In the Ubuntu Error Tracker we can see that this crash is still
occurring regularly for calibre users on Ubuntu 16.04.
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This will be fixed in cosmic in the next upload:
root@cosmic-bind9-merge-9114:~# dig @127.0.0.1 +idnout räksmörgås.se
; <<>> DiG 9.11.4-3ubuntu1~ppa2-Ubuntu <<>> @127.0.0.1 +idnout räksmörgås.se
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status:
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1776194 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1776194
--- Comment From heinz-werner_se...@de.ibm.com 2018-07-30 11:26 EDT---
IBM Bugzilla status .> closed, Fix Relased with libica 3.3.3 which is already
avaialbe via LP1776194 am BZ168758
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depois desse erro não consigo instalar mais nada, tudo que tento
instalar da erro!
ProblemType: Package
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04
Package: python3-update-manager 1:18.04.11.3
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-29.31-generic 4.15.18
Uname: Linux 4.15.0-29-generic x86_64
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version of the
Public bug reported:
Package description claims virt-image is included but it no longer is.
$ apt-file list virtinst | grep image | wc -l
0
$ apt-cache show virtinst
Package: virtinst
Architecture: all
Version: 1:1.5.1-0ubuntu1
Priority: extra
Section: universe/admin
Source: virt-manager
** Changed in: ubuntu-power-systems
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[18.10] Enabled LLDB on ppc64el
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This bug was fixed in the package ca-certificates-java -
20180516ubuntu1~18.04.1
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* Backport from Cosmic. (LP: #1770553)
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Hello Justin,
Thank you for submitting this bug and reporting a problem with cups and
printing. You made this bug report some time ago and Ubuntu has been updated
since then.
Could you confirm that this is no longer a problem and that
Thanks Tom. Closing by marking "Invalid" as bug report was never
actually confirmed.
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package nvidia-340 (not installed) failed to install/upgrade: trying
to overwrite
please test the patch in
https://launchpad.net/~costamagnagianfranco/+archive/ubuntu
/locutusofborg-ppa/+packages
and somebody do the paperwork mentioned here
https://wiki.ubuntu.com/StableReleaseUpdates#SRU_Bug_Template
Since this is a regression in a security upload, this should probably be
with the file ;-)
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# lsb_release -a
No LSB modules are available.
Distributor ID: Ubuntu
Description:Ubuntu 18.04.1 LTS
Release:18.04
Codename: bionic
# dpkg -l | grep neutron
ii neutron-common 2:13.0.0~b2-0ubuntu1~cloud0all
Neutron is a
** Also affects: cinder (Ubuntu)
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Status: New
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Unable to force delete a volume
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Title:
Update loop for Thunderbolt NVM for Xps notebook 9360. Installed
version is not recognized (00.00)
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I have a similar HP dc5800 machine. Booting from 4.15 kernel after
upgrade to Ubuntu 18.04 results in very quick kernel crash (less than 1
second), as does booting from the Ubuntu 18.04 "desktop" install DVD.
In both cases booting with "acpi=off noapic" added to the kernel boot
parameters works
Same here with 18.04. Evince prints some PDF images in inverted colors,
while Firefox would print them just fine.
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Evince displays pdf
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This bug was fixed in the package keepalived - 1:1.3.9-1ubuntu0.18.04.1
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keepalived (1:1.3.9-1ubuntu0.18.04.1) bionic; urgency=medium
* d/p/fix-removing-left-over-addresses-if-keepalived-abort.patch:
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* d/patches/lshw-add-json-option-in-help-output.patch,
* d/patches/lshw-fix-unknown-version-issue.patch:
Cherry pick from upstream. (LP: #1752523)
*
I got snes9x working by manually adding snes9x.libretro:
[Libretro]
Type=Emulator
Version=1.0
Name=snes9x
Module=snes9x_libretro.so
LibretroVersion=1
Authors=BearOso;OV2
License=MIT;
[Platform:SuperNintendoEntertainmentSystem]
MimeType=application/vnd.nintendo.snes.rom;
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* Convert triggers to noawait (LP: #1780996) (Closes: #903915)
- the trigger is supposed to register slib with guile-2.0 but the
registration is a
This bug was fixed in the package xl2tpd - 1.3.10-1ubuntu1
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* Fix ENODEV errors with linux kernel 4.15 (LP: #1760796)
- d/p/fix-for-enodev.patch: cherry-pick patch from upstream to no
longer attempt to obtain IP_PKTINFO
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uprobes: fix SIGSEGVs with setjmp/longjmp
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This will be fixed in cosmic in the next upload:
root@cosmic-bind9-merge-9114:~# dig @127.0.0.1 +idnout räksmörgås.se
; <<>> DiG 9.11.4-3ubuntu1~ppa2-Ubuntu <<>> @127.0.0.1 +idnout räksmörgås.se
; (1 server found)
;; global options: +cmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status:
I will ping doko about this.
