[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2024-04-09 Thread Henry Coggill
I've observed the same behaviour with Noble installer, and it does appear to be very counter-intuitive for a user to select "Don't send" and then be told that their send request failed. On a related point, the UI appears to block on this network request - which is probably not necessary - and

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-10-24 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
The fact that you claim to not log or store the IP address is beside my point, which is that the IP address is _transferred_ out of the machine even when the user said no to submitting any information. If consent is your legal basis for submitting information to Ubuntu, it is not valid for

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-10-19 Thread Will Cooke
IP addresses are not logged or stored. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1761739 Title: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected To manage

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-10-19 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Of course IP information is sent. Any HTTP connection will pass on the IP address of the other end during establishment of its TCP/IP connection. The fact that HTTP is used over TCP is enough to send the IP address. It could be avoided by enforcing the use of Tor or similar, but that is purely

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-10-19 Thread Sebastien Bacher
There is no IP info being sent -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1761739 Title: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected To manage

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-10-19 Thread Petter Reinholdtsen
Note, with the current privacy regulations, if Canonical uses consent as the base for submitting this information for collection, I am quite sure it would be against the law to send IP address to a Canonical server when consent is missing. Sending IP address provides time, location and the fact

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-09-02 Thread Matthew Paul Thomas
> I've confirmed with Jamie B that the ping still needs to be sent > mpt's going to come up with something better I’m happy to come up with something better, if there’s a reason that I can explain. As I understand it, we let you decline data collection in case you are concerned about privacy.

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-05-02 Thread Iain Lane
cents -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1761739 Title: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected To manage notifications about this bug go

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-05-02 Thread Iain Lane
My personal opinion is that saying "don't send" when we do send something is the misleading part. OK, maybe no system info is being sent - but something else is and we haven't said that. If others disagree with me then they are free to close the bug, this is just my 2. -- You received this bug

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-05-02 Thread Sebastien Bacher
The wording has been changing to "No, don't send system info" which is less misleading since it's indeed not sending any system info, unsure if that's good enough to consider the issue as resolved? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-04-10 Thread Robert Ancell
I was looking at updating the "Show First Report" button to show the empty report content if you select "No" but I think that might be misleading. If you select "No", then "Show First Report" then "Yes" you might not notice the text has changed. Perhaps we should change the design to show the

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-04-10 Thread Iain Lane
(This is probably being tracked elsewhere, but the linked privacy policy might need updating for this. Currently, it mentions *storing* IP addresses in relation to dash searches, and there's not really any other mention apart from Canonical may collect non-personally-identifying information of

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-04-10 Thread Will Cooke
To be clear - IP address are not being saved to the database. The data will of course have to come from an IP address, but we're not recording the data submitted against and IP address. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-04-10 Thread Iain Lane
mpt's going to come up with something better, but it probably shouldn't be a yes/no question - rather a radio something like - Send full report containing system information (view) - Send basic report which only reveals your internet address and that you installed Ubuntu flavour version … --

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-04-10 Thread Iain Lane
Can we use this bug as a release bug to track that request then maybe? One additional reason I'm a bit concerned is that there's (sensibly since otherwise you can end up with an incompletely configured machine) no way to quit gnome-initial-setup, so any wording will need to say that we're sending

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-04-10 Thread Jeremy Bicha
or slightly better: "No, tell Canonical I don't want to send my system info." -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1761739 Title: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-04-10 Thread Jeremy Bicha
Wording for this feels like it's going to be awkward. Here's one suggestion "No, tell Canonical I don't want to send this information." -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1761739 Title:

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-04-10 Thread Jeremy Bicha
Current screenshot for reference ** Attachment added: "ubuntu-welcome-20180408-help-improve.png" https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/gnome-initial-setup/+bug/1761739/+attachment/5109378/+files/ubuntu-welcome-20180408-help-improve.png -- You received this bug notification because you

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-04-10 Thread Will Cooke
I've confirmed with Jamie B that the ping still needs to be sent, so we need to work with design on improving the wording and making it clear than something will still be sent, perhaps showing the contents. I'll email mpt and ask for info and CC the relevant parties. ** Tags removed:

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-04-09 Thread Robert Ancell
We should definitely make a design call ASAP on this. ** Changed in: gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => High ** Changed in: gnome-initial-setup (Ubuntu) Status: New => Triaged -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 1761739] Re: Submits a message to a remote server even when "No, don't send any info" is selected

2018-04-06 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Right, note that it was described on the list topic https://lists.ubuntu.com/archives/ubuntu-devel/2018-February/040139.html "Any user can simply opt out by unchecking the box, which triggers one simple POST stating, “diagnostics=false”." there was some questions/replies about that in the