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I think this bug broke my desktop when upgrading to Ubuntu 17, but I'm
not sure if it's the originally reported component that has the bug as I
don't know if the re-write for gnome 3 that was mentioned above actually
happened.
In any case, why are the compiz packages available for new
Sebastien,
This bug is marked as affecting nearly 5 dozen people. Some (including
me) consider it a regression, as the functionality used to work.
It has 12 other bugs (affecting who knows how many people) all marked as
duplicates. It was reported in 2007, possibly one or more of the 12
Problem still persists in Natty.
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in clean Ubuntu 10.04.2 Workspace Switcher cant drag windows onto other
workspaces
see video http://videobin.org/+4j6/4wv.html it has 3 bugs about workspace
switcher
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Added as dub bug 789381 - still exists in clean 10.04.2
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Stanislaw, Corona: patches welcomed!
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... and another bump, couple of months later.
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Bump, since the problem is also present in 10.10.
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Disable compiz isn't a sensible workaround for this bug. Compiz offers
more than eye candy. Many new users wouldn't know how to replace it with
xfwm4 and would be stuck with metacity, so they'd be replacing a window
manager with a problem that can be worked around (Expo etc) with one
which is
Closing papercut task as per Sebastien's comment.
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Status: Triaged = Invalid
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Closing this, marking it invalid, is inappropriate. 100 paper cuts
doesn't mean 100 trivial bugs which are easy to fix, it means 100 small
annoyances that piss off users, particularly newbie ones who don't know the
workarounds. Please UNDO this change of status.
Paul Beardsell
On Tue, 2010-08-17 at 08:40 +, Paul Beardsell wrote:
Closing this, marking it invalid, is inappropriate. 100 paper cuts
doesn't mean 100 trivial bugs which are easy to fix, it means 100 small
annoyances that piss off users, particularly newbie ones who don't know the
workarounds. Please
The bug there is nontrivial to change, not really an hundredpapercut
task but rather a lot of libwnck changes
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Ugh. So yeah, these Compiz/Workspace Switcher bugs still obviously
exist.
1. Can't use mouse wheel to scroll workspaces in the switcher.
2. Can't drag from the window list to the workspace switcher to send a window
to another workspace.
3. Can't drag a window from the window switcher and drop it
What you can't do with expose but with workplace switcher is for example
drag an image from a firefox window, hover over a different workspace in
the switcher. This switches workspace to the application that is waiting
for the dragged input image.
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I don't think anyone's ungrateful. The problem is that the default is
broken. On my system, Normal visual effects are enabled by default
(resulting in Compiz being used). In that configuration, I cannot drag
windows between workspaces - making the tooltips a liar. Can I survive
without Compiz? Of
Using Exposé is a little workaround.
In Exposé-View you can drag an drop app-windows. Its very fast, you dont
need to press any button, just assign one edge to exposé.
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The only available workaround: Disable compiz. Compiz is but eye-candy, you
and your users will prefer Ubuntu with unbroken multiple workspaces. And
candy isn't good for you :-)
Some would say that complaining about this bug means:
* you misunderstand the Ubuntu bug reporting politics
* you are
I'll admit i'm a novice at linux but i do use compiz for more than
eyecandy. i use it for its expose like qualities, and coming from a mac,
it's hard to get un-used to it lol. i don't mean to sound ungrateful.
but i just think about how long this bug has been here, and all the
people it affects,
Does anyone have a fix for lucid? This is ridiculous, after 3 years man,
still nothing.
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On Sun, 2010-05-23 at 17:17 +, Paul Beardsell wrote:
If I wanted
an app's display to open on a particular workspace on a monitor I could do
so by specifying '-display :0.3' or to choose a particular monitor I
could use '-display :3'. We miss a trick or two now. And whereas
I had not realised I was criticising you so very personally as to provoke
that outburst.
Perhaps it is you who misunderstand. The current workaround for this bug is
to disable compiz. But, one has to ask, and this is my point: Why should
compiz even have the opportunity of breaking workspaces?
