Hey guys! Please, ignore my latest messages! After researching a little
bit about this, I realized that by just installing:
macfanctld
and a few more, like:
pommed / gpomme
My Macbook is finally cooler on Ubuntu!
Thanks!
Thiago
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Still a problem on Ubuntu 16.04 on a brand new Macbook Pro 2015.
Under OS X, supercool, under Ubuntu, super hot! Even without running
anything, just boot it, login and wait, it will become hot.
This problem have what, 20 years? For God's sake! Time to fix this once
for all, Ubuntu should keep a
Intrepid Ibex reached end-of-life on 30 April 2010 so I am closing the
report. The bug has been fixed in newer releases of Ubuntu.
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Since early 2008 my MBA21 has had a CPU idle temperature of 62-67 degC,
with any kind of load getting it dangerously hot (80 degC). On a
handful of occasions thermal cut-out (not sure if this is in the CPU
itself or the SMC) has kicked in and halted the CPU. My SMC is at 1.14.
The heat issues are
I have a theory about the cooling part of the heat problem: the SMC
seems to have changed at least twice since 2005 with regard to how fan
control works. The attached script will reveal which version applies to
a certain machine. If there still is a bug, it should be related at
least to machines
@Rydberg: Running the script on my MBP5,1 it says:
Scanning SMC registers...
Mt register found
The machine has a Mt but no Sf register.
It is likely built 2009 or 2010.
The SMC does not have a (known) overheat protection, so the
machine might get really hot under CPU load.
DO NOT rely on the
Thanks Alex for the input! Apparently the theory is incorrect, in as
much as there is still a heat protection function in the newer SMCs. It
would however be great to be able to confirm this on one of the other
machines, and then preferrably by anyone who has reported fans not
moving. Perhaps
I agree 95C seems quite high - i had thought it kicked in earlier than
this (in real world use) before so perhaps it isnt just based on CPU
temp and instead the SMC does some averaging of a number of the
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Repeating your test on my MBA11 yields a threshold of 80 degC (largest
value reading sysfs: 8). The MBA11 belongs to the 2007-2008 range of
computers with both a Mt and Sf register. Significantly different, I
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can anything be done or am I going to have to suffer with OSX?
This bug was fixed since 9.04. Please open a new bug if you still have
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macbook pro 17 works fine with ubuntu karmic.
macbook pro 13 has extreme temperature issues. Can't use it for 10 mins before
it's almost too hot to have on my lap.
Installed powernowd and no fix...
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FYI: I added a sensor-meaning mapping to the 5,2 ubuntu Karmic page. My
confidence in it's accuracy is low. Comment is being added to this bug
to aid future searchers.
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I am running the same MacBook but with Karmic Koala (Kernel 2.6.31-X) And
all runs fine, only have the problem with Batery Live, Tray installing
collectd-sensors-
lm-sensors
sensors-applet
And then try to see it in the GNOME Panel. (Add the Applet)
209/11/27 netsurfer
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I am closing this bug since the original issue was fixed. If someone
still has heating problems should open a new bug, otherwise it gets
difficult to manage here a different problem (this last one appears to
be workarounded installing powernowd) with the same symptoms.
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Am running Karmic beta now, but Jaunty 64-bit was rock solid on my MBP5,1.
Perhaps its a dodgy graphics card? Nvidia did have some problems with some of
the 8600M GT's in previous MBP models (http://support.apple.com/kb/TS2377)
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No Alex, (a) since I installed powernowd I don't see this problem anymore.
(b) I thought of the machine being hot and the graphics chip being damaged or
so. So I just launched Mac-OS to see if there is something strange. Nothing,
all works fine.
It makes me think it has something
I've experienced sone strange graphics slow-down and freezes on MBP5,1.
After installing powernowd the problem is gone. Does anybody experience
strange graphics/ freezing system?
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Sorry, forgot to mention the system: under Jaunty 64-bit.
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I've see the screen turn black and as the cursor moves, the screen gets
repainted at an offset. Usually doesn't recover and requires a gnome
restart.
2009/10/5 Νίκος Αλεξανδρής nikos.alexand...@uranus.uni-freiburg.de
I've experienced sone strange graphics slow-down and freezes on MBP5,1.
@Jim Rorie: Yep, exactly that is what I see.
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Yeah, my MBP get hot, but I usually manage to set manually my fans when
needed with a script. Btw I never get into a forced standby due to the
temperature. Maybe a firmware problem?
