[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Filed bug 341084 to discuss usage of umount -i rather than umount in umountnfs.sh. Please followup there. Updating other status: Nothing to fix in samba or dhcdbd, something to fix in network-manager, and maybe something to fix in wpasupplicant. ** Changed in: sysvinit (Ubuntu) Status:

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
@toobuntu: The _netdev option tells the system (if it doesn't already knows it from the fstype) that the filesystem should be considered mounted on network (and therefore be unmounted in umountnfs.sh rather than umountfs). @Steve Greci (Seems when tracking down the cause of one bug, I encounter

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
Filed bug 341084 to discuss usage of umount -i rather than umount in umountnfs.sh. Please followup there. Updating other status: Nothing to fix in samba or dhcdbd, something to fix in network-manager, and maybe something to fix in wpasupplicant. ** Changed in: sysvinit (Ubuntu) Status:

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-11 Thread Thierry Carrez
@toobuntu: The _netdev option tells the system (if it doesn't already knows it from the fstype) that the filesystem should be considered mounted on network (and therefore be unmounted in umountnfs.sh rather than umountfs). @Steve Greci (Seems when tracking down the cause of one bug, I encounter

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-07 Thread Alexander Sack
Thierry, please extend your approach to not kill wpasupplicant on shutdown either. i think thats the problem that is left with your ppa packages here as the ones reporting that your ppa package doesnt help are using wireless. Once you have that please request a merge for the 0.7.1 branch and if

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-07 Thread Alexander Sack
Thierry, please extend your approach to not kill wpasupplicant on shutdown either. i think thats the problem that is left with your ppa packages here as the ones reporting that your ppa package doesnt help are using wireless. Once you have that please request a merge for the 0.7.1 branch and if

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Thierry Carrez
I think I also need to clarify something here. If you use NetworkManager with per-user settings (i.e. without the system setting checkbox checked) then the network connection is up only during your session. When you log out from your Gnome session, the network connection goes down. This is the

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread toobuntu
@Thierry Carrez: For use case #3, isn't that what the '_netdev' mount option is for? In my fstab, I always use '_netdev' for a network share; I think RedHat considers it a best practice. One could also combine that with 'noauto' and 'user'. The problem with gvfs-smb mounts is that non-gvfs

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Steve Grecni
Thanks for the clarification Thierry. Unfortunately I cannot use it wireless as a system wide setting due to bug #288963 which doesn't have an intrepid backport. Seems when tracking down the cause of one bug, I encounter 3 more to that need to be fixed in order to solve it. :) Maybe I should

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Steve French
OK ... doing a little more investigation it gets interesting to see what crazy things gnome does (you can also try clearing the dmesg log and then doing echo 7 /proc/fs/cifs/cifsFYI before you logoff/umount and see what cifs operations are in dmesg) What I see is that the slow operations are

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Steve French
running without umount.cifs (which is not needed unless you are doing user mounts), the unmount finishes quickly, and with no visible errors (the tree disconnection request times out fairly fast, and the rest of umount proceeds fast after that) -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Steve French
The easiest way to test this is to always do umount -i mnt-point rather than umount mnt-point unless you are doing an umount as a regular user of a user mount (-i prevents the unneeded helper program from being called) -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Bart Samwel
Hi Thierry, Thierry Carrez wrote: I am trying to solve the bug in the (2) case here. If you are in the (3) case (and a lot of you probably are) you should either switch to system setting mode or drop usage of CIFS mounts in favor of Nautilus gvfs-smb mounts. Thanks very much for the detailed

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Thierry Carrez
I think I also need to clarify something here. If you use NetworkManager with per-user settings (i.e. without the system setting checkbox checked) then the network connection is up only during your session. When you log out from your Gnome session, the network connection goes down. This is the

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread toobuntu
@Thierry Carrez: For use case #3, isn't that what the '_netdev' mount option is for? In my fstab, I always use '_netdev' for a network share; I think RedHat considers it a best practice. One could also combine that with 'noauto' and 'user'. The problem with gvfs-smb mounts is that non-gvfs

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Steve Grecni
Thanks for the clarification Thierry. Unfortunately I cannot use it wireless as a system wide setting due to bug #288963 which doesn't have an intrepid backport. Seems when tracking down the cause of one bug, I encounter 3 more to that need to be fixed in order to solve it. :) Maybe I should

