[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-05-07 Thread Michał Gołębiowski
@aloisam What one has to do with another? Trash icon doesn't get properly updated and that's why users need umount? That's just ridiculous. Users need Trash icon to properly reflect Trash contents and that's all. Not everyone wants to empty their Trash on disconnecting the drive so Ubuntu cannot

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-05-07 Thread aloisam
Right now, i think "unmount" is the best option, Kamereon has true: >The only way I know to really free this space on an external drive is to use >'unmount'. On 'unmount' Nautilus will ask me if i want to delete the trash. >'safely remove' and 'eject' will not do that. So I think that even the m

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-04-16 Thread Bug Watch Updater
** Changed in: nautilus Status: Unknown => In Progress -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu.

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-04-03 Thread Bart Rose
Should this also be applied to "Volumes" section of the netbook edition? Currently a right click on a removable drive in this section on UNE only gives unmount as an option. -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453

Re: [Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-31 Thread Martin Pitt
Michał Gołębiowski [2010-03-31 16:56 -]: > Who in the world will want to actually "remove" the CD-ROM drive? AFAIK > it would cause the drive to be unusable until a reboot so I cannot think > who would really want anything like that... Well, I do that, but indeed for CD-ROMs you can just yank

Re: [Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-31 Thread ethanay
@ Michal I believe this relates specifically to removable, external USB devices and drives... Ethan 2010/3/31 Michał Gołębiowski : > @Martin Pitt >> It's a difference whether you want to eject the media in a >> drive, or disconnect the drive (for CD-ROMs, card readers, >> cameras, etc.) > > Who

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-31 Thread Michał Gołębiowski
@Martin Pitt > It's a difference whether you want to eject the media in a > drive, or disconnect the drive (for CD-ROMs, card readers, > cameras, etc.) Who in the world will want to actually "remove" the CD-ROM drive? AFAIK it would cause the drive to be unusable until a reboot so I cannot think w

Re: [Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-31 Thread Martin Pitt
For devices which actually have removable media, we still need both, though. It's a difference whether you want to eject the media in a drive, or disconnect the drive (for CD-ROMs, card readers, cameras, etc.) The upstream bug has some detailled information why we can't just use "safe removal" by

Re: [Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-31 Thread David Siegel
I wouldn't worry that you can't technically "Eject" a USB stick. If the user only sees "Eject", will the user think "technically I cannot eject a USB device because the USB port lacks the mechanism to forcefully remove the occupying plug, so I am not sure what to do at this point." Or, will the use

Re: [Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-31 Thread Martin Pitt
David Siegel [2010-03-31 8:42 -]: > In the case of external media, can we just show Eject instead of Eject > and Safely Remove? I don't think users will be confused if they Eject > their USB key and the port doesn't spit the key out :) We should just show "Safely Remove", since technically yo

Re: [Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-31 Thread David Siegel
In the case of external media, can we just show Eject instead of Eject and Safely Remove? I don't think users will be confused if they Eject their USB key and the port doesn't spit the key out :) -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-30 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:ubuntu/nautilus -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing l

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-30 Thread PatrickSCarrroll
Why not add an "Advanced" menu that has sub-items to do the other two options? Some of us might want to unmount, but DON'T want to have to goto the command-line every time. -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-30 Thread Martin Pitt
** Project changed: gvfs => nautilus ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: Triaged => Fix Released -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072 You received this bug notification because you are a member o

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-30 Thread Martin Pitt
nautilus (1:2.30.0-0ubuntu3) lucid; urgency=low * Add 16_hide_unmount.patch: Do not show Unmount when showing Eject/Safe removal. Having three menu entries (unmount/eject/safe removal) in a volume/drive menu entry is too confusing. Unmount only really makes sense for internal drives,

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-30 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
** Branch linked: lp:~ubuntu-desktop/nautilus/ubuntu -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubunt

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-30 Thread Martin Pitt
Patch sent to upstream bug. ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu Lucid) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072 You received this bug notification because you are a member of

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-29 Thread phede92
Sorry, but this bug is why background? While people are convolte forty- four Archive manager only four! -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubu

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-29 Thread phede92
In my opinion, must be removed in the case of CD / DVD and USB stick button "Unmount" because there is no need for external disks sorry but you do not install gparted from? -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/4530

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-24 Thread Martin Pitt
** Also affects: gvfs (Ubuntu Lucid) Importance: Low Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) Status: Triaged ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu Lucid) Assignee: Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) => Martin Pitt (pitti) ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu Lucid) Importance: Low => Med

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-12 Thread Damian Yerrick
> CD/DVD drives should have "Eject", and anything else should have "Safely Remove" Then what should a CF/SD reader have? I'm guessing "eject" because the media can be removed from the drive. Currently in 9.10, when I "unmount" a CF or SD card in my SanDisk multiformat reader, the LED next to the

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-04 Thread kamereon
This isn't as off-topic as it sounds: How do I delete files off an external drive? Let's say the drive is full. So I delete some files to make room. these files disappear in Nautilus, but are not really gone, because I do not get any more free space on that drive. If I use 'safely remove' or 'ejec