Usually, the gcc-8 package is updated from the stable branch frequently.
Thus landing this on the stable branch, should be sufficient for this to
be included in subsequent toolchain uploads.
** Package changed: llvm-defaults (Ubuntu) => gcc-8 (Ubuntu)
** Also
Hi,
I found the solution, that works at least for me.
https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/linux/+bug/1777345/comments/8
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Title:
sound
Thanks, that makes sense.
So it really seems to be the newer virtio drivers in the guest that triggers it
- which is why the move to the HWE kernel
For test systems, I tried to grab a p8 but it failed to install three times in
a row. Not sure what is broken atm, so at least for a while I'll
Public bug reported:
SRU Justification
Impact:
The upstream process for stable tree updates is quite similar
in scope to the Ubuntu SRU process, e.g., each patch has to
demonstrably fix a bug, and each patch is vetted by upstream
by originating either
Great!
I do see this:
15:14:06:0715 Thunderbolt Attempt 0: Failed to read NVM version
Which means it did use the new logic. Please leave a comment in the PR
on GitHub to assist in it getting accepted.
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Hi,
I found the solution, at least, it works for me.
First of all I blocked amd64-microcode in modprobe.d with "install
microcode /bin/true"
Second, I added "option snd-hda-intel probe_mask=1" into /etc/modprobe.d
/alsa-base.conf
Now I have sound card and sound and latest kernel
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1.0.19-1ubuntu0.18.04.1
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* debian/fusiondirectory.triggers: Be specific about using interest-noawait
for the triggers -- there's no need to block in awaiting
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* Convert triggers to noawait (LP: #1780996) (Closes: #903915)
- the trigger is supposed to register slib with guile-2.0 but the
registration is a
This bug was fixed in the package ca-certificates-java -
20180516ubuntu1~18.04.1
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* Backport from Cosmic. (LP: #1770553)
ca-certificates-java (20180516ubuntu1) cosmic; urgency=low
* Merge from Debian
This has been fixed.
** Changed in: chromium-browser (Ubuntu)
Status: Incomplete => Fix Released
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Menu key ineffective when
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SRU
--- Comment From xxd...@de.ibm.com 2018-07-30 06:53 EDT---
Here ist the information I can give immediately:
(a) Ubuntu 16.04.4 KVM hypervisor:
kernel 4.4.0-130-generic
# virsh version
Compiled against library: libvirt 1.3.1
Using library: libvirt 1.3.1
Using API: QEMU 1.3.1
Running
--- Comment From xxd...@de.ibm.com 2018-07-30 07:10 EDT---
regarding reproducibility:
yes it is absolutely reproducible
In the meantime I updated the 18.04 VM to 18.04.1.
Live migration still fails.
root@pkvm2:~# virsh migrate --persistent --live p8lnxtst4
qemu+ssh://pkvm1/system
Google Translate from German to English indicates initial description
is:
"since I used Caliber on Ubuntu 18.04 LTS, the Caliber Editor does not
show a table of contents of the index_split_xxx.html files on converted
PDF files. If I do the same under Windows 10, the ad is ok.
The fault diagnosis
The upstream bug is https://bugzilla.gnome.org/show_bug.cgi?id=579859
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** Changed in: calibre (Ubuntu)
Status: Incomplete => New
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Plugins werken niet meer na laatste update 3.24.2
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Eclipse not starting with org.eclipse.equinox.launcher.Main.main
Well... I think syslog is important
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Expected behavior
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Timeout is set to 3-5 seconds (as I remember)
Actual behavior
---
Boot delayed - timeout is set to
** Also affects: glib (Ubuntu)
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Status: New
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Is there any idea or plan when this will be resolved?
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Better error message for unsupported kernel
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Haha, indeed. Thanks! It's been inactive for 9 years, though.
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Łukasz, Adam, thanks a lot for your help.
I don't know if Abdul tested Ubuntu's build but he did test successfully
with a build I did last week, when debian-installer was no yet rebuilt
on Ubuntu's side. Indeed that made sense on hwe which he tested ok.
