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pm-utils Conflicts with laptop-mode-tools, so installing
I suspect this is broken again on a Toshiba R705 BIOS v. 2.10.
Installing laptop-mode-tools in Natty 11.04 breaks eth0 (permanently)
and brightness control after resume. 2.6.38-8-generic-pae
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pm-utils Conflicts with laptop-mode-tools, so installing laptop-mode-
tools breaks
Wes, The fix has been released for Natty. If you're running Maverick or earlier
you can try installing the Natty packages manually:
http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/all/pm-utils/download
http://packages.ubuntu.com/natty/all/laptop-mode-tools/download
I was able to install them on my
If the pm-utils conflict is fixed, why can I not install one without
uninstalling the other? I updated l-m-t to the new version and it still
tries to unistall l-m-t when I try to install pm-utils and vice-versa.
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There is http://bugs.debian.org/614861 as well.
Laptop-mode-tools provides a very well maintained, configurable and
supported solution for the laptop_mode. It also provides valuable
diagnostic tools to identify the origins of disk activity.
How could a real integration of the system and desktop
On 03/18/2011 07:10 PM, ceg wrote:
There is http://bugs.debian.org/614861 as well.
Thanks ceg. I didn't know of this bug report. :-)
I'm glad lmt users are asking for this conflict to be removed.
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With 1.57, I've already dropped that reliance on pm-utils ... depending on
what
infrastructure is available (pm-utils/acpid/kernel events), we trigger
lmt (with proper locking and not triggering the same again).
Then what is the conflict here?
Pm-utils ships a suspend infrastructure and
Then what is the conflict here?
First the functional one (both pm-utils and l-m-t configure power saving
stuff, and some of this overlaps. However, I can drop the conflicts for
this part.
More importantly there's the file conflict on /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d
/laptop-mode which is still an
So for natty we should merge l-m-t.
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pm-utils Conflicts with laptop-mode-tools, so installing laptop-mode-
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This bug was fixed in the package pm-utils - 1.4.1-7
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pm-utils (1.4.1-7) unstable; urgency=low
* debian/control: Version the laptop-mode-tools conflicts to 1.55, as
from that version on the /usr/lib/pm-utils/power.d/laptop-mode was
renamed, thus avoiding the file
Then again, maybe the conflict is justified and l-m-t should just
provide a drop in replacement for the /etc/pm/ and /usr/lib/pm hook
directory structure. While pm-utils-core provides suspend functions, and
might even suggest l-m-t for as a functional and configurable
alternative.
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My last comment obviously crossed with yours Martin. I'm sure any
functional conflicts or optimizations (locking) can be sorted out as
well over time.
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This bug was fixed in the package laptop-mode-tools - 1.57-1ubuntu1
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* Merge with Debian unstable. Remaining Ubuntu changes:
- debian/rules: Do not ship acpi/apm scripts (we handle that ourselves)
* Drop previous Ubuntu
can you please reopen the natty task for l-m-t
** Description changed:
+ -for natty we should merge l-m-t, that has renamed its file.
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Binary package hint: laptop-mode-tools
When I try to install laptop-mode-tools on Maverick, I have to remove
pm-utils (which is recommended
wow, fast! thumbs up
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** Changed in: pm-utils (Debian)
Status: Won't Fix = Fix Released
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pm-utils Conflicts with laptop-mode-tools, so installing
Laptop-mode-tools is a well tested, supported and proven package to
configure the system wide power management.
However, instead of using/extending system wide power management
solutions ubuntu lets gnome apps call powermanagent functions directly.
And then they cripple down the system wide power
There is nothing wrong with laptop-mode-tools.
There should be a pm-utils-base package that should be designed to cooperate in
the usual way with other solutions.
And there may be a pm-utils-laptop_mode package that may conflicts with
laptop-mode-tools, but can be seamlessly replaced by the
ceg [2011-03-17 16:01 -]:
I don't know why ubuntu devs do repeatedly try to copy some stuff from
it and implement a session-only, desktop-only replacements.