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-04 Thread ethanay
i cleaned up my comment a little here: https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598690#c18 -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, w

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-04 Thread ethanay
I understand the difference between all the options, and use all of them. I am still confused by the GUI. I think much of this is solvable with pop-up dialogs. See examples: USB flash (thumb) drive: 1. Insert/connect drive. 2. [automount] 3. Press eject 4. Drive unmounts and dialog box appears:

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-02 Thread marco.pallotta
I agree with those that think GUI should be minimal (so there are less technical variable to manage) and should only offer options for typical users. An advanced user can use the cli for certain operations. So, in the specific, I think that, as Kazade sayd, it should be only shown "eject" for cd/dv

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-03-02 Thread Kazade
I wonder if "Unmount" could be shown only if you hold SHIFT when right clicking or can be enabled with a gconf key or something? I've been using Ubuntu for some time (since 2005) and it's only while reading this bug report (and the one upstream) that I understand why there are 3 options there, I s

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-02-23 Thread Dario Bertini
I disagree with Michał Gołębiowski... i know the way around with the terminal, but to say that the terminal is more convenient "a priori" is simply wrong: if we already have a place to manage the eject/umount of the devices, with the users (all users, even advanced ones) accustomated to reach ther

Re: [Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-02-23 Thread David Siegel
That's not what I said. Users are of course free to use the terminal if they wish, I don't mean to prevent them from doing that; and as far as options are concerned, moderation is always better than starvation. I just think that applying the pattern of designing one interface for "normal users" and

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-02-23 Thread Michał Gołębiowski
@David Siegel I strongly disagree. First of all, advanced users appreciate terminal because it's for them (e.g. for me) faster and more convenient. On the other hand, non-technical users shouldn't touch the terminal. This itself contradicts Your claim. Besides, I find it the best solution to pro

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-02-23 Thread David Siegel
I don't think we should pursue a solution that has "normal users" doing one thing and "advanced users" stuck with a terminal. There must be a solution that "normal users" find easy to use and "advanced users" appreciate. -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Rem

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-02-22 Thread Eduard Grebe
Luke makes a good point. I would go even further and suggest that "unmount" should not be available anywhere in Nautilus, but that advanced users should go to Palimpsest or the terminal to unmount. -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bug

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-02-19 Thread Luke Symes
How about special casing the Desktop context menu: "Eject" for Optical Drives and "Safely Remove" for anything else. Advanced users can still "Unmount" in the Places sidebar context menu, while average users will (hopefully) see the eject button and not need to worry about what Unmount means. --

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-02-17 Thread David Siegel
Although upstream offers use cases, no matter how esoteric, for each of these three apparently similar menu items, I guarantee that tooltips are not the solution here :) -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-02-17 Thread Martin Olesen
After reading in Gnome-bugs I understand that the three options makes sense, but nevertheless they confused me at first (and I take for granted that every beginner would feel the same). Is it possible to add some explanation, for example a 'yellow label' showing up, when the mouse hovers over each

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2010-01-09 Thread David Siegel
** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Milestone: None => lucid-round-10 -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to U

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2009-11-25 Thread mac_v
Adding papercut task from dup. ** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Status: New => Triaged ** Changed in: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided => Low -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2009-10-28 Thread Sebastien Bacher
you can read comments on the upstream bug which explain why those 3 options are required -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2009-10-28 Thread Michał Gołębiowski
Any progress on that one? -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2009-10-18 Thread Michał Gołębiowski
I don't think it's about any hidden partition. My pendrive doesn't have any and I still see 3 options. Let me write what I've written in my dup: I think only the "Safely remove..." option should be left. It's the way it's done in MS Windows XP (Vista/Seven behaves worse) and I think it's a proper

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2009-10-17 Thread Sebastien Bacher
** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Status: New => Triaged ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Ubuntu Desktop Bugs (desktop-bugs) -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive" https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/453072 You received th

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2009-10-16 Thread Alexander Gitter
** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #598690 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598690 ** Also affects: gvfs via https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=598690 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2009-10-16 Thread Sebastien Bacher
Thank you for your bug report. The issue is an upstream one and it would be nice if somebody having it could send the bug the to the people writting the software (https://wiki.ubuntu.com/Bugs/Upstream/GNOME) ** Package changed: nautilus (Ubuntu) => gvfs (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: gvfs (Ubuntu) Im

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2009-10-16 Thread Alexander Gitter
The particular flash drive I'm using is a Sandisk Cruzer Micro with "U3 Smart Technology". >From what I've gathered these drives contain a small partition where the U3 >installer is located. Now jaunty doesn't mount that partition, but Karmic >does. It shows up as a mounted CD-Rom, seperate from

[Bug 453072] Re: Context menu for an USB pendrive shows "Unmount", "Eject" and "Safely Remove Drive"

2009-10-16 Thread Alexander Gitter
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