Guillaume: here's a technical argument: Empathy doesn't work.
That's a blocker. As long as the bug is not blocker, the best thing
users can do is complain. Once the bug is marked as blocker, then
there's no point in users complaining since developers are already aware
of the importance of the bug.
> If Ars Technica were to post a scathing article about this bug and
label Ubuntu immature because of it, this bug would be fixed tomorrow.
No it will not, you can try to see subjects which have been used in
article to say what is lacking on linux distributions, the fact that
those issue are point
The whole point of a bug tracker is to discuss TECHNICAL details about
issues. Complaining without providing more useful information is useless
and waste time of developpers. If you want to "vote" for a bug you can
subscribe to it or mark that it affects us. Those are the right way to
do and don't
First of all, GNOME never switched from Pidgin to Empathy because Pidgin
has never been part of GNOME, and has never intended to. It's just a
GTK+ app that has never collaborated with anyone... GNOME,
freedesktop.org, etc. So, before Empathy, GNOME didn't really have an
alternative.
Now, I think d
Couldn't disagree more Guillaume. As so clearly pointed out by Sebastien
Bacher, this bug isn't considered so serious by the powers that be.
While this might not be a "stupid forum" (or any other type of forum for
that matter) it is, as you so eloquently pointed out, a bug tracker (you
know - a pla
Please stop writing useless comments. This is a bug tracker, not a stupid forum.
While the status of this bug is not changed there is no point to post "I'm also
affected" comment, we know that this doesn't work and this is not going to
change magically until developpers implement the missing bits
It’s sad that such a serious bug has been present since Jaunty and
almost nothing has been done to solve it. GNOME already switched from
Pidgin to Empathy for no *really good* reason and Ubuntu simply chose to
follow them blindly.
My company uses the Sametime protocol for IM collaboration and now
Also having this bug. Can't use Empathy now, sticking with Pidgin for the time
being.
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I'm not into release schedule intrincacies, so if you people say that because
the bug is long standing and the chances of it being fixed before release are
slim, it somehow diminishes it's importance, so be it.
BUT, i still think you understimate how amateurish image of Ubuntu this bug
gives eac
This bug is still targeted to the 10.04 release. As such, if someone is
able to produce a fix for it before final freeze on April 15th, the fix
can be included. However, if no one is able to do so, we will ship Lucid
on time as planned. Anyone who has the capability to fix this bug of pay
someone t
Sure... but this is still a major bug ! The decision to replace pidgin
was done a long a go and still we have this major flaw, it afects a big
percentage of people.
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changing the setting doesn't mean the bug is not going to be worked but
let's realistic lucid will be stable next month and this bug is standing
for over a year and will require work over the integration work done by
a distribution
getting every single launchpad bug closed and the software we dist
totally agree with you , why should be the default i guess this is againt
the *it should just work* saying if you know what i mean
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 11:05 PM, jorge wrote:
> Medium? Really? Empathy just doesn't work in a lot of corporate-land and
> schools and universtities... I mean, the
Medium? Really? Empathy just doesn't work in a lot of corporate-land and
schools and universtities... I mean, the default messaging app doesn't
know what a PROXY is? That's absolutelly not serious.
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Confirmed Still not working, have tried to work round the problem using
tsocks but it didn't work.
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I can confirm it on recently installed Karmic.
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Yes I know, the bug in evolution is already filed. I was just wondering
if the two bugs were interrelated as they are both gnome applications. I
think it's strange that two gnome applications stopped using gnome proxy
settings when I upgraded to Karmic...
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people, this is empathy bug report. report a separate bug for evolution
:)
On Thu, Mar 4, 2010 at 2:31 PM, Pēteris Krišjānis
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> Stanislas, apt-key and apt tools doesn't work behind proxy, I can
> confirm that. I haven't tried to run Evolution trough SOCKS proxy
> though.