Thanks for taking this pro-actively in
** Summary changed:
- gnome-games-app and retro-gtk do not pick up pcsx-reloaded and other
libretro cores
+ gnome-games-app and retro-gtk do not pick up pcsx-reloaded and the libretro
cores due to missing descriptor files
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This is the upstream bug report:
https://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/12851
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http://www.virtualbox.org/ticket/12851
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I get this error every time
ProblemType: Package
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04
Package: google-android-build-tools-installer:i386 23.0.3
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-20.21-generic 4.15.17
Uname: Linux 4.15.0-20-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7
AptOrdering:
I believe it is working properly now.
*Kenny*
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In general I can confirm the above described behaviour for my fresh
Ubuntu 18.04 upgrade:
- shortly after reboot I can't reproduce the problem too
- after a couple of days of notebook standby/wakeup you suddenly see during
reboot or switch user the tty1 screen with all typed usernames/password
*** This bug is a duplicate of bug 1750138 ***
https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1750138
Thank you for taking the time to report this crash and helping to make
this software better. This particular crash has already been reported
and is a duplicate of bug #1750138, so is being marked as such.
** Changed in: ubuntu-defaults-it (Ubuntu)
Status: New => Invalid
** Changed in: ubuntu
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Problem is, that some systems with ubuntu-defaults-it , ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn
and ubuntu-defaults-baltix packages installed doesn't have line
intl.locale.requested=""
in /usr/lib/firefox/distribution/distribution.ini
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** Changed in: linux (Ubuntu Bionic)
Status: In Progress => Fix Committed
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RTNL assertion failure on ipvlan
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upgraded everything: firmware, mesa, kernel (rc7.) Now it crashes.
First crash was different from subsequent ones.
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netns: unable to follow an interface that moves to
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subsequent crashes look more like this
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This also happens on Power9. I was able to reproduce it with upstream's
trunk as of last week.
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** Also affects: firefox via
https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=1477176
Importance:
Public bug reported:
Forking https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/apparmor-profiles-
extra/+bug/1784023 with a patch for snapd.
Please integrate this.
** Affects: snapd (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Attachment added: "snapd-usrmerge.patch"
This bug was fixed in the package lttng-modules - 2.8.0-1ubuntu1~16.04.7
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* ubuntu_lttng_smoke_test failed on Azure 4.15 (LP: #1778642)
-
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cosmic mind,
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Thanks for the update, Marcoratto. I will close the report now.
Have a great day!
:)
G
Closed per reporter’s feedback.
** Changed in: calibre (Ubuntu)
Status: Incomplete => Invalid
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JoEllen,
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Felipe,
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Thanks for the update, Orri. I will close the report now.
Have a great day!
:)
G
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** Changed in: calibre (Ubuntu)
Status: Incomplete => Invalid
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the new live installer in ubuntu 18.04 has the option to import ssh keys from
lauchpad.
for some reason it thinks launchpad usernames can not be one letter long,
this prevents me from importing my key from launchpad.
** Affects: ubiquity (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
** Tags added: xenial2bionic
** Tags added: third-party-packages
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I cant upgrade Ubuntu mate 16.04.5 to 18.10 in my PowerMac G5
To
My Calibre (under Ubuntu) is behaviong perfectly well. now.
Since reporting the bug, I upgraded fro Ubuntu 16 to 17, which involves
replacing lots of shared libs. Thus, I can't discern what, in
particular, "did the trick".
Thank you,
Roert Wohlhueter
On 7/29/18 4:11 PM, gf wrote:
> Hello
** Changed in: man-db (Ubuntu)
Status: New => In Progress
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** Changed in: man-db (Ubuntu)
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Problem exist also in ubuntu-defaults-it , ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn and
ubuntu-defaults-baltix packages - line
intl.locale.requested=""
is missing in /usr/lib/firefox/distribution/distribution.ini
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Problem is, that some systems with ubuntu-defaults-it , ubuntu-defaults-zh-cn
and ubuntu-defaults-baltix packages installed doesn't have line
intl.locale.requested=""
in /usr/lib/firefox/distribution/distribution.ini
See LP bug #1771272 and bug #1755918 for more info.
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Reinstalled mysql to fix the issue
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package systemd 229-4ubuntu21.2
Here is the backtrace when starting it with `firefox -g`.
