Confirmed that external AppleKeyboard by default does not handle function keys
with distro:
Linux juansolsona-XPS-15-9550 4.8.0-41-generic #44~16.04.1-Ubuntu SMP Fri Mar 3
17:11:16 UTC 2017 x86_64 x86_64 x86_64 GNU/Linux
My way to fix it was
add to the file /etc/rc.local
the line " echo 2 >
Mario Limonciello, this bug was reported a while ago and there hasn't
been any activity in it recently. We were wondering if this is still an
issue? If so, could you please test for this with the latest development
release of Ubuntu? ISO images are available from
In Ubuntu 13.04 (Raring) I still have to press Fn to get to the function
keys. The fix Samuel mentioned in comment #44 above still works fine.
I have to set up this manually time I install a new version of Ubuntu,
which is annoying. I'd love for no-Fn to be the default - could Ubuntu
consider
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Apple fn key behavior isn't consistent with what's expected
To manage
The best way to fix this (worked well for me for several years)
is to append the needed module parameters to the kernel command line.
sudo vi /etc/default/grub
and change
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash
to
GRUB_CMDLINE_LINUX_DEFAULT=quiet splash hid_apple.fnmode=2
or
I've run Ubuntu on my Apple machines for several years now and I've
found the current approach (requiring the pressing of the fn key) to be
very intuitive. I do have a friend however who bought an Apple keyboard
for his Whitebox PC and he never thought to even try holding 'fn'. But
you can't win
Is there any possibility that this 'normal' F1-F15 behaviour could be
switchable using the GNOME
System-Preferences-Keyboard-Layouts-Options dialog? That would be
the best solution that allows people to reconfigure according to their
wishes?
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Agreed.
The logic behind making the new default is based on assumptions which
are surely wrong.
The logic behind making this default, whether it's terrible or sensible,
take place in the kernel instead of in X or the desktop environment is
inexplicable.
The logic behind requiring the user to
There should be a way to vote bugs up.
The default behaviour is seriously annoying. Lots and lots of keyboard
shortcuts use FN keys, and having to press the fn button on Apple keyboards to
access those shortcuts REALLY IS a finger excercise. Please, plase change
this behaviour for 10.04.
I have to agree, an option in the keyboard settings for fnmode would be
helpful, like:
Use F1, F2 as function keys
I think having the special keys as default (as on OS X) is fine.
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@Ralf Ebert: I also agree with an option for the Fn keys but I disagree
to have the default as in OS-X. I think initiating the Applications menu
by pressing fn + alt + F1 is quite a finger excercise :-)
Regards
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There is any plan for make the choice of the Fn keys behaviour more
friendly? Like an option on the keyboard preferences panel?
On karmic I should put a new command in rc.local as #44.
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You
This bug report is not incomplete, all the information + strong user
support is here. Does anyone actually want the broken behavior on their
own behalf, not just on that of 'the people'. This is a clear cut issue
and requires only small changes to get it usable again.
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I can also confirm the bug still exists in Jaunty:
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description:Ubuntu 9.04
Release:9.04
Codename: jaunty
Linux 2.6.28-13-generic #45-Ubuntu SMP Tue Jun 30 22:12:12 UTC 2009 x86_64
GNU/Linux
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Apple fn key behavior isn't consistent with what's expected
The following fix works for me running:
OS: Linux, Ubuntu 9.04 \n \l
Kernel: 2.6.28-13-generic
* Edit /etc/rc.local
* Add before exit 0:
echo 2 /sys/module/hid_apple/parameters/fnmode
* Reboot
After that, the function keys worked fine for me without pressing Fn.
For more history and
Unfortunately it seems this bug is still an issue. Can you confirm this
issue exists with the most recent Jaunty Jackalope 9.04 release -
http://www.ubuntu.com/news/ubuntu-9.04-desktop . Please let us know
your results.
If the issue remains while still running Jaunty, please run the
following
I can confirm bug still exist in Jaunty (AMD64).
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My Logitech Illuminated keyboard has the same sort of Fn key behavior.
I'd agree that a Misc compatibility option for these keyboards would be
best.
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I think everyone is forgetting that on Mac OS X you can go into System
Preferences and change this behavior at any time. I believe it would be
best if Keyboard Preferences had a similar option -- perhaps under
Miscellaneous compatibility options.
I also believe that using fn to toggle the status
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i agree. Default behaviour is terrible. Using function key is terrible
and difficult.
Just to make alt-f4 you need both hand.
When you press fn change must be permanent (until you press it again).
This is the right way.
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I can confirm on my desktop machine that the fn key works as expected,
though I don't believe this is default behaviour.
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Indeed, bug still exists on Intrepid
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I have just installed ibex, and can confirm that this bug still exists
on the 2.6.27-7-generic kernel.
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Tested the Intrepid daily live CD just now (31AUG2008), on a Macbook
Air. I cannot determine from the thread whether the default beviour will
be changed to linux standard, from the current mac standard, but
these are my two cents on the matter. My first problem was to debug a
non-functional mouse
The Ubuntu Kernel Team is planning to move to the 2.6.27 kernel for the
upcoming Intrepid Ibex 8.10 release. As a result, the kernel team would
appreciate it if you could please test this newer 2.6.27 Ubuntu kernel.
There are one of two ways you should be able to test:
1) If you are comfortable
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Just createt a swallow-the-alu-pill tux mascot to see if that helps
;-)
http://bugzilla.kernel.org/attachment.cgi?id=16318action=edit
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Thanks Tommy, that works really well. I had changed my
/etc/modprobe.conf to the same effect.
The trouble with pb_fnmode=0 is that the fn key doesn't modify the F*
keys at all now -- they remain F* keys.
This is nevertheless a great improvement. Why isn't this a default
setting?
