design looks well-thought-out but is not something
that is
** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = In Progress
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Title:
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based on the specification that's been provided it would seem that the audio
subsystem would need to be involved for
measuring dB output as this will always be a potential driven by a
combination of sw hw (e.g. sound subsystem needs to provide a means of
reporting dB per volume setting)
** Also affects: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Also affects: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** No longer affects: pulseaudio
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** Changed in: pulseaudio (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Critical
** Changed in: ubuntu-system-settings (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Critical
** Tags removed: touch-2014-10-16
** Tags added: touch-2014-10-23
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Specification updated.
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Sound?action=diffrev2=124rev1=122
** Changed in: ubuntu-ux
Status: In Progress = Fix Committed
** Description changed:
The EU has a legal requirement for personal music players to prevent hearing
damage.
** Changed in: ubuntu-ux
Status: Triaged = In Progress
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** Description changed:
- Apparently there is a legal requirement, when volume is high, to show a
- warning of some sort.
+ The EU apparently has a legal requirement, when volume is high, to show
+ a warning of some sort.
+
+ Discussion of the need for the requirement:
+
+
Just as well I looked up the actual regulation ... It turns out that we
don't just need to warn about high volume, but limit high volume by time
as well.
** Description changed:
- The EU apparently has a legal requirement, when volume is high, to show
- a warning of some sort.
+ The EU has a
At 80 dB(A) exposure time shall be limited to 40 hours/week, whereas at
89 dB(A) exposure time shall be limited to 5 hours/week. For other
exposure levels a linear intra- and extrapolation applies.
I'll put this here for others to check while I do the rest of the
design:
maximum time per week =
A corollary is that it's fine to listen 24×7 if the volume is 47 dB(A)
or less. So I guess that's the volume we should reduce to if you hit the
limit.
Six cases to consider: (turn up too loud, listening loud too long) ×
(OSD, System Settings, indicator menu). We'll probably use the same text
** Changed in: ubuntu-ux
Importance: Undecided = Critical
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** Tags removed: touch-2014-10-02
** Tags added: touch-2014-10-16
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** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Critical
** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Confirmed
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This topic is also being discussed in bug 1232633 so may want to dupe,
for now will tag for same date
** Tags added: touch-2014-10-02
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This warning is only shown to the user (on Android) if headphones are
plugged it.
We too could display such a warning by triggering a corresponding snap-
decision from indicator-sound. With our current notification-system we
have all needed means for this in place. But what
yeah, please keep 'em seperate. this one is about the max vol
notification not the generic volume changer grahpic feedback
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** Tags added: rtm14
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** Changed in: unity8 (Ubuntu)
Assignee: (unassigned) = Mirco Müller (macslow)
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