```
#0 0x0001e96c in arena_t::SplitRun(arena_run_t*, unsigned long, bool,
bool) (this=0x7770, aRun=0x74a1, aSize=1048576, aLarge=false,
aZero=false) at
$ remove-package -m 'FTBFS on armhf, no longer built in Debian; LP: #1784348'
-b -a armhf -s cosmic libflint-arb-dev libflint-arb2 sagemath
Removing packages from cosmic:
libflint-arb-dev 2.11.1-2build1 in cosmic armhf
libflint-arb2 2.11.1-2build1 in cosmic armhf
sagemath
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Perhaps, the system not recognize my PowerPC processor for upgrade it.
System Spec:
Processor: PPC970FX, altivec supported × 2
Memory: 4GB
Video: Nvidia Geforce 5200 ultra (AGP pro)
Versión 16.04.5 LTS (Xenial Xerus) de 32-bit
Núcleo Linux 4.4.0-131-powerpc64-smp ppc64
theloveiknow,
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One last thing: There is an upstream libretro repository (PPA). I will check
back first, but I tried those upstream packages and they didn't work as well.
Just for your information. They probably miss the descriptor files as well.
** Changed in: gnome-games-app (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed
Confirmed these are no longer built in debian:
$ rmadison -S flint-arb -s unstable -u debian
flint-arb| 2.11.1-2 | unstable | source
flint-arb| 1:2.12.0-3| unstable | source
libflint-arb-dev | 2.11.1-2+b1 | unstable | armel, armhf
libflint-arb-dev | 1:2.12.0-3
Exalm on #gnome-games had an idea:
exalm[m]
Ok, so if you see them, but can't run them, it's cores
amano
I see those games but when clicking on them it says that "the system is not yet
supported
exalm[m]
Yes, it's cores
ls /usr/lib/libretro
Or lib64
Could you show that
So the proper fix seems to be to ship the descriptor files within the
.deb packages of the libretro cores and install them alongside the .so
files in /usr/lib/libretro
I guess that bug is invalid then and I should file a bug against
libretro?
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garbage
ProblemType: Package
DistroRelease: Ubuntu 18.04
Package: mysql-server-5.7 5.7.22-0ubuntu18.04.1
ProcVersionSignature: Ubuntu 4.15.0-29.31-generic 4.15.18
Uname: Linux 4.15.0-29-generic x86_64
ApportVersion: 2.20.9-0ubuntu7.2
AptOrdering:
Google translate from Dutch to English indicates description is:
"After the last update, I can no longer download the metadata and
several plugins are no longer working. The update is 3.24.2."
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** Description changed:
When BFQ is used, disk IO will hang some seconds after boot. This was
also reported in some public MLs [1][2]. The fix is already in mainline,
but it's not available in 4.15.
[1] https://lkml.org/lkml/2017/12/1/80
[2]
Hello
Thank you for submitting this bug and reporting a problem with Calibre.
Could you run the following (only once):
apport-collect BUGNUMBER
and upload the updated logs and and any other logs that are relevant for this
particular issue.
Thank you again for helping make Ubuntu and Calibre
Bug also present in the 4.4.0-131-generic kernel
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1782544
Title:
tcpreplay and veth device; extra transmit bytes on 4.4.0-130-generic
kernel
To
** Also affects: linux-gcp (Ubuntu Xenial)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
** Changed in: linux-gcp (Ubuntu Xenial)
Status: New => In Progress
** Changed in: linux-gcp (Ubuntu Bionic)
Status: New => In Progress
** Changed in: linux-gcp (Ubuntu Xenial)
Importance:
Thanks for your reply. Closing by marking as "Invalid" as report was
never confirmed.
** Changed in: firefox (Ubuntu)
Status: Incomplete => Invalid
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Reinstalling Eclipse and Eclipse C/C++ Development Tooling also did not
change the error.
$ sudo apt-get install --reinstall eclipse eclipse-cdt g++
Reading package lists... Done
Building dependency tree
Reading state information... Done
0 to upgrade, 0 to newly install, 3 reinstalled, 0
** Changed in: openjdk-7 (Ubuntu)
Status: Incomplete => Confirmed
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https://bugs.launchpad.net/bugs/1778930
Title:
JVM crash with SIGSEGV as tomcat start with 7u181
To manage
** Description changed:
+ SRU Justification
- SRU Justification
+ Impact:
+ The upstream process for stable tree updates is quite similar
+ in scope to the Ubuntu SRU process, e.g., each patch has to
+ demonstrably fix a bug, and each patch is vetted by upstream
+
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