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Steve French
OK ... doing a little more investigation it gets interesting to see what crazy things gnome does (you can also try clearing the dmesg log and then doing echo 7 /proc/fs/cifs/cifsFYI before you logoff/umount and see what cifs operations are in dmesg) What I see is that the slow operations are

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Steve French
running without umount.cifs (which is not needed unless you are doing user mounts), the unmount finishes quickly, and with no visible errors (the tree disconnection request times out fairly fast, and the rest of umount proceeds fast after that) -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Steve French
The easiest way to test this is to always do umount -i mnt-point rather than umount mnt-point unless you are doing an umount as a regular user of a user mount (-i prevents the unneeded helper program from being called) -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-06 Thread Bart Samwel
Hi Thierry, Thierry Carrez wrote: I am trying to solve the bug in the (2) case here. If you are in the (3) case (and a lot of you probably are) you should either switch to system setting mode or drop usage of CIFS mounts in favor of Nautilus gvfs-smb mounts. Thanks very much for the detailed

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Steve Grecni
Thierry, I just installed your ppa network-manager packages on Intrepid, and it's still hanging on shutdown (using wireless) with CIFS VFS errors. A fairly fresh UMPC install on a Dell Mini 9. I ran a continuous ping on the machine and network is unavailable nearly immediately after selecting

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Bart Samwel
Thierry Carrez wrote: OK, I uploaded a network-manager upgrade for intrepid to my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~ttx/+archive/ppa This release (built on the latest network-manager in intrepid-proposed) basically prevents network-manager from being shut down by sendsigs... From my testing this

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Bart Samwel
Hi Steve, Steve Grecni wrote: Thierry, I just installed your ppa network-manager packages on Intrepid, and it's still hanging on shutdown (using wireless) with CIFS VFS errors. A fairly fresh UMPC install on a Dell Mini 9. I ran a continuous ping on the machine and network is unavailable

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Bart Samwel
Hi Steve, Steve French wrote: A couple clarifications: 1) We really want the network file systems to be unmounted (or at least synced) before the network goes away. You do not want to risk losing file system data which has been cached by the Linux memory management layer. 2) If there is

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Bart Samwel
Bart Samwel wrote: Would it help to sync before I reboot from the GUI, so that all pending dirty data is flushed to the cifs fs? For the record: nope, that doesn't help. Still hangs. -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Steve Grecni
Things get even weirder, if I select logout from the gnome panel, network goes away, so I log back in as the same user, and network comes back as expected. But if I log out again, network stays up! Tried logging out again, network still stays up. I noticed, if I log out, and then back in, then

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Steve Grecni
Thierry, I just installed your ppa network-manager packages on Intrepid, and it's still hanging on shutdown (using wireless) with CIFS VFS errors. A fairly fresh UMPC install on a Dell Mini 9. I ran a continuous ping on the machine and network is unavailable nearly immediately after selecting

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Bart Samwel
Thierry Carrez wrote: OK, I uploaded a network-manager upgrade for intrepid to my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~ttx/+archive/ppa This release (built on the latest network-manager in intrepid-proposed) basically prevents network-manager from being shut down by sendsigs... From my testing this

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Bart Samwel
Hi Steve, Steve Grecni wrote: Thierry, I just installed your ppa network-manager packages on Intrepid, and it's still hanging on shutdown (using wireless) with CIFS VFS errors. A fairly fresh UMPC install on a Dell Mini 9. I ran a continuous ping on the machine and network is unavailable

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Steve French
A couple clarifications: 1) We really want the network file systems to be unmounted (or at least synced) before the network goes away. You do not want to risk losing file system data which has been cached by the Linux memory management layer. 2) If there is cached write data, we do want the

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Bart Samwel
Hi Steve, Steve French wrote: A couple clarifications: 1) We really want the network file systems to be unmounted (or at least synced) before the network goes away. You do not want to risk losing file system data which has been cached by the Linux memory management layer. 2) If there is