Go, Ryan, Go! Wahoo!
Kind regards,
-Paul Reiber
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On Sat, May 22, 2010 at 7:21 PM, Ryan Beard lampwic...@yahoo.com wrote:
Paul - I had a similar prognosis. My initial plan is to develop a
universal workspace switcher -
In my opinion the whole workspace thing is a hack implemented against the
way X is supposed to work. Each workspace is not traditionally addressable.
E.g. I cannot choose which workspace/pane my windowed application opens in
- it's always the current one. E.g both
xterm -display :0
xterm
I wish I had the time and skill to help.
But if the expo function code was used it might give even more dynamic look.
Example attached.
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Paul Beardsell wrote:
In my opinion the whole workspace thing is a hack implemented against the
way X is supposed to work. Each workspace is not traditionally addressable.
E.g. I cannot choose which workspace/pane my windowed application opens in
...
fails with an error. In my opinion
I'm not sure I would change hardly a word of my posting. It seems to me the
multi-monitor Unix systems I was lucky enough to work on sometimes in the
1990's could have been implemented just as poorly as the multi-workspace
idea we have in Gnome and similar on Linux. But they were not. If I
On Sun, May 23, 2010 at 12:17 PM, Paul Beardsell p...@beardsell.com wrote:
I'm not sure I would change hardly a word of my posting. [...]
Me either; deficiencies are deficiencies, and X has some.
Paul, check out this tool: http://foosel.org/linux/devilspie
I think you'll be a happy camper
Followup: the link I posted before is to a great documentation site;
the Devils Pie website itself is:
http://www.burtonini.com/blog/computers/devilspie
Aside: Please, let's try to keep messages to
150...@bugs.launchpad.net relevant to Bug 150690. (I know, I'm as
guilty as the next guy...)
Thanks Paul. I've downloaded the Grub development kit, and I'll be
setting up conary today. I'll let you how things go.
-ryan
On Fri, 2010-05-21 at 22:36 +, PaulReiber wrote:
Ryan,
If you're willing to dig/investigate, code, debug, and submit, I'm
certainly willing to help.
I've
@Marcus: I've tried Fedora 13, and they have the same issue - when
Compiz desktop effects are enabled, hovering the mouse over an image for
an application in the workspace switcher shows the tooltip drag to move
application to a different workspace, but dragging doesn't do anything.
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Ryan - here's my understanding of this issue. I believe, at the heart
of the issue is that Compiz handles virtual desktops quite differently
than Metacity.
Because of this, it fakes any apps using the Metacity virtual
desktop API into thinking there's only one virtual desktop. I'm not
sure of
Paul - I had a similar prognosis. My initial plan is to develop a
universal workspace switcher - one that will query (and monitor) the
window manager to determine the compositing engine, and then play along.
I'm reading up on some of the compiz APIs now. I'd really like to
incorporate some
Is this patch still applicable to Lucid? I'm unable to locate pager.c
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On Fri, May 21, 2010 at 10:17 AM, Ryan Beard lampwic...@yahoo.com wrote:
Is this patch still applicable to Lucid? I'm unable to locate pager.c
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Paul -
I'm actually referring to the patch attached to this bug (posted in
comment #34: betterpatch.diff). It appears to target pager.c, but I
can't find that file in 10.04.
I haven't researched the Fedora patch yet, but I will look into that.
I'm new to Gnome, and linux in general (been an
Ryan,
If you're willing to dig/investigate, code, debug, and submit, I'm
certainly willing to help.
I've been programming/administering UNIX for ~30 years, Linux for ~15.
My strengths are... well, pretty wide-reaching, but not so much in the
GUI/Gnome/Window-manager/Virtual-Desktop coding
Yes allankelly, same here.. This is an essential desktop usability
issue! If you just try to drag the windows, the cursor changes, but then
still nothing is happening.
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Hi again, I've installed 10.04 LTS and one of the first things I did was
check this out. Nope, it's broken in the same way.
