[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2009-02-22 Thread Milan
If it has something to do with the HD's firmware, I don't expect that somebody will fix that. Thanks for your informations. Though, please note that there have been HD-related upgrades recently in Intrepid, so maybe when you installed Ubuntu on the other computer, the fix came in, and this is why y

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2009-02-22 Thread Enrico Nadrag
I had this strange behaviour too. On a MB (GA/nforce560) I used a Seagate 7200.11 (SATA) and a fresh install of Ubuntu 8.10. I noticed a HDD activity every 4-5 sec, which was very annoying. Because of the Firmware bug of the Harddisc I decided to replace the HDD with another one. I took a Seagat

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2009-01-17 Thread Milan
This means that you've set the HD_IDLE_TIMEOUT_SECONDS to a value high enough to prevent the disk from sleeping at all. I'd have hoped the opposite. If you don't hear the disk heads unparking, then laptop mode doesn't fix anything but has just the side-effect of keeping your disk up. Please report

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2009-01-17 Thread christopherdstamper
@Milan: Enabled laptop mode, rebooted. Disk access continues, though not as predictable. BUT, now I don't hear the annoying 'disk-unpark' noise, or whatever you want to call it. So I guess it's a partial fix... -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You rec

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2009-01-17 Thread Milan
If you have some time, it would be useful to test whether enabling laptop-mode solves the problem, and else report a bug against the sysklogd package. Getting a better disk parking management in Ubuntu would be really great. -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2009-01-17 Thread christopherdstamper
@Milan: There are no applicable entries in any of the logs, or in dmesg. Apparently, it's just accessing the hd, and doing nothing. Gotta go kill klog before it makes me crazy... ;-) -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notificatio

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2009-01-17 Thread Milan
Normally laptop-mode should not raise any problems, if you configure it so that your disk heads don't park too often. If klogd was your problem, can you have a look at your log files to find the precise cause? It would be nice to fix this. For example, use the Log Viewer (System->Administration) to

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2009-01-17 Thread christopherdstamper
@Milan: Are there any downsides to using laptop mode? For me, killing klogd fixed the problem. Guess I don't need the kernel log that much anyway... -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubunt

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2009-01-16 Thread Milan
justanotherjoe: This bug is not that about disk parking. Here we're dealing with disk access, which is obviously related, but different. christopherdstamper: Enabling laptop-mode can solve your problem, in particular when on battery. Edit /etc/default/acpi-support and set ENABLE_LAPTOP_MODE=true,

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2009-01-16 Thread justanotherjoe
Hard disk parking has been an issue on my laptops (IBM T20 & T21) since at least 7.04 Beta. It appears to be the result of a lack of "open"-ness on APM standards, and succeeding arguments between manufacturers, programmers, and developers. Some argue that it may be shenanigans orchestrated in Red

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2009-01-15 Thread christopherdstamper
I'm having the same problem here, on an 8.10 laptop. I've actually had it since at least 8.04... Any suggestions? I've noticed that most the posts here were for older versions of Ubuntu. -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notifica

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2008-06-03 Thread samuel
sh*t, what actually happened is that I was suffering the hdparm bug and my headache was the drilling sound of obsesive parking. sudo hdparm -B 255 /dev/sda http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=5109109&postcount=9 (laptop-mode stills being a great app) -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2008-06-02 Thread Milan
Well, this is nice to know, but you should not need to install laptop- mode-tools to avoid your HD being accessed everytime. There's still problem in some program. -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification because you are a m

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2008-06-01 Thread samuel
Just followed the steps posted by Pneuma https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/dbus/+bug/17878/comments/37 and they worked great. I am seriously considering to buy an SSD drive to gain quietness on my laptop. -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2008-04-22 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: dbus (Ubuntu) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop (ubuntu-desktop) => (unassigned) -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs ma

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2008-04-08 Thread Piotr Zaryk
** Changed in: dbus (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop (ubuntu-desktop) -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mai

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2008-04-07 Thread justanotherjoe
I followed Pneuma comments from January 20, 2008, and viola - the hard drive clicking stopped, and has not returned. The only thing I did different was that I used the latest laptop-tools. I have a T-21 IBM, running clean install of Ubuntu 7.1 with all of the latest updates to date. Absolutely