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Bart Samwel
Bart Samwel wrote: Would it help to sync before I reboot from the GUI, so that all pending dirty data is flushed to the cifs fs? For the record: nope, that doesn't help. Still hangs. -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-05 Thread Steve Grecni
Things get even weirder, if I select logout from the gnome panel, network goes away, so I log back in as the same user, and network comes back as expected. But if I log out again, network stays up! Tried logging out again, network still stays up. I noticed, if I log out, and then back in, then

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-04 Thread Thierry Carrez
Just refreshed my PPA (a security update superseded it), please test: 0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu1.8.10.3~ppa1 @Max-Ulrich Farber: I guess WICD has the same bug as NetworkManager (gets killed by sendsigs before the network filesystems are unmounted). If testing shows that the solution for

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-04 Thread Thierry Carrez
Just refreshed my PPA (a security update superseded it), please test: 0.7~~svn20081018t105859-0ubuntu1.8.10.3~ppa1 @Max-Ulrich Farber: I guess WICD has the same bug as NetworkManager (gets killed by sendsigs before the network filesystems are unmounted). If testing shows that the solution for

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-03 Thread Max-Ulrich Farber
I have the same problem, but I had never used Network Manager. I always use WICD. -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-03 Thread Thierry Carrez
OK, I uploaded a network-manager upgrade for intrepid to my PPA: https://launchpad.net/~ttx/+archive/ppa This release (built on the latest network-manager in intrepid-proposed) basically prevents network-manager from being shut down by sendsigs... From my testing this solves the CIFS hanging

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-03 Thread Max-Ulrich Farber
I have the same problem, but I had never used Network Manager. I always use WICD. -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. --

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-02 Thread Thierry Carrez
Quick status update/summary on this bug, because this thread is long and tends to discourage people that could solve it. The bug occurs on shutdown if you mount a CIFS share (using mount or /etc/fstab). In some cases, S31umountnfs.sh tries to unmount the network file system *after* the network

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-02 Thread Thierry Carrez
smfrench: Could you have a look at the CIFS timeout part ? Do you think it's possible to have CIFS more gracefully handle the case where the network is being pulled out from under it ? I can reproduce the issue with the current jaunty kernel, so this wasn't fixed as of the 2.6.28 we use. Or

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-02 Thread Thierry Carrez
Quick status update/summary on this bug, because this thread is long and tends to discourage people that could solve it. The bug occurs on shutdown if you mount a CIFS share (using mount or /etc/fstab). In some cases, S31umountnfs.sh tries to unmount the network file system *after* the network

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-03-02 Thread Thierry Carrez
smfrench: Could you have a look at the CIFS timeout part ? Do you think it's possible to have CIFS more gracefully handle the case where the network is being pulled out from under it ? I can reproduce the issue with the current jaunty kernel, so this wasn't fixed as of the 2.6.28 we use. Or

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-02-25 Thread James
This bug is causing usplash to crap-out on shutdown and display a nice screen of vertical coloured lines, as reported in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/301628 usplash shows the coloured lines at exactly the same time as the CIFS error messages are shown in

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-02-25 Thread James
This bug is causing usplash to crap-out on shutdown and display a nice screen of vertical coloured lines, as reported in this bug: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/usplash/+bug/301628 usplash shows the coloured lines at exactly the same time as the CIFS error messages are shown in

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-02-04 Thread Phillip Hagger
This is disheartening to see that this bug has been around this long and nothing has happened. I have been dealing with it for a while and finally stumbled across it. I found a fix once before that I can't even remember now and I can at least suspend only to find that when I wake my laptop up on

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-02-04 Thread Phillip Hagger
This is disheartening to see that this bug has been around this long and nothing has happened. I have been dealing with it for a while and finally stumbled across it. I found a fix once before that I can't even remember now and I can at least suspend only to find that when I wake my laptop up on

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-02-03 Thread Tom Chiverton
One thing I only just figured out: if you are using the umountcifs script linked above, you also need to set the network as a system setting, otherwise it's pulled down when you exit KDE/Gnome and still leaves the umount hanging during shutdown/reboot. I made sure network-manager-gnome was

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-02-03 Thread Tom Chiverton
One thing I only just figured out: if you are using the umountcifs script linked above, you also need to set the network as a system setting, otherwise it's pulled down when you exit KDE/Gnome and still leaves the umount hanging during shutdown/reboot. I made sure network-manager-gnome was

