[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-09-17 Thread Jarno Suni
Anyway, it would be good, if other software could optionally remove new unused packages. I do not consider Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-New-Unused-Dependencies as an reasonable default option for unattended-upgrades before the feature has been released for at least apt, update-manager, gnome-soft

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-09-16 Thread Jarno Suni
I meant deciding which packages are excessive or unneeded should be possible also after upgrading, not only in conjunction with upgrading. I still do not get it why advanced users could not make sure the packages needed by their not packaged software is not marked as manually installed. -- You r

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-09-16 Thread Jarno Suni
Minus last "not" -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software To manage n

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-09-14 Thread Jarno Suni
I think removing "newly unused" packages is an ugly hack. Deciding which packages are excessive or unneeded should not depend on how some packages were removed previously. If the reason for this automatic remove thing is to get rid of excessive kernels, a specific tool for that could be used. I hav

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-09-14 Thread Balint Reczey
@Jarno I added update-manager based on my experience with (less experienced) users, who kept their system up-to-date by saying yes to everything regarding updates which popped up on their system. They never touched apt or synaptic nor installed packages by themselves by other means. I think remov

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-09-13 Thread Jarno Suni
I think less advanced users do not install software that is not packaged. Advanced users can configure system to work as they wish. IMO currently Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-New-Unused-Dependencies is more risky as default. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu B

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-09-13 Thread Jarno Suni
rbalint, user could mark such packages as manually installed (by apt- mark), so autoremove will not remove them. If you mark update-manager affected, you should mark other updaters, too. E.g. 'apt full-upgrade' or Synaptic will not remove newly unused packages, right? -- You received this bug no

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-09-13 Thread Balint Reczey
Added update-manager as affected package because update-manager is the tool leaving newly unused packages around. ** Also affects: update-manager (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribe

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-09-12 Thread Balint Reczey
@Jarno: IMO Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies is already a risky option and I don't recommend enabling it because it may remove packages which are not used according the to package-dependency chain but which users rely on using software that is not packaged. The only place I would u

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-09-12 Thread Balint Reczey
I suggest marking that bug as Won't Fix. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by oth

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-09-11 Thread Brian Murray
** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Artful) Assignee: Canonical Foundations Team (canonical-foundations) => Balint Reczey (rbalint) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 T

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-06-22 Thread Steve Langasek
** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Artful) Assignee: (unassigned) => Steve Langasek (vorlon) ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Artful) Assignee: Steve Langasek (vorlon) => Canonical Foundations Team (canonical-foundations) -- You received this bug notification because

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-06-09 Thread Brian Murray
** Also affects: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu Artful) Importance: High Status: Confirmed ** Tags removed: rls-aa-incoming -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: Unabl

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-05-01 Thread Brian Murray
** Tags removed: rls-z-incoming ** Tags added: rls-aa-incoming -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunctio

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-03-22 Thread Jarno Suni
Besides: If you do not want automatic updates, but just automatic removal of unnecessary software including kernels, you could have 'Download and install updates automatically' set, but edit /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades to have only comments within Unattended-Upgrade::Allowed-Origin

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2017-03-22 Thread Jarno Suni
A fix could be adding line Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-Unused-Dependencies "true"; in /etc/apt/apt.conf.d/50unattended-upgrades But does it remove too many packages? Why was Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-New-Unused-Dependencies "true"; setting ever added? -- You received this bug notification becaus

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2016-12-14 Thread Brian Murray
** Tags added: rls-z-incoming -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2016-09-27 Thread Alberto Salvia Novella
** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused i

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2016-09-22 Thread Jarno Suni
I run /etc/kernel/postinst.d/apt-auto-removal on each boot. That also makes the "Unattended-Upgrade::Remove-New-Unused-Dependencies" setting not work. (See Bug #1615381.) -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.la

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2016-09-21 Thread Jarno Suni
Nikita, what do you mean by that it does not occur always? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction wi

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2016-09-21 Thread Nikita Yerenkov-Scott
I find that on most times the bug occurs, but not always. Though it has caused me some problems before with /boot filling up and me being forced to manually remove the old kernels. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https:

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2016-09-21 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: unattended-upgrades (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644

[Bug 1624644] Re: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in conjunction with updating by other software

2016-09-21 Thread Jarno Suni
It seems like the bug occured here: http://askubuntu.com/q/827114/21005 -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1624644 Title: Unable to automatically remove packages that become unused in c