Here is the script:
http://files.getdropbox.com/u/630394/macbookpro51/setfan.sh
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I have been running Karmic (alpha 4, but updated to latest) on my MBP
5,1 without any heat issues, so I can at least un-confirm this problem
for Karmic - I really think it is a knee-jerk reaction to put it in the
release notes - there are many happy users of Karmic on MBP (see the
Apple section of
This bug is back. Just tested Ubuntu 9.10 Alpha 2 64-Bit Live Desktop
on
Just to be sure the module is loaded, can you attach the output of:
$ lsmod | grep applesmc
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This bug is back. Just tested Ubuntu 9.10 Alpha 2 64-Bit Live Desktop on
the above mentioned MacBook Pro rev. 3. After approx. ten minutes the
machine's case's temperature was so high I had to shut down the machine
and let it cool down.
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This is no longer needed on jaunty and nobody appears to care to fix the
8.10 release notes.
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I confirm this problem for a MacBook Pro rev. 3 with Ubuntu 9.04 Alpha
5+ with all of today's updates. Question is whether this is a new bug or
the old one again.
This notebook does have a fan, I don't quite get it why Ubuntu hardly
ever switches it on and prefers to have the notebook burnt down.
Make sure that the applesmc module is loading now by default in Jaunty.
This was part of the problem in Intrepid.
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Oh, sorry... I actually have a MB not a MBP. This is the wrong thread
then right? Although this bug seems to apply to both.
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Scott, what I am experiencing is actually Bug #52852, which was marked
as a duplicate of this one although I believe it is not as 53852 was
reported on a MacBook not a MBP.
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this should apply to all Macs equally.
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poly, have you tried resetting your SMC controller? It sounds more like
a hardware / firmware issue.
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Ricky, have reset my SMC controller several times recently (related to a
Windows VM taking out my video card then rendering my laptop un-
bootable...). This is definitely a firmware issue. The problem first
appeared, as I said, after installing Hardy last year. Applying this
I should probably also add that 65ºC is fairly normal for my CPU; it's
the power supply that burns my legs, frequently reaching temperatures of
over 80ºC. This happens whether I'm on batteries or AC.
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Sorry that my suggestion was no help. The reason I did so was that there
are several paramters that can be set on a Mac and will survive a reboot
and even between OS X and Ubuntu (the iSight firmware loading is one). I
think that maybe Ubuntu is setting something incorrectly, and then it
survives
Good news. I'm in OS X now after just having done this
http://www.apple.com/downloads/macosx/apple/firmware_hardware/batteryupdate14.html
As well as the power supply getting extremely hot, and short battery life, I
was suffering from my batteries not holding their charge properly. I always
keep
poly, I just went to the link you posted for the Apple battery update
1.4. It says it only works for Macbooks (not Macbook Pros). I just
wanted to double check, did you install this on a Macbook Pro?
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Hi all,
I have suffered from this since Hardy. Something I haven't seen anyone else
mention yet it this:
My MB runs way hotter in Leopard than in Ubuntu. Battery life in either OS
dropped from 5 hours to 2 after installing Ubuntu. There was an Apple battery
firmware update released which fixes
Ricky, thanks for the info. I understand what you mean, but this is very
demanding for the average user. To be precise, this is the first time I
ever heard that after a scheduled update you would have to know of and
to take additional steps to prevent the update from burning down your
computer. I
This is very common if you compile anything against the kernel yourself.
The updated AppleSMC package in the mactel-support repo is provided so
that you have a fixed before it may be available in the standard Ubuntu
repos. The changes made were submitted upstream and then included in the
Linux
Things were about o.k. (not perfect, since the computer still worked at
higher temperature than it did with MacOSX) until today's update to
2.6.27-11-generic. Starting the computer with the loading cable
attached, within estimated 30 minutes temperature got so high I had to
shut down.
Started it
PS CPU is switched on Powersave.
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As stated above, this is fixed in 2.6.28...
since you updated kernels, you may need to reinstall the applesmc module
as you did before and make sure that it is loading again.
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This was committed to kernel 2.6.28:
http://git.kernel.org/?p=linux/kernel/git/torvalds/linux-2.6.git;a=commitdiff;h=dc924efb52ba9e4dffec5b15ae2242b894198139
and therefore is fixed in jaunty.
Could someone backport this patch to intrepid kernel?
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and as a follow up on the request for a GUI application to control fans, things
are developing here:
http://ubuntuforums.org/showpost.php?p=6490386postcount=86
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I confirm that under MBP5,1 the cooling systems works. Still the machine
feels hotter than when running OSX.
