Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2011-06-23 Thread Martin Wildam
On Mon, Jun 13, 2011 at 08:30, Oliver Joos 527...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: Sorry for getting off-topic. I just cannot stay calm reading everywhere that Ubuntu gets ruined. Me too, I liked it out-of-the-box from Breezy to Jaunty. For Natty I recommend the following 5 commands [...] Thanks for

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2011-06-06 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On 06/06/2011 18:54, Patrik Floding wrote: I have read more comments and other views and have come to the conclusion that Ubuntu may not be for me. I'm sorry to hear that. Have a good trip finding another Linux distribution. On the plus side the installation experience was fantastic, the

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-08-31 Thread Martin Wildam
On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:37, Andrea Ratto 527...@bugs.launchpad.net wrote: I hate the me-menu and the session button without icons. This indicator technology has potential but is incomplete and not customizable to fit all users' needs. It's five years and still this distro is managed like

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-06-18 Thread Martin Wildam
On Fri, Jun 18, 2010 at 02:29, Perky perkys...@gmail.com wrote: I can see from Mark's view that there needs to be an alternative to tooltips on tablets.  However, at the moment such devices are 'toys'. Not just at the moment, IMHO. You can't turn a car into an airplane - that is different

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-06-17 Thread Perky
I can see from Mark's view that there needs to be an alternative to tooltips on tablets. However, at the moment such devices are 'toys'. In comparison to traditional laptops/desktops they are not as good for getting work done (depending on the work). This will probably change as they mature

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-06-15 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
I don't have a monopoly on right. So I can't claim to know absolute truth on the matter. But I do know that we've taken a view, and want to stick with that. If we are wrong, we'll fix it later, and eat humble pie in the process. It wouldn't be the first time or the last. But I also know that

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-06-14 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 12/06/10 19:57, John Doe wrote: Thx Oliver, that's the first useful thing I have seen, since the Ubuntu Design Team chose to stuff nails through their heads and fuck up the useability of the system tray altogether. John, crass language is not going to win support for your ideas, and is

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-26 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
Another couple inconsistencies: the panel contains lots of other things, like applets, and a task switch, that aren't menus, and don't behave like menus, even though they sort of look like they're on a menu bar. Also, with a menu bar, you can click once to open the menu, and then move or drag the

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-13 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 13 May 2010 07:56, Alexander Pas m...@dropdev.org wrote: Another use-case where tooltips made the difference is the messaging menu. I had evolution open on the background, when suddenly the icon of the messaging menu turns green. But what does this green color mean? For all turns green i

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-13 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 01:57, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@gmail.comwrote: For all turns green i get NotifyOSD bubble notification saying what's happened. Don't you as well? =) Doesn't help if you're away from the computer for the ~4 seconds the popup is there... -- Jeremy Nickurak -=

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-13 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 13 May 2010 15:20, Jeremy Nickurak jer...@nickurak.ca wrote: On Thu, May 13, 2010 at 01:57, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@gmail.comwrote: For all turns green i get NotifyOSD bubble notification saying what's happened. Don't you as well? =) Doesn't help if you're away from the computer

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-12 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
Please see (and follow) the HIG: Are you referring to the out-of date Gnome HIG which hasn't been revamped for Gnome3 yet? The HIG is good but remember it is Guidelines not a Law. Right click = menu Left click = show/hide main app Double click = default action (like play/pause for example)

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-12 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 12 May 2010 23:28, Marck Robinson ma...@powerdata.com wrote: What is wrong with a win/win solution? See attached screenshot of a loss/loss situation 1) What's the time date? (I'm hovering over the date/time applet) 2) Is my sound muted, low or high? 3) Do I have any pending messages in the

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-12 Thread Perky
My momdad have a lot of troubles to understand difference between left click, right click double click. When I guide them over the phone to fix something i always tell them the OTHER click to get their attention to do right click. You will now have to describe the icon to click on

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-12 Thread Oliver Joos
On 11.05.2010, 17:39 + Dmitrijs Ledkovs wrote: What infomration are you missing in the current desktop? A few things already identified 1) Time left until battery charged 2) UbuntuOne syncing, up-to-date, failed Anything else? More tooltips that I like in Karmic: 3) number of

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-11 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 11 May 2010 09:58, Martin Wildam mwil...@gmail.com wrote: Trying to get constructivity back in this thread: I can understand and agree to the intention to reduce system tray icons. The reason why the system tray came up was (from my understanding): Some applications run continuously and

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-11 Thread Martin Wildam
On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@gmail.com wrote: Here shutter needs to be running as a service/daemon. Can you keep it open on another virtual desktop and assign global shortcuts to do screenshots? Don't understand, what you mean. I don't know if I could assign

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-11 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 11 May 2010 13:13, Martin Wildam mwil...@gmail.com wrote: On Tue, May 11, 2010 at 12:04, Dmitrijs Ledkovs dmitrij.led...@gmail.com wrote: Here shutter needs to be running as a service/daemon. Can you keep it open on another virtual desktop and assign global shortcuts to do screenshots?

