During upgrade from 18.04 (ubuntu-18.04.3-server-amd64.iso) to 19.10 I
encountered 'lxd-client' update issue. I did not install that package,
and was not even aware it is installed. Please reconsider including it
by default. Failed upgrade and related consequences due to unwanted
package is a
Sorry for the strong word, but I REALLY had a bad time upgrading the
server.
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Title:
LXC/LXD installed by default on Ubuntu server
To manage
It's 2019 now and lxd/lxc came back.
wat?
I'm in China, doing a server upgrade, which took a whole damn hour, while
lxd/lxc installation took 99% of the time.
seriously? Do we have to have this discussion all over again on what's f**
MINIMAL?
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This is a more complex issue; it's not just about LXD, but the general
story for installing "minimal" installs.
The fact that openssh-server was not installed as part of the ubuntu-
server is a separate bug we've covered in a different bug report.
Currently, desktops allow picking a "full"
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Assignee: Dustin Kirkland (kirkland) => (unassigned)
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Title:
LXC/LXD installed by default on Ubuntu
About 9 months passed and no one at ubuntu really cares about this
topic.
In my opinion, the ubuntu-server's dependency should be reconsidered.
Many packages should not be included. Such as:
* open-iscsi
* open-vm-tools
* git
* lxd
I really dont know why these packages listed in ubuntu-server
Honestly? I'm running (or trying to) Ubuntu server off of Raspberry Pis.
I don't need or want LXD. At least provide another task (minimal-server)
or something that we can use that pulls only in what is truly needed.
Right now the only choice I have is to try and figure out for each
package that
Dustin, this is assigned to you. Are you actually working on this?
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Status: Opinion => Confirmed
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If this "selection" of packages is what Ubuntu is calling Server now,
what should we use instead for a BASE server install? As fuqqer-r
pointed out. SSH isn't installed by default, WTF is LDX, git, iscsi,
account-services, and who knows whatelse being installed by default for?
Given 16.04 is
This also affects upgraded 16.04 as the dependency is in ubuntu-server.
This dependency should be removed.
Also, git should be removed from ubuntu-server. Not every server user
needs a version control system in their production environment
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LXC/LXD should be removed! The default server installation doesn't even
install ssh by default and LXC/LXD is certainly not the de-facto choice
of admins to use for a virtualization platform. It should not be foisted
upon users.
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As xenial is close in being released this is probably going to stay in
Which is unfortunate, because we really don't need the containers when
already virtualized, eg. Amazon, DigitalOcean or even in homelabs
proxmox.
What's even more annoying is that this is not the only package that now
gets
I'd also like to suggest this be reconsidered. Minimal should mean
minimal.
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Title:
LXC/LXD installed by default on Ubuntu server
To manage
I agree with both Tom and lightraven24, in that adding in packages that
are not asked for becomes overkill when your "container" is effectively
an amazon instance. Having the ability to create a truely "minimal"
build of ubuntu in order to run on a cloud service provider is important
to reduce
I would suggest this be given better consideration, beyond that of
"opinion", as it is currently impossible to use Ubuntu on a minimal
server. A "minimal" build is now running services that are unwanted,
unexpected, and are creating risk to the enduser. Even though the
development of lxd is
Note that LXD as of yesterday does not depend on lxc anymore and also
does not start the bridge (so no dnsmasq or iptables) until you start
interacting with lxd.
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Frankly, whether or not I can run 100 gallion Ubuntu servers with LXD on
my server with KVM/Xen/a host which needs no virtualization at all on it
is irrevelant.
On a brand-new server install (which I prefer to keep to an absolute
minimal) on bare-metal on Xenial, I now have:
- A bridge that does
I understand Ubuntu wants to push it's container framework. But what
you're saying is that every Ubuntu server installation will have iscsi,
libvirt, lxd, dnsmasq, and all of their dependencies by default. Not the
best strategy. Perhaps a check box in tasksel for "Containers" would
have been more
Indeed, LXD was added to the default Ubuntu server seed in the 15.10
cycle, so this has been the case for at least 6 months.
LXD is extremely important to the Ubuntu server. Basically, every
Ubuntu server can now be 100x more Ubuntu (or other Linux) servers!
This is an important and key concept
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Assignee: Canonical Server Team (canonical-server) => Dustin Kirkland
(kirkland)
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided => Wishlist
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Title:
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Thank you Brian for marking the proper package. I wasn't sure what the
package name would be for the virtual package "ubuntu". Though now in
retrospect, ubuntu-meta is pretty obvious.
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** Package changed: ubuntu => ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
** Tags added: rls-x-incoming
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Title:
LXC/LXD installed by default on Ubuntu server
To
Thank you for taking the time to report this bug and helping to make
Ubuntu better. It seems that your bug report is not filed about a
specific source package though, rather it is just filed against Ubuntu
in general. It is important that bug reports be filed about source
packages so that people
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
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Status: New => Confirmed
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