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You must add option hid pb_fnmode=2 in /etc/modprobe.d/options.
AND you must regenerate your initrd image with the command update-initramfs
-u
Yes, I forgot the update-initramfs -u part in
http://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard and someone changed the
page to another non-working
I already tried setting option hid pb_fnmode=2 in both /etc/modprobe.conf
as well as /etc/modprobe.d/options - neither had any effect on a reboot.
Raphael, you're doing it correctly.
You must add option hid pb_fnmode=2 in /etc/modprobe.d/options.
AND you must regenerate your initrd image with
Ubuntu 8.04,
to change pb_fnmode to 2 you need to add following command to /etc/rc.local
file
echo -n 0x02 /sys/module/hid/parameters/pb_fnmode
and then behaviour of function keys will be the same as in 7.04 version.
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Seriously, when working with a highly customizable system such as linux,
shouldn't we be able to tell any key on any keyboard to do anything we
want? If i want my spacebar to act as my F3 key, I should be able to do
that (not that I want to).
Anyway, thank you all for your help in this, hopefully
Jean,
The file that Tommy was likely referring to was /etc/sysctl.conf
On Mon, May 12, 2008 at 7:53 PM, Jean-François Fortin Tam
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Tommy, I tried your trick to edit /etc/sysfs.conf (which does not exist
initially, by the way), but it does not work. The fn key problem
tried with sysctl.conf, no luck either
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Tommy, I tried your trick to edit /etc/sysfs.conf (which does not exist
initially, by the way), but it does not work. The fn key problem is not
solved at all, I still have to use fn to use F* keys.
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Hi Peter, I agree wholeheartedly with your observations. It is
completely crazy to the point where there is actually introduced
remedies to the kernel-madness in the Keyboard Preference program (hint:
see System-Preferences-Keyboard-Layout-Layout Options-Miscellaneous
compatibility options-Swap
Made a small guide for correcting the issues here:
http://help.ubuntu.com/community/AppleKeyboard
Hope it will be helpful for someone.
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Frankly, I am stunned that this ridiculous behaviour has made it into
the Hardy release. The suggestion that this is the behaviour that most
users would want or expect is quite preposterous.
If I plug a standard keyboard into a machine running OS X it behaves the
same as if I plug in an Apple
AFAIK, this bug is about the numlock problem.
For the definition of the correct fn key behavior, the correct bug
seems to be https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/201711
,
For the swapped and @#, see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/214786
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Frédéric is creating links between the multiple issues. There's also
some strong arguments in
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/201887 for why the
current default behaviour is wrong.
I wrote there, in support of the same arguments eloquently made by
Tommy, Luke, Nicolas and
Wether this a bug or not, this problem and how to fix it is documented
in https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook ,
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBook_Santa_Rosa and
https://help.ubuntu.com/community/MacBookPro with different solutions. I
think it's time to write a new entry in the wiki
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Yes!
I am not a Mac guy either, and in fact these fantastic Apple keyboards
are becoming so popular amongst regular PC users that normal computer
shops are beginning to sell them. For these users Hardy will be an
unpleasant experience. It is interesting that the original argumentation
was that
Comments from users indicate that a Won't Fix really isn't appropriate
in this case -- Suse has decided to fix this bug, so should Ubuntu.
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Making the function keys only accessible after pressing the fn key is
terribly unintuitive. There are a few points that seem to be in favour
of making the behaviour of this keyboard like all other keyboards with
respect to function keys.
* Although this is standard behaviour for macs, I see no
I'd also like to add that MacOS X allows a choice of behaviors; out of
the box, they're special keys by default (after all, they were designed
for Mac use, and there's an Exposé key and a Dashboard key to prove it),
but that can be turned off, and the MacBook fanatics I know have set
them to being
Hi Raphael,
I *really* agree with you. I bought this nice shiny Apple keyboard for my
Ubuntu desktop and it just worked perfectly. Then someone got this brilliant
idea of adding all sorts of quirks in the kernel to emulate some MacOS X
behavior and now suddenly overnight the keyboard became
Thanks for all the help, unfortunately that still isn't working for
me...
...I give up...quite honestly it's beyond me why the devs think that
breaking (or at the very least making it very arkward to use) keycombos
across hundreds if not thousands of existing linux application is a
bright idea
Thanks Mario - setting the /sys parameter works, however I can't get the
modprobe option to work. I already tried setting option hid
pb_fnmode=2 in both /etc/modprobe.conf as well as
/etc/modprobe.d/options - neither had any effect on a reboot. Did
something change in u8.04 re. module
These strings will go inside /etc/modprobe.d/FILE
Where file is one you create.
Mario Limonciello
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On Mar 24, 2008, at 4:25, Raphael Huerzeler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Thanks Mario - setting the /sys parameter works, however I can't get
the
hmm...I created /etc/modprobe.d/hid and added the line:
options hid pb_fnmode=2
that doesn't work however, after a reboot the keyboard is still set to
pb_fnmode=1...am I missing something here?
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options usbhid pb_fnmode=2
Is what you should be doing.
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The new behaviour makes the keyboard essentially unusable for me - tons
of apps have F-keys mapped in linux and having to press fn to use normal
f-keys just makes thinks very arkward - not to mention that having to
press fn-alt-ctrl-f1 to switch to a console is just ridiculous.
Is there any way
Raphael, to change this behavior:
/sys/module/hid/parameters/pb_fnmode set that to 2.
You can change it at startup by adding it as a modprobe option as well.
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attaching patch to change this behavior
** Attachment added:
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As commented on by mjg:
My experience is that the majority of users who run Linux on Apple
hardware are also used to MacOS, and so maintaining consistency with it
is worthwhile. That's entirely independent of the fact that altering
this in the kernel would change the default behaviour of the
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