This is still a problem in lucid. Icetea does not work for me. and I
cant install sun java.This needs to be fixed.
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ubuntu-restricted-extras contains restricted in its name. In an ideal
world you wouldn't need this package. The switched dependency is due to
bug #344705. When the IcedTea plugin works like Sun's Java plugin, the
dependencies can be changed back.
BTW, according to popcon [1] 25 % have ubuntu-restr
Vistaus +1
It's completely irresponsible, to put an outdated and insecure JRE in
ubuntu-restricted-extras. Either put a secure version of JRE in u-r-e,
and then keep JRE secure, by providing updates for it. Or don't put it
in u-r-e at all, and preferably not even in the repo's.
Nearly everyone in
So users of the restricted extras have to stick with a not-by-ubuntu
updated Sun Java? Nice idea! Not.
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Vistaus, Sun's Java isn't "preferred" over IcedTea. It's just that
IcedTea might not work for everybody so were including an alternative in
ubuntu-restricted-extras. u-r-e isn't installed by default. Hopefully we
can remove u-r-e at all, when there's an open source alternative for all
the packages
I think it was because of Bug #344705 which was mentioned earlier here.
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Why is Java now again preferred over IcedTea? Java isn't getting updates
from Ubuntu since it is in Multiverse. And IcedTea works like a charm
since 9.10
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Thanks, Benjamin!
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This bug was fixed in the package ubuntu-restricted-extras - 37
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* Prefer sun-java6-plugin over icedtea6-plugin on i386, too (LP: #359934)
[ Benjamin Drung ]
* Bump Standards-Version to 3.8.3
* Add ${mis
I have applied your patch, changed your changelog entry to make your
change clearer (check the changelog for version 35), and fix some
lintian warnings.
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Sarah Hobbs wrote:
> If we have documentation about needing to direct download and double
> click to get software packages which are easily available in the
> standard repositories, this needs to be changed. Please point these
> links out if you have seen them.
The system documentation tells user
If people are downloading debs via direct download, and double clicking,
they're doing it wrong. We deliberately have a very clear add/remove
programs section, which is the simplified version of synaptic, and what
people should be using. It is built for beginners, and is easier to use
than search
Thank you Simon for updating the package.
Re the "recomends" issue, I do not want to start a discussion here,
since the original bug is fixed, but as a last suggestion here:
Please consider that people who want to remove single packages are not
those who actually need this meta-package. They know
Sarah, exactly. That's why I'm proposing to to add sun-java6-plugin as a
recommendation to u-r-e.
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The recommends will not be changed back to depends - this allows people
to remove elements of the restricted extras, without removing the
restricted-extras package itself.
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This change will align the amd64 and i386 package.
Diff:
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The old version (36) didn't recommend sun-java6-plugin on i386 which 37 does.
I don't think that downloading the package and installing it via gdebi is a
common use case.
It is a recommendation because ubuntu-restricted-extras is a meta-package. The
nice thing about recommends is, that you can d
Your package is a s good as the .36, it is pulling all the goodies from
the repositories incl. Sun Java plugin, but only when installed via
synaptic from your PPA as additional software source.
It is, like the "original" metapackage, not doing anything when being
installed via direkt download and
Christian, can you confirm that my package fixes your issue? karmic is
approaching and it would be nice if we could get this in before it's too
late.
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I'm not sure if gdebi installs recommended software. And dpkg doesn't fetch
dependencies at all.
What you need to do is:
Add ppa:simono/ppa in the Ubuntu Software Center (under Software Sources). Now
you can install the package (check if the version is 37~ppa1).
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Simon,
I tried again, still not pulling any of the dependencies it is supposed
to pull. It just quietly installs, and that is it. I tried with Gdebi
and also dpkg -i from the command line. However, I can not rule out that
(my) Karmic Beta installation is broken - yesterday I had problems
fecthing
Christian, I'm not really sure what you mean. When I add the PPA to the
Software sources on the Karmic Beta Live CD and do a sudo aptitude
install ubuntu-restricted-extras it wants to install sun-java6-plugin
along with many other packages.
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Your package looks fine but is not fetching anything here (neither Java
nor anything else, fresh Karmic Beta, all additional updates installed).
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An updated package is now in my testing PPA. Please test it and report if it
fixes this issue.
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Status: New => In Progress
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Unfortunately, the web plugin for OpenJDK is broken in Jaunty and Karmic
(and might stay broken...), see bug #344705:
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/openjdk-6/+bug/344705
For the most users, and all Ubuntu beginners, OpenJDK in this current
state is useless; Java applets only work with
Java is no longer included in the 32 bit version. But the 64 bit version
still installs both the sun as the openjdk java.
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The description needs to be clear that Java is NO LONGER included in
this package because an unrestricted version is available. The
description could suggest a recommended open version, such as
recommending the IcedTea6 plugin (which I presume would have the
appropriate OpenJDK packages as dependen
related bug: Bug #366039
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