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-11 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
To sum up this bug report We have a few places to stick additional information 1) New Indicator - notification menu 2) Power button indicator 3) Me menu 4) Messaging menu Everyone who is subscribed to this bug: What infomration are you missing in the current desktop? A few things already

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-09 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 9 May 2010 23:35, Kangarooo kangarooo+b...@gmail.com wrote: #121 eh what do you mean by that? if u didnt know as i can see here is democracy. yesterday was mothers day and europes day. also yesterday was Soviet soldier celebration 65 year aniversary for what they did in berlin to city

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-07 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
you can have a 2gb ubuntu one account ;-) *and* a virtual cookie =) On 7 May 2010 10:18, Oliver Joos oliver.j...@hispeed.ch wrote: And another +200. Ha! That makes 3! Do I win something? An extra tooltip?? -- please include status messages/tooltips

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-07 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
Guys, please don't get into a tit-for-tat about who's opinion is more valid. 144 users registering interest in a bug is very significant. That's valuable feedback, and it is appreciated. I know there are are strong opinions on the subject, and debate is valuable. Please conduct that on the

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-07 Thread Mark Shuttleworth
On 07/05/10 10:18, Oliver Joos wrote: And another +200. Ha! That makes 3! Do I win something? An extra tooltip?? Wow, it's like this is a democracy or something :-) -- please include status messages/tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/527458 You received this bug notification

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-07 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Friday 07,May,2010 10:03 PM, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: Guys, please don't get into a tit-for-tat about who's opinion is more valid. 144 users registering interest in a bug is very significant. That's valuable feedback, and it is appreciated. I know there are are strong opinions on the

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-07 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
On 7 May 2010 15:03, Mark Shuttleworth m...@canonical.com wrote: But a bug tracker is not the right place for he-said-she-said, tit-for-tat point scoring. Gathering facts is useful, and the more we keep the content of this bug about those, the more valuable it is. So please just resist the

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-07 Thread Oliver Joos
On 07/05/10 14:04, Mark Shuttleworth wrote: On 07/05/10 10:18, Oliver Joos wrote: And another +200. Ha! That makes 3! Do I win something? An extra tooltip?? Wow, it's like this is a democracy or something :-) Sorry for my sarcasm. I read so much about the topic that sometimes I

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-06 Thread Dmitrijs Ledkovs
There are plently of dashboards which can overlay IP, up/down link sppeds, memory/processor usage, current song, date etc. Banshee shows NotifyOSD notifications when new song starts playing with song artist. And I personally have gnome-system-monitor mapped to a shortcut to get information

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-06 Thread Alexey Kotlyarov
Ubuntu is estimated to have 12 million users. 144 are affected by this bug. -- please include status messages/tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/527458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-06 Thread Omer Akram
@Alan most people dont even care :-) -- please include status messages/tooltips https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/527458 You received this bug notification because you are a member of Ubuntu Bugs, which is subscribed to Ubuntu. -- ubuntu-bugs mailing list ubuntu-bugs@lists.ubuntu.com

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-06 Thread Alan Lord
On 06/05/10 17:58, Omer Akram wrote: @Alan most people dont even care :-) I'm amazed how so many poeple seem to know about what everyone else thinks. How do you *know* most people don't even care? I don't know that. Al -- please include status messages/tooltips

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-06 Thread Omer Akram
Here is the reason: my neighbour and a friend who were using Karmic I updated them to lucid the next day as lucid came out. I meet them often daily and ask about how is lucid they mention other problems but never mentioned the tooltips :-) How do you *know* most people don't even care? I don't

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-05-03 Thread Omer Akram
Hmmm, people maybe annoyed by not having tooltips but one thing that I have discovered is that you have to wait 1sec(maybe a few pico seconds less) on the icon for the tooltip to appear (network manager) but when you have to direct and click like the menus it takes only 0.5sec maybe less depending

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-04-27 Thread Tom Jaeger
On 04/27/2010 04:33 PM, Frederik Elwert wrote: As others, I’m not against change in the systray thing. And I don’t want to complain about a change just because it is a change. I just request answers to these simple questions: 1. How do I know the current charging (percentage) of my laptop

RE: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-04-19 Thread Willem Kan
In addition to that: I just tried out Fedora 13 beta and it looks really nice. I may or may not decide to vote with my feet... _ Een netbook met Windows 7? Hier vind je alles dat je moet

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-03-26 Thread Jeremy Nickurak
Except of course that if it's triggered by a user action (hovering the mouse over an icon), there's a notification potentially on the opposite side of the screen, away from where attention is currently focused. A big intuitivity loss from tooltips, in my opinion. On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 08:59,

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-03-26 Thread J Putt
On 27 March 2010 04:33, Jeremy Nickurak ubuntu-b...@trk.nickurak.ca wrote: Except of course that if it's triggered by a user action (hovering the mouse over an icon), there's a notification potentially on the opposite side of the screen, away from where attention is currently focused. A big

Re: [Bug 527458] Re: please include status messages/tooltips

2010-03-19 Thread Chow Loong Jin
On Friday 19,March,2010 08:14 PM, Jud Craft wrote: The issue seems to be that indicator icon information is not immediately available on mouseover. Instead of a tooltip, why not just automatically open the menu on mouse- over, similar to KDE's panel menus in OpenSUSE? It would mean that