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread flaccid
@wolfi...@gmail.com I agree of course. You just described the Ubuntu project! The thing is people solve Launchpad Ubuntu bugs all the time. The problem is the managers of the distro. The other problem is how hard it is to get a fix committed. This is not the only example of where I have done

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread bobp
I also did the right thing and reported this bug in one of the reports that was marked as a duplicate. Yes it is frustrating to see bugs take so long to get fixed, and ultimately lack of a positive result teaches users to give up bothering to file bug reports. That's not a good thing, as it

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread flaccid
@bopb I'm not sure that your closing point has much relevence to completing this bug. It merely suggests you accept the mediocrity of the situation. Of course the situation could be much worse than this, thats just stating the obvious. This does not mean its acceptable. Oh and there are many

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread Ramon Rocha
Until this is fixed, what can we as a user community do to help mitigate the annoyances caused by this bug? Would it be sufficient to describe the issue and various workarounds in the relevant places in the community documentation? Maybe here... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread Scott Severance
@complainers: Complaining about Ubuntu's bug-fixing process won't get this bug fixed any quicker. It just fills people's inboxes with useless drivel. Let's keep the discussion on-topic, shall we? -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread flaccid
Let the inboxes be filled until it is committed! -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is subscribed to samba in ubuntu. --

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread flaccid
@wolfi...@gmail.com I agree of course. You just described the Ubuntu project! The thing is people solve Launchpad Ubuntu bugs all the time. The problem is the managers of the distro. The other problem is how hard it is to get a fix committed. This is not the only example of where I have done

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread bobp
I also did the right thing and reported this bug in one of the reports that was marked as a duplicate. Yes it is frustrating to see bugs take so long to get fixed, and ultimately lack of a positive result teaches users to give up bothering to file bug reports. That's not a good thing, as it

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread flaccid
@bopb I'm not sure that your closing point has much relevence to completing this bug. It merely suggests you accept the mediocrity of the situation. Of course the situation could be much worse than this, thats just stating the obvious. This does not mean its acceptable. Oh and there are many

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread Ramon Rocha
Until this is fixed, what can we as a user community do to help mitigate the annoyances caused by this bug? Would it be sufficient to describe the issue and various workarounds in the relevant places in the community documentation? Maybe here... https://help.ubuntu.com/community/Fstab

Re: [Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread Scott Severance
@complainers: Complaining about Ubuntu's bug-fixing process won't get this bug fixed any quicker. It just fills people's inboxes with useless drivel. Let's keep the discussion on-topic, shall we? -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-30 Thread flaccid
Let the inboxes be filled until it is committed! -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-29 Thread PascalCavy
And what if Networkmanager be protected from beeing killed in sendsig and network beeing brought down at end of shutdown ? -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-29 Thread wolfi...@gmail.com
Ok that's it; I'm done with this. Just a waste of time.. All talk 'n no action. I'll just use one of the suggested fixes. If that doesn't work I'll have a big sticky note saying Remember to unmount your Samba shares!. The problem is known; Several solutions are known; but just keep dragging

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-29 Thread PascalCavy
And what if Networkmanager be protected from beeing killed in sendsig and network beeing brought down at end of shutdown ? -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2009-01-29 Thread wolfi...@gmail.com
Ok that's it; I'm done with this. Just a waste of time.. All talk 'n no action. I'll just use one of the suggested fixes. If that doesn't work I'll have a big sticky note saying Remember to unmount your Samba shares!. The problem is known; Several solutions are known; but just keep dragging

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-12-10 Thread James
So I've read through this entire thread and seen a lot of solutions. I have a fully updated intrepid and this line appears at shutdown (take out the splash line in your kernel command in grub to see it) : CIFS VFS: No response for .. basically the same as the original report. CIFS VFS:

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-12-10 Thread James
So I've read through this entire thread and seen a lot of solutions. I have a fully updated intrepid and this line appears at shutdown (take out the splash line in your kernel command in grub to see it) : CIFS VFS: No response for .. basically the same as the original report. CIFS VFS:

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-29 Thread flaccid
Ubuntu - too many indians, no chiefs. Oh there are chiefs but they must be too busy smoking crack. -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which is

