[Bug 906388] Re: updates should not remove software from computers without installing an equivalent replacement

2011-12-21 Thread manny
@john I agree. and java was just an example. This could happen with other software. I filed this initially in update-manager. It needs to have a framework to notify clearly abrupt changes to the user. maybe it could use the same notification style system planned on this bug: https://bugs.laun

[Bug 906388] Re: updates should not remove software from computers without installing an equivalent replacement

2011-12-20 Thread John Wiersba
This was not handled well at all. I encountered exactly the problem described in this bug report. I took the latest updates and lost the java plugin that my one critical app depended on. Now I can no longer run my critical app (Netilla) and am effectively dead in the water until I can figure out

[Bug 906388] Re: updates should not remove software from computers without installing an equivalent replacement

2011-12-19 Thread Marc Deslauriers
In the initial update, only the browser plugin has been disabled by removing the symlink from the alternatives system. If a user already has the openjdk browser plugin installed, it will automatically take over. If the user does not have openjdk browser plugin installed, the next time they visit a

[Bug 906388] Re: updates should not remove software from computers without installing an equivalent replacement

2011-12-19 Thread Marc Deslauriers
** Package changed: update-manager (Ubuntu) => sun-java6 (Ubuntu) ** Changed in: sun-java6 (Ubuntu) Status: Confirmed => New -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/906388 Title: updat

[Bug 906388] Re: updates should not remove software from computers without installing an equivalent replacement

2011-12-19 Thread Launchpad Bug Tracker
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users. ** Changed in: update-manager (Ubuntu) Status: New => Confirmed -- You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/906388 Title

[Bug 906388] Re: updates should not remove software from computers without installing an equivalent replacement

2011-12-19 Thread manny
** Description changed: Removal of software in this form without proper notification and equivalent replacement is un-user-friendly, un-expected and bad practice. Java is being removed in countless computers and many are not even aware of or know how to deal with this abrupt change.

[Bug 906388] Re: updates should not remove software from computers without installing an equivalent replacement

2011-12-19 Thread manny
** Description changed: Removal of software in this form without proper notification and equivalent replacement is un-user-friendly, un-expected and bad practice. Java is being removed in countless computers and many are not even aware of or know how to deal with this abrupt change.

[Bug 906388] Re: updates should not remove software from computers without installing an equivalent replacement

2011-12-19 Thread manny
** Description changed: removal of software in this form without a replacement is un-user- - friendly and un-expected. + friendly, un-expected and bad practice. Java is being removed in countless computers and many are not even aware of or know how to deal with this abrupt change. http:

[Bug 906388] Re: updates should not remove software from computers without installing an equivalent replacement

2011-12-19 Thread manny
** Description changed: removal of software in this form without a replacement is un-user- friendly and un-expected. Java is being removed in countless computers and many are not even aware of or know how to deal with this abrupt change. http://www.omgubuntu.co.uk/2011/12/java-to-be-r