Regards, Nikos
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Just an additional note: the machine is hot on the left side (close to
the ports: power, ethernet, usb).
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With applesmc my mbp5.1 is stable but stil a lot hotter than in OSX. I
am not sure if this needs a new bugreport...
By the way cpufreq-info shows this:
cpufreq-info
cpufrequtils 002: cpufreq-info (C) Dominik Brodowski 2004-2006
Report errors and bugs to [EMAIL PROTECTED], please.
analyzing CPU
Reopening for Ubuntu release notes. They should mention to add the
applesmc module to /etc/modules .
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A patch has been sent upstream that will make auto-loading work in
Jaunty (2.6.28).
http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/11/20/365
Nice. Will it be possible to do the same also with the coretemp module?
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I would not say that this is fixed, if it still needs to manually add
the applesmc module to /etc/modules (but maybe this is related to bug
#128787).
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A patch has been sent upstream that will make auto-loading work in
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http://lkml.org/lkml/2008/11/20/365
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oss_test_launchpad, please cut the rants and the bitchiness - it's just
adding noise to the bug, which means it's even *less* likely to be
listened to.
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Marking ubuntu-release-notes as 'wontfix', as it appears that only one
person is still hitting this, and it seems to have been fixed for
everyone else.
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Okay, just typed in dmesg. The part relating to applesmc (what's that
anyway?) is:
[ 16.203901] applesmc: Apple MacBook Pro 3 detected:
[ 16.203904] applesmc: - Model with accelerometer
[ 16.203905] applesmc: - Model with light sensors and backlight
[ 16.203907] applesmc: - Model
The rant aside, what is the current problem with temperature on your
MBP3? Did you read the linked thread? It seems to me most people do not
have this problem anymore,
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Problem is as it was when reporting this.
How do you know whether most people do not have this problem anymore?
Maybe people just turned back to OSX.
I would expect a fix that comes with an update, not some by-hand
operation which might work for some only and which does not help people
who
For dealing with free open source, provided by volunteers, you expect a
lot.
This thread is very long, and some reports speak of improvements, some
not. Perhaps a re-statement of the problem would be a good thing.
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Point is that a lot of people here seem ready to give the information
needed but information transfer to the actual project is low.
And, yes, as long as Ubuntu claims:
Ubuntu 'Just Works'
We've done all the hard work for you. Once Ubuntu is installed, all the basics
are in place so that
You obviously do not understand how this process works. The applesmc in
the Linux kernel module that allows fan-control, and temperature sensors
to work in Intel-based Macs. A few of the comments above are by a user
that is basically maintaining this module right now. That means that if
there is a
It would be great to get input from Ali Sabil on the fan issue and post
#37. Super Jamie, I doubt the scheduler problem is the same bug. The
macbooks-running-hot problem has been around several kernel generations.
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rydberg, thanks for the instruction. It must have taken some time to
write it. Time that might better have been used to work on the problem.
Just a thought.
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Check dmesg, you may be having the same 100%-cpu-usage bug as here:
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If the machine gets hot but the fan stays at minimum, one possible cause
is that the SMC has been switched to manual. If this was not done by
hand, it could have to do with switching between OSX and Ubuntu via
reboot. I have put this line in my /etc/rc.local to prevent any such
possibilities:
##
Can anyone confirm that this bug has been fixed for the Macbook Pro v3.1
(Santa Rosa) in the 8.10 final release (i386 and amd64 versions).
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http://ubuntuforums.org/showthread.php?t=969183
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Put 'applesmc' in /etc/modules, no change.
After some kernel updates, it worked ok; after others, it was worse
again. With the most current kernel (2.6.27-7-generic) it is as bad as
it was when this bug was reported.
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I can also confirm this with a Macbook 1st generation.
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Here is the output of sensors, with both applesmc and coretemp loaded,
please note the +127°C, not sure if those are accurate, but my laptop is
burning.
$ sensors
coretemp-isa-
Adapter: ISA adapter
Core 0: +57.0°C (crit = +100.0°C)
coretemp-isa-0001
Adapter: ISA
I think I am experiencing the same issue with a Macbook 1st generation.
There is an overheating problem that either leads to a hardlock (most
cases), or a suspend from which I am unable to resume. having applesmc
loaded doesn't change anything.
