[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2020-05-04 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
[Expired for ubiquity (Ubuntu) because there has been no activity for 60 days.] ** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu) Status: Incomplete => Expired -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/5741

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2020-03-05 Thread Marcus Tomlinson
This release of Ubuntu is no longer receiving maintenance updates. If this is still an issue on a maintained version of Ubuntu please let us know. ** Changed in: ubiquity (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => Incomplete -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2010-12-08 Thread era
Mikko Rantalainen: I think overriding "en" as you suggest is going to come as a surprise to people who already have a well-established expectation for legacy behavior. Certainly Ubuntu should not make such a change unilaterally. If it wasn't for the legacy burden, I'd support this suggestion -- i

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2010-12-08 Thread era
BTW the language issue is a red herring -- US citizens who want Spanish language should obviously have a es_US locale to choose from. But aside from that, again, I don't think you can break with the US legacy without anchoring the decision in pertinent standardization bodies, outside of Ubuntu. -

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2010-12-03 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
> For many languages, the expectation is that LL should simply be equivalent > to LL_TT where LL is the language code and TT is the only territory code > where the language has a significant user population. So, do you think that "en" should be equal to "en_UK" instead of "en_US" (USA has a signi

Re: [Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2009-07-02 Thread Martin Albisetti
On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 7:43 PM, era wrote: > Are you saying that major usability issues with (potentially) a quick > and easy fix are out of scope?  Or that the proposed fix is too complex? > Or that not many users will encounter this problem? In this case, that not many users are affected by this

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2009-07-02 Thread era
> It just occurred me that en_ZZ.UTF-8 should probably be just en.UTF-8. > That is, text in English, without any country specific exceptions. > Sounds like ISO compatible feature to me. Apply the same logic for other > languages. For many languages, the expectation is that LL should simply be equ

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2009-07-02 Thread era
Are you saying that major usability issues with (potentially) a quick and easy fix are out of scope? Or that the proposed fix is too complex? Or that not many users will encounter this problem? For the population who needs to support multiple users with different languages on their system (think

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2009-06-30 Thread Martin Albisetti
Thank you for bringing this bug to our attention. Unfortunately a paper cut should be a small usability issue that affects many people and is quick and easy to fix. I'm afraid this bug can't be addressed as part of this project. A paper cut is a minor usability annoyance that an average user woul

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2009-06-30 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
Close to bug 40107 (I don't think this is a duplicate, rather one is depending on another) -- Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/57411 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2009-06-30 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
It just occurred me that en_ZZ.UTF-8 should probably be just en.UTF-8. That is, text in English, without any country specific exceptions. Sounds like ISO compatible feature to me. Apply the same logic for other languages. -- Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. Europea

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2009-06-30 Thread Mikko Rantalainen
How about expanding the current locale system to include special country code ZZ for every language? Such locale should be defined to always default to ISO compatible values: SI system (metric measurements), A4 paper, ISO 8601 date format and week numbers etc. The implementation of en_ZZ.UTF-8 coul

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2009-06-29 Thread era
An even simpler and more general workaround would be to allow advanced users to specify a system locale in the installer, perhaps in the "Advanced ..." dialog at the very end (although at the moment, that one contains completely unrelated options, pertaining to boot loader device etc) -- Installe

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2009-06-29 Thread era
** Also affects: hundredpapercuts Importance: Undecided Status: New -- Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/57411 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is su

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2009-06-29 Thread era
In nominating this as a paper cut, I would like to reiterate my idea to fall back to en_DK if the installer language is English and the location does not have a valid en_XX locale defined for it. It's obviously tricky to solve the more general case of any-to-any but I would expect English-to-any t

[Bug 57411] Re: Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults

2009-06-29 Thread era
** Summary changed: - Installer should be more clever with non-existant locations + Installer should have option to install English system with e.g. European locale defaults ** Description changed: - I get en_AU as language which might be part of the problem. Personally - I'd prefer en_DK with