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Stanislas, apt-key and apt tools doesn't work behind proxy, I can
confirm that. I haven't tried to run Evolution trough SOCKS proxy
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Hi everybody,
I'm also affected by the proxy bug. This never happens on previous
release. But I wonder if the issue is more general. Since Karmic, my
evolution cannot receive mail when I'm under a proxy, apt-key doesn't
work under a proxy too.
Does anyone experience proxy issues with evolution an
Lophie, let them know to use Pidgin, which supports all kind of proxies
you can imagine.
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OMG! this still not fixed! I had a lot of people upgrading to Karmic
instead of Windows and most of them cursed me back for EVEN MSN doesn't
work! I know there are solutions but the DEFAULT IM Application can't
use proxies RIDICULOUS!
Way to go... Lucid is going to inherit this.. :
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** Changed in: telepathy-idle
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I added upstream bugs that seem relevant for Jabber, Yahoo, IRC... but
didn't spot any logged against MSN (butterfly/papyon)
Also would:
https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=602824
be a better Empathy bug to track, as upstream haven't closed it?
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I guess this solves my search ... empathy just does not work ... odd
More and more more things seem to crop up as simply not working
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Ubuntu should really not have shipped empathy by default because of this
bug. proxy support should be a most for any internet aware application.
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Ditto i386, fresh install
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Confirmed, in my Ubuntu 9.10 unr on eeepc and amd64 on Desktop PC -
still not work with proxy.
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apport-collect doesn't work through proxy either...
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Confirmed for Karmic.
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This is very disappointing. I installed the new version of Ubuntu (9.10
amd64) on my new laptop (Dell Studio XPS) today. For an operating system
that has spent time on high profile projects recently like Paper Cuts
etc, to have something so basic fail is unbelievable. How am I meant to
argue with m
Sam: We don't know how access to internet is made in Your office. Maybe
You have some sort of transparent proxy. Mabe configuration is made in
Your browser itself. Or You have WPAD script in Your corporate
environment.
And maybe i have misunderstood You because of my bad english. What have
meant w
I have this problem but I don't have any proxy set in Gnome, it all
happens invisibly somewhere on the corporate LAN. Is this likely to be
the same issue?
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Confirmed on both Karmic installations: Fresh install and upgraded from jaunty.
I totally agree with jcapinc.
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Why would they switch to something like empathy if it has such a huge
bug? Port lockdowns are commonplace in public WiFi installations,
Proxies are the only resort in that instance. It baffles me that this
is this way!
Confirmation of bug. im having it to, there is no visible solution
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This has been marked as "resolved" by upstream and more importantly, the
buck has been passed up to the Mission Control project, run by the free
desktop people...
http://telepathy.freedesktop.org/wiki/Mission%20Control
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Confirmed on both Karmic installations: Fresh install and upgraded from
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Just another confirmation of the most annoying bug in Karmic. That's
really ridiculous, how come the default application does not support
proxy. Devels keep working on improving interface in MUC, support for
adium theming and other less relevant things, while the application is
not usable. Nonsense
Yup, latest updated RC and I can only use Empathy from home. Trying to
use it at work or university through their proxies is a no go.
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Still in RC it's not working.
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Confirmed for Karmic beta 1 and
Empathy 2.28.0.1
Forced to use Pidgin.
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The inability to set proxy for Empathy forces me to use another chat
program (Pidgin).
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Oh, and i think the situation is worse than the new title suggest: not
only it does't use system setting, there's no way to set a proxy in the
app either.
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just a few possibly related bugs:
http://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=17073
(freedesktop bugzilla is the correct place for this kind of bug. If someone
could do a big trawl for related bugs, that would be good, but I've got to
dash.)
https://bugs.maemo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=960
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With version 2.27.92, I still have this problem with msn and jabber.
This a main issue, with using empathy...
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With version 2.27.91.1, ICQ and Yahoo picks up the proxy settings in
Gnome, however MSN and GTalk/Jabber still ignores the proxy settings and
tries to connect direct.
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looks like it, linking the report.
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Same for me on Jaunty as of June 16, 2009.
I think this bug should be considered a show stopper for making Empathy
the default IM client in Karmic.
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