[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2016-01-07 Thread Robie Basak
We haven't committed to anything yet. The schedule is tight. Whatever we ship we will need to support for 5 years, so it cannot be half done. We are pretty certain that we don't want to ship both 5.6 and 7.0, so we expect to remove one or the other before release. Based on my current understanding

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2016-01-07 Thread Mike O'Connell
It has been added: http://packages.ubuntu.com/xenial/php/php7.0 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1522422 Title: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch To manage notifications about this bug go t

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2016-01-07 Thread blake
I feel like vinc-q and Ondrej actually agree with each other but don't realize it... For what it's worth, I agree that Ubuntu should have PHP7, but we don't need two PHP packages. There aren't enough BC breaks to warrant it. Like Ondrej said, you can stick to older Ubuntu releases or build from so

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2016-01-06 Thread Philipp C. Heckel
Thanks for the quick answer. Let's see what we can do about that :-) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1522422 Title: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch To manage notifications about this bug

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2016-01-05 Thread Ondřej Surý
Phillip, that's a question for @rbasak and ultimately for Canonical whether they allocate enough time to make it happen. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1522422 Title: PHP5 branch and

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2016-01-05 Thread Philipp C. Heckel
Ondřej, thanks for your work on your repos!! Just to clarify: As of today, we don't know whether PHP 7 will make it in 16.04, correct? What does it depend on? Are there any links to discussions about that? I did not find any ... -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2015-12-21 Thread Rauno
I also wish to see PHP 7 in the next LTS. It was released somewhat too late to replace 5.6 so the next best thing is a new package. Wait. You say almost nothing has changed, so why not ditch 5.6? That sounds good too. It's really all about the speed of migration. Switching to PHP 7 as fast as poss

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2015-12-04 Thread vinc-q
I did not know that each time was released a minor version of PHP at the same time was released on the market a product as HHVM which is up to twice as fast as PHP 5.6 without changing one line of code. However do not be surprised if people will go to HHVM, if canonical decides not to support PHP 7

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2015-12-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
You are just repeating the same story that I've heard with every minor version. I still hear some broken obsolete code requires PHP 5.3. The major version bump is not as severe as with python2->python3, so there's a need to put a stake into the ground somewhere. Also "think" is different from putt

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2015-12-04 Thread vinc-q
I think completely different from you. I think the fact that there is not 'broken code' does not justify the non-inclusion. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1522422 Title: PHP5 branch a

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2015-12-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
The performace improvement is nice, but "revolution" would mean a lot of broken code, and this is not what happens with PHP 7.0. The amount of breakage is not that big to justify the amount of work to also support PHP 5.6. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2015-12-04 Thread vinc-q
Just a small clarification, the advantages that the big sites have obtained using HHVM are ONLY related to performance. Do not insert PHP7 in repository is a big mistake. Certainly you can always compile it, but why follow this road? What real benefits? -- You received this bug notification bec

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2015-12-04 Thread vinc-q
I don't agree, PHP 7 is up to twice as fast as PHP 5.6. If it is not a revolution, why a lot of big sites use HHVM and not PHP 5.6? PHP 7 and HHVM performance are similar, so please add PHP7 to repository. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is sub

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2015-12-04 Thread Ondřej Surý
Nah, php7 is not a revolution. php5 over php4 broke API too much, but php7 is much more close to php5.6 than php3 to php4 or php4 to php5 ever was. And php5.6 follow the same support pattern as all php 5.x versions before: http://php.net/supported-versions.php Thus I don't think Debian would ever

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2015-12-03 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: php5 (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1522422 Title: PHP5

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2015-12-03 Thread Torsten Franz
** Package changed: ubuntu => php5 (Ubuntu) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1522422 Title: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch To manage notifications about this bug go to: https://bugs.launc

[Bug 1522422] Re: PHP5 branch and PHP7 branch

2015-12-03 Thread Ubuntu Foundations Team Bug Bot
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make Ubuntu better. It seems that your bug report is not filed about a specific source package though, rather it is just filed against Ubuntu in general. It is important that bug reports be filed about source packages so that people