Public bug reported: INDEX -- INTRODUCTION -- -- HERE THE BUG FOR WHO DOESN'T WANT TO READ EVERYTHING (PART 1) -- -- SECONDARY BUG -- -- HERE THE BUG FOR WHO DOESN'T WANT TO READ EVERYTHING (PART 2) -- -- RAW GUESSING -- -- STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS (even more personal) --
If you only want to know the bug problem, just read PART1 and PART2. As you can see this is not a normal bug, I used this space to dump my anger. (it will work when I press the submit button...) I tried to separate my personal feelings from the bug as much as possible. My system is ubuntu 10.04 upgraded from 8.04 LTS and is now up-to-date with synaptics. Good reading! -- INTRODUCTION -- The recent introduction of the "safely remove hardware" for USB sticks / memory cards / cd roms caused me some bad head-scratching. As I can see, you have now 2 choices with "media/removable devices": "safely remove" or "eject". That is IMHO nonsense: eject "usb pen drive"?? safely remove "cd rom"?? or "cd hard drive"?? BEFORE there was umount (right click). Or you could click the eject icon in nautilus: it still was the SAME **** command: umount. NOW right click on media (nautilus) tell you so **** many options. And there is still the "eject icon" that you don't know how does actually behave since there are 2 "textual" commands now. They introduced a "feature" that they knew didn't work and confuse you. Why the heck? -- HERE THE BUG FOR WHO DOESN'T WANT TO READ EVERYTHING (PART 1) -- There is one good thing: "safely remove hardware" shuts down my usb drive led. So i guess it's power-management with aggressive power saving settings. DOWNSIDE: it doesn't know *HOW TO POWER IT UP AGAIN*. That's crazy! Totally nonsense: what feature is this? it's a bad bug! (IMHO) The real problem comes when I use my internal USB CARD READER. I insert a COMPACT FLASH card. Ok works, well. A yellow led is lit. Now I want to remove the COMPACT FLASH card. * If i do so it cant be mounted anymore. * -- SECONDARY BUG -- AND the device DISAPPEARS from /dev listing!!! You tell me: why do you care? keep on readin'. I use to umount from desktop my devices, so to mount them again from console. NOW I CAN'T. Because if i INSERT the device, DBUS auto mount it. If i umount it DISAPPEAR from dev listing. * Why make life so hard? It used to be easy. * I have to shut down X system+dbus now so that when I insert the device nothing tampers with udev. I can now call fdisk or mkfs or mount! (FINALLY) That's the ONLY way i have to mount a dev from terminal, a task that i need quite often. -- HERE THE BUG FOR WHO DOESN'T WANT TO READ EVERYTHING (PART 2) -- Anyways there's a problem. with my COMPACT flash. If I eject it then the flash HARDWARE DEVICE is shut down, powered down and doesn't work anymore. If i reboot, STILL DOESNT WORK. (eject, remove COMPAT FLASH card, shut down, power up, insert COMPACT FLASH card. NO WORK!!) It only works if I power down the PSU ~10 seconds. * Ubuntu eject / power save mode is so powerful that my hardware card reader can't wakeup even after reboot!! * The old ubuntu 8.04 LTS always worked. Update from base 10.4 to latest-10.4.1.whatever doesn't help. -- RAW GUESSING -- ACPI *MIGHT* be implemented wrong (i have latest bios), but we've always had to handle buggy hardware implementations in x86. It should be gnome devs / ubuntu DEVS problems ANYWAYS, since I dont have rare hardware. More guessings: gnome-2.30? udev? dbus? hald? devicekit-disks? udisks? -- STREAM OF CONSCIOUSNESS (even more personal) -- Damn "safely remove hardware"!! I'm angry because google "gnome 2.30 safely remove hardware safely" heck shows changelogs but NOT 1 WORD OF THIS HUGE CHANGE that made me so angry. So anger increases. Not even forums talking of this pops up in the search engine. Why?! This is a huge problem I cant be the only one to have it! -- "safely remove hardware" I hate this! looks like windows XP We've never needed it, why did they add in gnome 2.30?! -- ... I really feel bad for those regressions that always occour ... -- What gnome module did all this mess so that i can put the blame on them ... ** Affects: ubuntu Importance: Undecided Status: New ** Tags: 2.30 drive eject gnome pen remove udisks usb -- "safely remove hardware" totally screws up my hardware card reader https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/625380 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com https://lists.ubuntu.com/mailman/listinfo/ubuntu-bugs