Re: [Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

On Mon, 2010-07-19 at 17:04 +, Jerone Young wrote: > Thinking about his more after Martin's comment on rhythmbox. I think > another level of idleness has to be created ? > > If you have something downloading in Chromium or Firefox .. you do want > the screen lock or screen blank to happen. But

Re: [Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

Hi, I do recall from my dark murky past with Windows, that there is an energy-star system for monitoring data http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=power_mgt.pr_power_mgt_wol I'm not sure if it is of any help, but provide it for yo

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

Thinking about his more after Martin's comment on rhythmbox. I think another level of idleness has to be created ? If you have something downloading in Chromium or Firefox .. you do want the screen lock or screen blank to happen. But what you do not want is for the machine to go to sleep or hibern

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

Most movies in browsers is via Flash, which browsers don't get a lot of insight into. I think we can tell that Flash is iterating its main loop but not whether it's painting or just running a timer; full-screened Flash creates its own window out of our control. I think this means we can't control

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

This bug was fixed in the package rhythmbox - 0.13.0git20100715-0ubuntu3 --- rhythmbox (0.13.0git20100715-0ubuntu3) maverick; urgency=low * debian/rhythmbox.gconf-defaults: Enable power-manager plugin by default. Drop the power-manager/hidden override, since it's the upstream de

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

I tested this on current lucid with totem and Rhythmbox. It works as it should with totem, i. e. when playing a movie, the idle and suspend timeouts are inhibited, but closing the lid always works. The Rhythmbox plugin works fine as well. One potentially debatable issue is that inhibits the idle

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

I can look into enabling Ryhthmbox's power management plugin by default and test it. ** Also affects: rhythmbox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Changed in: rhythmbox (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low ** Changed in: rhythmbox (Ubuntu) Status: New => In Progre

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

Chris, with our recent move to almost-pure-upstream builds I figure adding a screensaver/session inhibitor is something that we should get upstream to do. Can you please forward those two (firefox/chromium) to upstream bugs and discuss it there? I guess it's just adding a D-Bus call on starting the

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

@Martin I would like to mark the gnome-power-management task in progress for the 30 min suspend. Along with this would be to open bugs or tasks on this bug for projects that would get effected by this (as Mario suggests in comment #11). This may not be something for 10.10 .. but 11

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

Chris: Would it be worthwhile then maybe to set up some tasks for those projects to make sure that inhibitors get setup by default, so as to see this change that was made for gnome-power-manager doesn't cause a negative experience on those applications? -- [Maverick] Have default settings be ene

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

transmission has the option to inhibit suspend when downloading, but i think that preference is off by default. Totem creates an idle inhibitor when watching movies. Rhythmbox can do this too when listening to music, but i think that plugin is disabled by default -- [Maverick] Have default setti

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

To add some more comments. Thinking about the 30 minute suspsend when idle more. Off the top of my head I can think of some use cases that can be impacted by this: * A long download via firefox or chromium * watching a movie or listening to music Though a solution seems to this already exist. I

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

@Martin Pitt Thanks Martin! I would agree. That does lesson the work needed. As I mentioned Activating sleep after 30 minutes is potentially has potential impact on machines that do not suspend well, as well as potential user experience issues. With what Mario men

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

Jerone, that's about as far as we can push it from the distro side. At least the code patch is in, so a possible customization from OEM would merely involve to add one extra line to debian/gconf-defaults on tested hardware. Is that acceptable? ** Changed in: oem-priority Status: Confirmed =

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

This bug was fixed in the package gnome-power-manager - 2.30.1-1ubuntu2 --- gnome-power-manager (2.30.1-1ubuntu2) maverick; urgency=low * Add 00git-port-to-libupower.patch: Port from libdevkit-power to libupower-glib, the former will go away soon. * debian/control.in: Replace

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

I pushed this change to the Ubuntu packaging bzr for now. I proposed it upstream, and will discuss with Richard about possible refinements. ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: In Progress => Fix Committed -- [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant htt

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

** Bug watch added: GNOME Bug Tracker #624330 https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624330 ** Also affects: gnome-power via https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=624330 Importance: Unknown Status: Unknown -- [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

Thanks Mario. Taking this then. ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Importance: Undecided => Low ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Status: New => In Progress ** Changed in: gnome-power-manager (Ubuntu) Assignee: (unassigned) => Martin Pitt (pitti) -- [Maverick]

Re: [Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

Checking that we are a laptop for the suspend after 30 would cover a majority of OEM enabled machines, so I think would definitely be a step in the right direction. For desktops that need the requirement then, it would only be a matter of setting a single gconf key. On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 00:04,

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

As a close approximation of this, could we always have the DPMS mode after 15 minutes (instead of 30), and suspend after 30 only if we are on battery? Or only if we are a laptop, i. e. have a lid? The latter would be closer to your request, but require a small code patch (but that shouldn't stop us

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

The second option is basically adding support for profiles in g-p-m, which I think has already been rejected once before upstream (although I'm not completely certain about this). The first option would be really bad for machines such as my desktop, which are quite happy to suspend - but they alwa

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

So, if I could restate the request a bit: Goal: To have Ubuntu be Energy Star Compliant. Why?: Some customer tenders are beginning to list Energy Star Compliance as a requirement, therefore the OEMs must have an Energy Star compliant OS in order to respond to these tenders. Implementation Optio

[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

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[Bug 604635] Re: [Maverick] Have default settings be energy star 5.0 compliant

** Description changed: Binary package hint: gnome-power-manager Energy star is a standard backed by the US government to set standards for energy use of devices. The specification for Operating System settings can be found here: http://www.energystar.gov/index.cfm?c=revisions.computer