We didn't. upower is used in all major distros these days, and it
uses pm-utils (which again all major distros use). l-m-t is not a
Closing natty task of pm-utils. The pm-utils side of this is to remove
the Conflicts to l-m-t once l-m-t drops the conflicting power management
hooks. So this is blocked on l-m-t.
** Changed in: pm-utils (Ubuntu Natty)
Status: New = Won't Fix
** Changed in: pm-utils (Ubuntu)
Looking forward, what specific hook are you suggesting l-m-t to drop?
If pm-utils and l-m-t don't overlap, why is the l-m-t package in ubuntu
patched to have incomplete hooks and have so many not-working bugs?
Do the ubuntu tools installed by default do any power management if
nobody is logged
On 03/17/2011 10:14 PM, Martin Pitt wrote:
Closing natty task of pm-utils. The pm-utils side of this is to remove
the Conflicts to l-m-t once l-m-t drops the conflicting power management
hooks. So this is blocked on l-m-t.
There's only one hook that we install in pm-utils. And that was to
I'm not sure what impact pm-utils may have on battery life. I made no
modification of the package besides removing a conflicting script (that
existing in the other package as well).
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This is still broken in 11.04 as of alpha3. My laptop refuses to
suspend with Natty installed because of this.
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I just noticed that the significant higher power consumption only
happens after my computer wakes up from suspend modus. Before going to
Suspend Modus it's only little difference, if there is some.
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dfalk [2011-03-11 16:24 -]:
This is still broken in 11.04 as of alpha3. My laptop refuses to
suspend with Natty installed because of this.
Can you please also report this as a kernel bug? Everything that
pm-utils or lmt can do here is just a workaround..
Thanks,
Martin
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On 12/19/2010 12:00 AM, James wrote:
I re-rolled the pm-utils package to not conflict with laptop-mode tools.
It's just an ugly hack, but it's working on my machine.
** Attachment added: pm-utils_1.4.1-3_all.deb
Re-assigning to Desktop
** Changed in: laptop-mode-tools (Ubuntu Natty)
Assignee: Canonical Foundations Team (canonical-foundations) = Canonical
Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team)
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We don't support laptop-mode-tools. Let's get this handled on the Debian
side.
** Changed in: laptop-mode-tools (Ubuntu Natty)
Assignee: Canonical Desktop Team (canonical-desktop-team) = (unassigned)
** Changed in: laptop-mode-tools (Ubuntu Natty)
Status: Triaged = Won't Fix
** Also
** Changed in: pm-utils (Debian)
Status: Unknown = Won't Fix
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I also think this bug is definitely with pm-utils, if pm-utils is meant
to replace l-m-t. Using 10.04.1 LTS and NOT having l-m-t installed, I
cannot suspend with the lid on AC power. If I install l-m-t and choose
enable acpi-support and configure laptopmodetools.conf to use acpi on ac
and with
This bug is just a reflection of what has also been done in debian. I'd
suggest users to comment there too. Debian bug #612710
By splitting pm-utils we can fix this problem.
I also released 1.56 which now better relies on udev for its invocation.
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On Feb 17, 2011 7:07
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=612710
The correct link
** Bug watch added: Debian Bug tracker #612710
http://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=612710
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** Changed in: laptop-mode-tools (Ubuntu Natty)
Assignee: (unassigned) = Canonical Foundations Team
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Same here. Installing and configuring LMT on my Eee PC 1005HA
significantly improved battery life over the stock pm-utils. I was
actually surprised it wasn't installed by default. Possible solutions:
1) Implement the battery-saving tricks of LMT in pm-utils.
2) Include the pm-utils suspend script
Retitling and unsubscribing ubuntu-archive, since with all due respect
to Bryce the correct course of action is not clear to me yet. There is
clearly a problem, but since some users are still reporting that they
need laptop-mode-tools, I'm uncomfortable with simply removing the
package.
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I am also having the same problem with my ThinkPad T60. Without LMT,
the battery life is horrendous. I am sure I can tweated the system
without LMT to act like LMT exist. However, after a day of configuring
the system with just pm-utils didn't produce any positive result like
LMT provides.
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