Thanks to Paul for the comments above and if it's possible to ++ this by
keeping it under discussion then I hope I've helped.
Cheers, al.
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I also experienced a crash of the workspace-switcher applet when using
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window to another.
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This is still present in 9.10. I believe the most important issues are
those a) visible to new users out-of-the-box and b) which obviously
differ from Windows. Hence this is a very important issue which is very
likely to be noticed by new users, who will base their opinion of Ubuntu
(and Linux) on
Hear! Hear!
Paul Beardsell
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On 9 April 2010 08:39, allankelly allanke...@gmail.com wrote:
This is still present in 9.10. I believe the most important issues are
those a) visible to new users out-of-the-box and b) which obviously
differ from Windows. Hence this is a very
This only affects the workplace switcher applet, which I thought windows
didn't have? You can still move windows between desktops using the
option menu or the keyboard shortcut (ctr-alt-shift left/right). Or just
dragging them to the edge of the screen.
Not that I don't think it's important to
Something is going wrong when my favourite o/s (of which I am a deeply
appreciative long time desktop user and boring evangelist) can have all its
window buttons moved top left and the background changed to lurid purple but
the desktop switcher does not work (for ordinary mortals) as it should.
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 2:39 AM, allankelly allanke...@gmail.com wrote:
This is still present in 9.10. [...affecting...] first impressions.
Yes - depressing isn't it? However there doesn't appear to be a
clear-cut fix because of how the implementation of workspaces differs
from metacity to
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:01 AM, wdesmet krom...@gmail.com wrote:
This only affects the workplace switcher applet, which I thought windows
didn't have?
Indeed that appears to have been Allen's point - that workspace
switching is something new that you don't see in Windows. Thus, new
users try
On Fri, Apr 9, 2010 at 3:29 AM, Paul Beardsell p...@beardsell.com wrote:
Something is going wrong when my favourite o/s (of which I am a deeply
appreciative long time desktop user and boring evangelist) can have all its
window buttons moved top left and the background changed to lurid purple
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Seems from comment #37 , that upstream hasnt moved on this issue since
they are considering re-writing libwnck for gnome 3.0
Either Marcus' patch is good to be applied for Lucid or could someone
request changes to Marcus' patch.
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This tool-tip issue has nothing to do with the REAL bug.
Please, let's stay on focus. If you think the tool-tip issue is
serious enough, open a NEW bug, and discuss it there.
This bug's about broken functionality, not about tool-tips.
Kind regards,
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No Lionel. Changing the tool-tip when compiz is active (since, compiz
breaks the DnD functionality) would then make everything work as
expected keep the tool-tips useful for both cases. Yes, changing the
tool-tip won't fix the DnD problems when compiz is loaded, but it will
correct the problem of
BTW - the tool tip for the workspace switcher still says click to start
dragging when hovering over an application, even though this clearly
doesn't work. I suggest disabling the tool tip until such time that the
functionality is put back (as I understand its hard).
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Oded, actually patches to make it work is availble and i think Fedora
includes those in their package. The problem is that Vincent would like
to rewrite the whole workspace/viewport code to make it generic. I guess
he doesn't have time to fix this atm as all work goes towards gnome-
shell and
Not that I'm complaining, but I think the current situation is sub-optimal and
there are a few ways to fix this in Ubuntu (i.e. not upstream):
1) wait until a rewrite is done, either for GNOME 2 or GNOME 3. This will take
a long time to deliver.
2) Apply the patches available elsewhere
3) Fix
rewriting the tooltip is just plain wrong. This bug is a regression (it doesn't
happen with Metacity) and some people are used to it.
Just changing the tooltip is *NOT* solving the bug and will send a wrong
signal. It's like closing the door when you see that your kitchen is on
fire. By
assigning it to One Hundred Paper Cuts because :
- it clearly impacts the usability of the desktop
- it is by default for most users (as desktop effects are enabled when possible)
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Status: New
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