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-29 Thread Max-Ulrich Farber
I can't understand that the importance of this bug is still set to low in samba after such a long time! -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-29 Thread flaccid
Ubuntu - too many indians, no chiefs. Oh there are chiefs but they must be too busy smoking crack. -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-23 Thread Owen PG
I just think it's a laugh, a linux distribution that can't cope with either NFS or CIFS mounts. See below for details: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/213444 Yes and I need to mount a resource both by NFS and CIFS . . . It can't all be blamed on bug 1 - MS don't

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-23 Thread Owen PG
I just think it's a laugh, a linux distribution that can't cope with either NFS or CIFS mounts. See below for details: https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/nfs-utils/+bug/213444 Yes and I need to mount a resource both by NFS and CIFS . . . It can't all be blamed on bug 1 - MS don't

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-17 Thread Max-Ulrich Farber
I am sorry. I never wanted to speak for others. It is my opinion, but it would be better if I had said nothing at all. considering scripts existed already and were simply executed at the wrong stage of the shutdown sequence Do these scripts really fix the problem? Please read the posting of

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-17 Thread flaccid
@Max-Ulrich Farber What Mathias Gug was suggesting may be a better solution however not the current method that Ubuntu employs in its [shutdown] scripts. Considering how hard it is to get the other fixes committed as a solution (which do work, I have tested and so have others), I would assume

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-17 Thread Max-Ulrich Farber
I am sorry. I never wanted to speak for others. It is my opinion, but it would be better if I had said nothing at all. considering scripts existed already and were simply executed at the wrong stage of the shutdown sequence Do these scripts really fix the problem? Please read the posting of

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-17 Thread flaccid
@Max-Ulrich Farber What Mathias Gug was suggesting may be a better solution however not the current method that Ubuntu employs in its [shutdown] scripts. Considering how hard it is to get the other fixes committed as a solution (which do work, I have tested and so have others), I would assume

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-16 Thread Max-Ulrich Farber
I am afraid the problem is that in this case nobody really feels responsible. Is it a problem of the shutdown sequence (Ubuntu problem), of the cifs Kernel module (Linux general) or a Samba bug? Who has got to fix it? As long as nobody feels responsible there is not much hope indeed. --

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-16 Thread flaccid
@Max-Ulrich Farber I disagree and I don't think you can speak for others like that. Considering the Linux kernel and Samba itself are shared between hundreds of Linux distributions and that Samba is basically the same (in this context) on other operating systems such as FreeBSD etc., it is clear

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-16 Thread Max-Ulrich Farber
I am afraid the problem is that in this case nobody really feels responsible. Is it a problem of the shutdown sequence (Ubuntu problem), of the cifs Kernel module (Linux general) or a Samba bug? Who has got to fix it? As long as nobody feels responsible there is not much hope indeed. --

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-16 Thread flaccid
@Max-Ulrich Farber I disagree and I don't think you can speak for others like that. Considering the Linux kernel and Samba itself are shared between hundreds of Linux distributions and that Samba is basically the same (in this context) on other operating systems such as FreeBSD etc., it is clear

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-15 Thread meestermole
Why isn't this fixed after so long? The big thing keeping me from switching to Linux full time is that i run into these type of bugs, and no sooner do i get them fixed and feel like i've made progress that ANOTHER bug shows up. The more I want to do with my system, the more bugs I need to find

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-15 Thread flaccid
I think the problem lies with the lack of action on behalf of people with power to commit fixes such as Canonical sponsors. I gave up on Ubuntu's management a long time ago. Where are the chiefs? -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-15 Thread meestermole
Why isn't this fixed after so long? The big thing keeping me from switching to Linux full time is that i run into these type of bugs, and no sooner do i get them fixed and feel like i've made progress that ANOTHER bug shows up. The more I want to do with my system, the more bugs I need to find

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-15 Thread flaccid
I think the problem lies with the lack of action on behalf of people with power to commit fixes such as Canonical sponsors. I gave up on Ubuntu's management a long time ago. Where are the chiefs? -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-12 Thread Max-Ulrich Farber
@ luchio We are already waiting for years, and nothing did really happen. It is a shame. Even if it is far from being a perfect solution, it is better to propose a workaround like the script of Scott Severance than to do just nothing. -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-12 Thread Max-Ulrich Farber
@ luchio We are already waiting for years, and nothing did really happen. It is a shame. Even if it is far from being a perfect solution, it is better to propose a workaround like the script of Scott Severance than to do just nothing. -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-10 Thread luchio
@Mathias Gug So, what do you suggest should happen now? Submit a bug report to samba and wait for them? -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Server Team, which