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I own a MacBook 3,1 [ Core(TM)2 Duo CPU T7500 @ 2.20GHz]
A fresh installlation of Alpha 6, and a dist-upgrade made yesterday.
After the load of applesmc there are no thermal problems to be reported, it
works very well.
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You should put 'applesmc' in /etc/modules and test again
I already asked that before: What exactly am I supposed to do? Is
modules a file? Am I supposed to open it with an editor and copy this
line into it?
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sudo modprobe applesmc,
dmesg
gives the following output (among others not reffering to applesmc):
[ 379.451963] applesmc: wait status failed: 5 != 0
[ 379.507664] applesmc: wait status failed: 5 != 0
[ 379.545090] applesmc: wait status failed: 5 != 0
[ 379.561116] applesmc: wait status
Yes, /etc/modules is a file. Just put a line with applesmc in it with a text
editor and the module gets loaded when you boot ubuntu.
Why don't you write me an email (see my launchpad profile) so we can discuss
this on IRC etc.
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Why don't you write me an email (see my launchpad profile) so we can
discuss this on IRC etc.
Thanks for this information, but let's keep this here so that more
people profit from your information.
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You should put 'applesmc' in /etc/modules and test again
Done. I will report.
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Is something using a lot of CPU time?
No, in idle state both cores bounce between 5 and 20 %.
run top, and look at the load averages at the top right. (number of
tasks waiting running/waiting to run averaged over the last 5/10/15
minutes).
Gives you something like 0.22, 0.32, 0.32.
Is your
This whole thing seems to have been a problem for quite some time now,
see
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/52852
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/73019.
IMHO there really should be some progress before Ubuntu burns down some
people's computers.
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too. At least as a workaround. Even though the notebook is currently
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Try to load the applesmc module, it should detect the temperature sensors.
Install lm-sensors and see what sensors reports. lm-sensors should also install
the fan-control script.
Do you have cpufrequtils installed?
If this works we should try to fix bug #128787 (applesmc not loaded at startup).
Try to load the applesmc module, it should detect the temperature
sensors.
I tried around quite a bit with lm-sensors and now it works as long as I
have the notebook on AC power BEFORE startup (don't know why). sudo
modprobe applesmc leads to nothing (no comment in the shell).
Try to load the
From kernel source:
/ * drivers/hwmon/applesmc.c - driver for Apple's SMC (accelerometer,
temperature
* sensors, fan control, keyboard backlight control) used in Intel-based Apple
* computers.
*/
You need it to get the temperatures and control the fan.
You should put 'applesmc' in /etc/modules
Try dmesg after sudo modprobe applesmc, it should give you something like this:
[ 27.627646] applesmc: Apple MacBook detected:
[ 27.627652] applesmc: - Model with accelerometer
[ 27.627656] applesmc: - Model without light sensors and backlight
[ 27.627661] applesmc: - Model with 10
Is something using a lot of CPU time? run top, and look at the load
averages at the top right. (number of tasks waiting running/waiting to
run averaged over the last 5/10/15 minutes).
If it's not close to zero, something's keeping your CPU busy.
Is your CPU idling at low speed, like it should
Still no change so far. Once every hour you have to shut down and let it
cool for ten minutes.
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Module Size Used by
ipv6 314312 10
binfmt_misc18700 1
af_packet 29568 4
btusb 21656 2
rfcomm 51104 2
l2cap 33280 9 rfcomm
bluetooth 70692
Sorry I don't have time to work myself into this debug thing right now.
In case that no one else contributes the information needed, please come
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[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ dpkg -l 'linux-*'
Gewünscht=Unbekannt/Installieren/R=Entfernen/P=Vollständig Löschen/Halten
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Halb installiert/Trigger erWartet/Trigger anhängig
|/ Fehler?=(kein)/Halten/R=Neuinst notw/X=beide
What does
lsmod
give you? Perhaps you don't have the right modules loaded, for whatever
reason...
Also, the following command tells us which kernel packages you have
installed.
dpkg -l 'linux-*'
Also try the instructions at https://wiki.ubuntu.com/DebuggingACPI and
see if they are of any help
[EMAIL PROTECTED]:~$ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/temperature
cat: /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/temperature: No such file or directory
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Bugs,
Don't type the $. It just prefixes commands your supposed to enter at
the command line. So please run:
cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/temperature
(Interested in this as I've just ordererd a new MacBook Pro.)
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bash: $: command not found
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For checking the temperature, try
$ cat /proc/acpi/thermal_zone/*/temperature
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