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2008-03-27 Thread wangrui
Hi, this problem had bothered me for a very long time one month ago. I used a flash disk to host the root partition to solve the problem. But after a month, I find the flash disk was easily lost data even with readonly all the time. So I moved back to hard disk. But the unionfs solution seems works

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2008-01-20 Thread Pneuma
I had the exact same problem with 7.10 Gutsy on a Dell Inspiron 1150 laptop - hard drive clicked every few seconds. The System Monitor I have in the panel confirmed this - with every click, there would be a spike in the graph. I managed to COMPLETELY FIX the problem based on what some people here

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-12-17 Thread Dennis Murczak
Confirmed on my desktop with Kubuntu Gutsy. 20 or so seconds after the KDE desktop has appeared and there is still a lot of hard disk activity, it starts clicking like crazy, but without slowing down the system considerably, and after 2 or 3 minutes enters the well-known state where clicking occure

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-11-15 Thread Jim Qode
I tried every trick on this list and nothing worked. I have a sony vaio VGN-N395E laptop with hitachi HTS541616J9SA00 disk. Fedora does not do this. So there should be a way to make it work. I'm attaching btrace log. ** Attachment added: "btrace.txt" http://launchpadlibrarian.net/10388391/bt

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-11-07 Thread ubuntu_demon
btrace howto : http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=3722850&postcount=374 -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-11-06 Thread ubuntu_demon
To use btrace you need to do this : sudo aptitude install blktrace sudo mount -t debugfs none_debug /sys/kernel/debug sudo btrace /dev/sda -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, wh

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-11-06 Thread ubuntu_demon
This might be one of the contributors to the famous Load_Cycle_Count bug : https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/17216 https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/acpi-support/+bug/59695 -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You receive

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-09-19 Thread Jeff Schroeder
Since bug 118303 has been resolved, there is another tool you can use. It is called blktrace and has a wrapper script called btrace that will spit out a (mostly) human readable format of what processes are eating your disk up. Type mount to see what volumes / partitions you have mounted. Here is a

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-08-14 Thread Jeff Schroeder
pdflush will write to disk less if you put this at the bottom of /etc/sysctl.conf: # From powertop vm.dirty_writeback_centisecs=1500 After that, run sudo sysctl -p for the new changes to take affect. This was a suggestion from powertop which does seem to lower disk writes by increasing the amo

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-27 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
Jeff: You will need to reboot/start the initscript after installing it for there to be any affect. There is documentation on laptop-mode in /usr/share/doc/laptop-mode-tools/ ... -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification bec

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-27 Thread Jeff Fortin
I'm not sure what laptop-mode does, but I just tested and it seems to me the pdflush trick is still needed. Of course nothing is certain :| -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, wh

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-27 Thread Jeff Fortin
well the fact is that disabling only access times, or only syslogkd, or whatever, yields no results. It's *only* when I disabled them all together that I was able to get some (drive) sleep! Interestingly enough, the laptop-mode package is not installed on my machine. I would have thought that thin

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-27 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
Jeff: 1) By default (i.e. on a desktop) flushing every 30 seconds can reduce disk I/O pressure (i.e. it reduces pressure later on because that data is already on disk). 2) Was that not mentioned? Disabling atime is usually among the first suggestions... 3) I don't think I'd go so far as to disab

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-27 Thread Jeff Fortin
Hourra! Hourra! I succeeded! I was FINALLY able to make my laptop completely silent! And have its drive spin down (and stay in sleep) for the first time of my life! ^_^ What I did: 1- make the pdflush intervall MUCH longer. 10 minutes instead of 5 seconds (developers: could I get a comment on thi

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-20 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
Pirotr: Nope - I think you've roundly debunked my suggestions : ) -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@list

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-20 Thread Piotr Makowski
I'm not using a laptop, so... Any suggestions? -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is a direct subscriber. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https:

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-20 Thread Jeff Fortin
I don't know for Piotr, but I, personally, suffered from this bug since ubuntu 4.10, on different laptops, with or without optical drives. My current one has the dvd/cdrw drive removed (because it's heavy and sometimes messes up suspend), so the redhat bug does not seem related for me. -- hard di

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-20 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
padre999: Are you using a laptop? Do you also have a CD/DVD drive in that laptop? If so this sounds similar to https://bugzilla.redhat.com/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=213995 ... -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification becaus

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-19 Thread Piotr Makowski
I noticed that disc also cannot be accesed for 4 seconds which causes lots of delays. I have to run applications twice sometimes and whole performance is poor. On the same computer Mandriva 2007 works perfect. Where''s the problem? -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.n

