[Bug 1393767] Re: [trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management

2014-11-19 Thread b3nmore
> But the blank timeout is set to 10mins by default ... Unless there is something hard coded into light-locker, this shouldn't be an issue: ll-settings will set two timings only and will disable (=0) the other ones. With xfpm running: xset s 0 dpms t1 0 t2, and without: xset s t1 dpms t2 0 0. --

[Bug 1393767] Re: [trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management

2014-11-19 Thread Simon Steinbeiß
Yes, it's the first event. But the blank timeout is set to 10mins by default, so it's not entirely unlikely that this will trigger (unexpected and - at least via GUI - uncontrollable) timed locking. Removing the ability to control the blank time means we'd have to disable blanking altogether. --

[Bug 1393767] Re: [trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management

2014-11-19 Thread b3nmore
Are you sure? If I use lock session when screensaver is activated, delay: 10s and xset s 100 dpms 10 0 120. Session locks after 20s. Same with xset s 0 dpms 10 0 120. So the first pm event seems to start the timer. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, w

[Bug 1393767] Re: [trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management

2014-11-19 Thread Simon Steinbeiß
Yeah, I know. Losing control over blanking isn't really an option, as it defines the timeout for light-locker's timed-locking feature. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1393767 Title: [t

[Bug 1393767] Re: [trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management

2014-11-19 Thread b3nmore
Just to be sure there is no misunderstanding, I was talking about light- locker-settings 1.2.1 and xfpm 1.2.0 (both from trusty). The patch is for those versions. If you decide to apply it, we will loose a gui to set screen blanking (it will be turned off), but we will gain better consistency with

[Bug 1393767] Re: [trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management

2014-11-19 Thread Simon Steinbeiß
As I already said, backporting those features is not really an option, even though trusty will be around for quite a bit (simply because our workforce is too limited for that – feel free to help out and propose patches). The main problem the dependency chain (xfce4-power-manager 1.4 needs a newer

[Bug 1393767] Re: [trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management

2014-11-19 Thread b3nmore
> You could argue that the DPMS settings conflict and that this one should be removed though. dpms don't conflict, because they are synced between xfpm and light- locker-settings. > Since no service handles the blank times with the switch away from XScreensaver to light-locker, we decided that li

[Bug 1393767] Re: [trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management

2014-11-19 Thread Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot
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[Bug 1393767] Re: [trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management

2014-11-19 Thread Simon Steinbeiß
Since no service handles the blank times with the switch away from XScreensaver to light-locker, we decided that light-locker-settings should take care of it until xfce4-power-manager was ready. So the current solution in trusty makes perfect sense. You could argue that the DPMS settings conflict a

[Bug 1393767] Re: [trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management

2014-11-19 Thread b3nmore
> DPMS sleep/standby/off time is not the same as blank time and xfpm1.2 didn't handle blanking at all. Thats my point exactly: If xfpm is running light-locker-settings should not apply any screen blank settings, because xfpm does not handle it. I've attached a patch which makes light-locker-setti

[Bug 1393767] Re: [trusty] light-locker-settings may prevent xfpm to apply power source dependent monitor power management

2014-11-18 Thread Simon Steinbeiß
DPMS sleep/standby/off time is not the same as blank time and xfpm1.2 didn't handle blanking at all. We added that in 1.4, but that came out too late for Trusty. Backporting those features is not really an option, even though trusty will be around for quite a bit (simply because our workforce is to