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-10 Thread luchio
@Mathias Gug So, what do you suggest should happen now? Submit a bug report to samba and wait for them? -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In case anyone cares, my initial testing using this method has been very successful so far, both shutdown/restart and suspend/resume are working as I expect. Would be possible to have Canonical officially embrace and include this script in the Ubuntu base packaging and close out this issue once

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-06 Thread Mathias Gug
The issue discussed here boils down to the fact that network interfaces can be brought down *before* network filesystems are unmounted thus leading to a long timeout. One option proposed was to move the umountnfs script earlier in the shutdown sequence. Doing leads to the possibility that running

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-06 Thread [EMAIL PROTECTED]
In case anyone cares, my initial testing using this method has been very successful so far, both shutdown/restart and suspend/resume are working as I expect. Would be possible to have Canonical officially embrace and include this script in the Ubuntu base packaging and close out this issue once

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-06 Thread Mathias Gug
The issue discussed here boils down to the fact that network interfaces can be brought down *before* network filesystems are unmounted thus leading to a long timeout. One option proposed was to move the umountnfs script earlier in the shutdown sequence. Doing leads to the possibility that running

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-05 Thread toobuntu
For our network using Ubuntu 8.04, Sander Marechal's umountcifs script works when symlinked as K15umountcifs (i.e. the key is that it is called prior to K16dhcdbd). $ sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/umountcifs /etc/rc0.d/K15umountcifs $ sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/umountcifs /etc/rc6.d/K15umountcifs --

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-05 Thread toobuntu
For our network using Ubuntu 8.04, Sander Marechal's umountcifs script works when symlinked as K15umountcifs (i.e. the key is that it is called prior to K16dhcdbd). $ sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/umountcifs /etc/rc0.d/K15umountcifs $ sudo ln -s /etc/init.d/umountcifs /etc/rc6.d/K15umountcifs --

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-04 Thread Tobias Kerzenmacher
** Attachment removed: umountcifs http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19277243/umountcifs ** Attachment removed: umountcifs http://launchpadlibrarian.net/19277241/umountcifs -- CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/211631 You received this

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-03 Thread Tobias Kerzenmacher
The best solution to avoid messing up the unmounting issue for special cases as described by Reinhard Tartler 5 posts ago is to use a special unmounting script for cifs. People who have used the workaround described by luchio have never used such a special case scenario. Therefore it is much

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-03 Thread Tobias Kerzenmacher
The best solution to avoid messing up the unmounting issue for special cases as described by Reinhard Tartler 5 posts ago is to use a special unmounting script for cifs. People who have used the workaround described by luchio have never used such a special case scenario. Therefore it is much

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-03 Thread luchio
The umountcifs script seems to solve the problem here (tested as K12umountcifs). Of course, I had removed the other S14umountnfs.sh I had added manually earlier. It would be cleaner to do the symlinks as ../init.d/umountcifs like other rc0.d scripts, instead of /etc/init.d. Otherwise, it

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-03 Thread Tobias Kerzenmacher
The best solution to avoid messing up the unmounting issue for special cases as described by Reinhard Tartler 5 posts ago is to use a special unmounting script for cifs. People who have used the workaround described by luchio have never used such a special case scenario. Therefore it is much

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-03 Thread Tobias Kerzenmacher
The best solution to avoid messing up the unmounting issue for special cases as described by Reinhard Tartler 5 posts ago is to use a special unmounting script for cifs. People who have used the workaround described by luchio have never used such a special case scenario. Therefore it is much

[Bug 211631] Re: CIFS/SMBFS shares not unmounted before network is shut down

2008-11-03 Thread Tobias Kerzenmacher
The best solution to avoid messing up the unmounting issue for special cases as described by Reinhard Tartler 5 posts ago is to use a special unmounting script for cifs. People who have used the workaround described by luchio have never used such a special case scenario. Therefore it is much

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