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-19 Thread padre999
@sitsofe the hdd is not accessed every few secs or so but in a precise interval accompanied with a clearly audible click. You can see this in the graphic I attached further up in the thread. I do not have this problem when I use other Linux Distros. I know this behavior only from Ubuntu and it is

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-17 Thread Sitsofe Wheeler
If you aren't running your machine in laptop-mode (which is an explicit setting) it is expected that the hard disk will be accessed every few seconds or so as data will be being written to the journal frequently to the partition journal keep things consistent in the case of a crash. Additionally, i

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-05-15 Thread Piotr Makowski
I have the same problem in Feisty. I have to switch to another distribution because Ubuntu with this bug is tooo slow. I just can't work. -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/17878 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, whic

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-04-03 Thread padre999
I support Jeff Fortin's suspicion that pdflush might be the culprit. In the first run there were not so many audible hdd clicks. In the second run I had almost constant hdd 5secs clicks. The number of pdflush writes in the second run were 61. That fits perfectly the number of accesses for a 5 minut

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-04-03 Thread padre999
Thank you Jeff Schroeder. I run the procedure you described on my laptop on an up to date Ubuntu Edgy Eft. Attached see the output of the two runs I did. Clearly on top of the list is kjournald. And there are two instances running of it!? Anyway I am not so good in reading the log files, that's u

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-04-03 Thread Jeff Fortin
I have tested on Feisty. This is the output if I stop syslogd beforehand. Wtf is going on with pdflush? I have 768mb of RAM and only 1/3 is in use, from what I understand that thing is there to flush processes to the hard drive? Oh yeah, and my computer was completely idle while doing the tests. [

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-03-22 Thread Jeff Schroeder
Forgot to restart syslogd: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /etc/init.d/sysklogd stop Note that [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# is my root prompt and yours will be different. -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://launchpad.net/bugs/17878 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://l

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-03-22 Thread Jeff Schroeder
Here is how you can find out the top offenders of what processes are using your disk: First, you need to configure your system to log every single disk write. Here is how: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ sudo -i Password: [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# /etc/init.d/sysklogd stop [EMAIL PROTECTED]:~# echo 1 > /proc/sy

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-03-22 Thread Laurent Bigonville
In my dmesg I have a line about commiting the fs journal: kjournald starting. Commit interval 5 seconds. Could be the source of the disk access? -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://launchpad.net/bugs/17878 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ub

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-03-22 Thread padre999
The problem persists. Running an up to date Edgy Eft. Hdd access every 5 seconds with a loud click on my laptop and desktop. Very annoying. As I could see at Ubuntuforums it will be still there in Feisty. http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=2321063&postcount=45 Some activity or feedback from t

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-02-26 Thread Brian Murray
** Changed in: Ubuntu Sourcepackagename: None => dbus -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://launchpad.net/bugs/17878 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-02-25 Thread mimithebrain
Same problem, no fix that I know of. -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://launchpad.net/bugs/17878 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2007-02-14 Thread Slade Winstone
I'm suffering from this too. Running Edgy, 2.6.17-11-generic on an Asus A8M laptop. I'm seeing constant hdd access every 2-3 seconds. Does anybody have any ideas? -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://launchpad.net/bugs/17878 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.co

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2006-09-27 Thread Jeff Fortin
I am still here. Now, I'm running Dapper and Edgy, and this problem still is not gone. Any dev knows what actually could be going on here? If only I knew the cause, it would not be so irritating. -- hard disk being accessed every 4 sec. https://launchpad.net/bugs/17878 -- ubuntu-bugs mailing li

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2006-09-10 Thread padre999
Hi everybody. I have the same annoying problem on my Desktop since a while. This is on Ubuntu Dapper 6.06. But I have to say that the write access to the disk is every 5 secs and not 4 secs on my computer. They are blocks of about 30-70 kb written to the disk as GkrellM tells me. There are als

[Bug 17878] Re: hard disk being accessed every 4 sec.

2006-07-02 Thread Freakcode
Same issue in Dapper for me, too. There is HDD activity only when dbus service is started, so he is the guilty for Dapper. This is a SERIOUS bug, because I cant kill dbus without breaking GNOME functionality. There is low OpenGL performance too, when I got HDD I/O, the OpenGL "frezees" for a mome