[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2021-02-07 Thread Mike Carifio
I'm also confused about the expected settings of XDG_{CACHE,CONFIG,DATA}_HOME in a snap and their relationship(s) to SNAP_USER_{COMMON,DATA}. Unfortunately, chromium isn't a good example to disentagle them. Chromium (or chrome) doesn't seem to respect these values either. Rather than state what ch

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2021-01-26 Thread Jeff
Thank you, Olivier. After spending an afternoon analyzing backups, I arrived at a similar conclusion and decided that adding an exclude pattern */chromium/*/*Cache in addition to the one that excludes */.cache is going to be the right thing to do to solve our immediate problem. -- You received

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2021-01-26 Thread Olivier Tilloy
As previously discussed, this issue is twofold: - upstream chromium stores parts of its cache in the profile folder (that's https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1106754) - the snap format enforces that apps' cache folder is under $HOME/snap/$SNAP_NAME/common/.cache The first p

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2021-01-24 Thread Avamander
@~malakai1197 You're out of luck really, switch distributions that don't use half- baked snaps. Maintainers think that this usability regression is an "opinion" and that tells really more than enough. -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscri

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2021-01-24 Thread Jeff Jahr
Please see comment #20. My online backup set specifically excludes $HOME/.cache (the default or unset value of $XDG_CACHE_HOME) to avoid churning backup snapshots with transient application cache data. I don't know if chromium ever respected $XDG_CACHE_HOME (it would appear from the bug report me

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2021-01-03 Thread Bast1aan
Also run into this issue. I used to exclude cache data from backups by simply excluding $HOME/.cache . Since the introduction of Snap apps, I have the troublesome task to exclude every .cache folder per snap app separately in the backup script. Especially with apps like Spotify it is necessary for

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-31 Thread Avamander
> Bug reports should stick to fact, using wording like 'Snap-mangled' I'm sorry, that's factually what happened. Should I have worded it Snap- disfigured, Snap-distorted, Snap-impaired or Snap-wrecked instead? > isn't appropriate and not a basis for any discussion. I have **never** had any softw

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-31 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thank you for your bug report but to maintain a respectful atmosphere, please follow the code of conduct - http://www.ubuntu.com/project/about- ubuntu/conduct. Bug reports are handled by humans, the majority of whom are volunteers, so please bear this in mind. Bug reports should stick to fact, usi

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-31 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: chromium-browser Status: New => Invalid ** Changed in: chromium-browser (Ubuntu) Status: New => Opinion -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1887804 Title: chr

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-30 Thread Avamander
Just to be sure you didn't miss a few facts here as you really like to rub it under people's noses: * Snap mangles Chromium's configuration directory * Snap-mangled Chromium configuration directory is not backupable * Snap-mangled Chromium configuration directory is not compliant with the de fac

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-30 Thread Avamander
> Anything else has little objective value. That's just your opinion. > That's not an assumption, it's a fact: https://snapcraft.io/docs /installing-snapd. It's an assumption, there are a lot of distributions that stay away from snap. > Most (average) users don't care about packaging formats at

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-30 Thread Olivier Tilloy
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1575053 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1575053 > `$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/$SOFTWARE_NAME` is the de facto way That's different from "does not follow the XDG base directory specification". A specification (hopefully) is unambiguous. Anything else has little obj

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-30 Thread Avamander
> I don't think the specification¹ mandates how folders should be structured under $XDG_DATA_HOME and $XDG_CONFIG_HOME. `$XDG_CONFIG_HOME/$SOFTWARE_NAME` is the de facto way, snap ignores it. Technically, yes, you're absolutely free to use hashes instead of your software's name when you store thin

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-30 Thread Olivier Tilloy
I don't think the specification¹ mandates how folders should be structured under $XDG_DATA_HOME and $XDG_CONFIG_HOME. Or is there a follow-up specification that does that? Hopefully snapd behaves (mostly) the same on all supported distributions, so distro-hopping shouldn't be a concern either. ¹

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-29 Thread Avamander
> How so? The actual software of which the configuration belongs to is chromium (or "notes"), not snap, snap is "just there" in the middle. Say I want to wipe snap's configuration, I should be able to wipe `$XDG_DATA_HOME/snap` without losing my n+1 snap application's data. Very simply put, `$XDG

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-29 Thread Olivier Tilloy
> That's still incorrect. How so? -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1887804 Title: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification To manage notifications about this

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-29 Thread Avamander
> Therefore snap packages should base the value of SNAP_USER_DATA on the value of XDG_DATA_HOME (or its specified default). For the "notes" snap, this would be "$HOME/.local/share/snap/notes/1". That's still incorrect. > As to comment #6, can you elaborate on how you copied the existing profile?

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-29 Thread Olivier Tilloy
Thanks for the upstream bug, I'll be following it closely. Regarding the other half of the problem (XDG base directory specification compliance), bug #1575053 does say this in its description: Therefore snap packages should base the value of SNAP_USER_DATA on the value of XDG_DATA_HOME (or it

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-17 Thread Avamander
Oh and I didn't confirm my own bug, that was done by the janitor because someone else felt that this affects them, I just restored the previous status. ** Also affects: chromium-browser Importance: Undecided Status: New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-17 Thread Avamander
I also have to repeat that currently, copying over the folder contents you mentioned did NOT result in a working instance of Chromium. All of my extensions broke, databases failed to open, the common folder is just incomplete and needs attention. Please do try it yourself. That absolutely 100% NOT

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-17 Thread Avamander
Upstream bug report that would resolve a half of this issue: https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/detail?id=1106754 Just to summarize what's left broken by this specific Ubuntu package: * Config and cache are not in the folders defined by the base directory specification * Current `co

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-17 Thread Avamander
> You're right, it does contain cache data. That would be an upstream bug, can you please file it at https://bugs.chromium.org/p/chromium/issues/entry ? I will > I just found bug #1575053 which looks very similar to your issue, so I'm going to mark it as duplicate, and I encourage you to read al

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-17 Thread Olivier Tilloy
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1575053 *** https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1575053 Please do not confirm your own bugs. > Change the folder it's confined to. As I explained earlier it's a security feature implemented by snapd, the chromium snap doesn't get to choose where its data is sto

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-16 Thread Avamander
> The chromium snap is strictly confined, and that means that it cannot read/write to hidden directories inside the user's home folder (such as $HOME/.config or $HOME/.cache). Change the folder it's confined to. > That one is stored in $HOME/chromium/common/.cache/ No, not really. The profile fo

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-16 Thread Olivier Tilloy
The chromium snap is strictly confined, and that means that it cannot read/write to hidden directories inside the user's home folder (such as $HOME/.config or $HOME/.cache). That's a security feature to prevent snap applications from reading other applications' data. Instead, as you've found out,

[Bug 1887804] Re: chromium-browser does not follow XDG base directory specification

2020-07-16 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: chromium-browser (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1887804 Ti