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Bug trackers are for information related to bugs. If you're unable to
contribute something meaningful - go whine someplace else: there're
forums, twitter, social networks for that.
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I'm not a systemd hater
Don't flatter yourself. Since when exactly inability of some users to
run sudo apt install ntpdate equals to systemd hegemony?
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I'm not a systemd hater
Don't flatter yourself. Since when exactly inability of some users to
run sudo apt install ntpdate equals to systemd hegemony?
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@god, be nice, apply logic and be productive or go home. It appears you
have some deficiency to understand what I wrote and didn't write.
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@god, be nice, apply logic and be productive or go home. It appears you
have some deficiency to understand what I wrote and didn't write.
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The other bug was closed and now it's just systemd-timesyncd in minimal.
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = Invalid
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Status: Triaged = Fix Released
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The other bug was closed and now it's just systemd-timesyncd in minimal.
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Status: Confirmed = Invalid
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Status: Triaged = Fix Released
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Not a good development in my opinion since it ties everyone more and
more firmly to the systemd hegemony. I'm not a systemd hater but I
don't think this is a good direction. Nonetheless, I guess it's better
than what we currently have which is unmaintained code.
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Not a good development in my opinion since it ties everyone more and
more firmly to the systemd hegemony. I'm not a systemd hater but I
don't think this is a good direction. Nonetheless, I guess it's better
than what we currently have which is unmaintained code.
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Yes, I thought it would be more clear cause I can't change the title of
this bug. Once the patch is applied and updated meta-packages pushed
both bugs could be safely closed.
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Yes, I thought it would be more clear cause I can't change the title of
this bug. Once the patch is applied and updated meta-packages pushed
both bugs could be safely closed.
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@god that was what was done according to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihVibT0Lm0I, and I see you opened a new
bug for it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-
meta/+bug/1451247
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@god that was what was done according to
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ihVibT0Lm0I, and I see you opened a new
bug for it here https://bugs.launchpad.net/ubuntu/+source/ubuntu-
meta/+bug/1451247
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It would be much better to replace it with systemd-timesyncd calls and
drop ntpdate dependency altogether.
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It would be much better to replace it with systemd-timesyncd calls and
drop ntpdate dependency altogether.
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Consider replacing ntpdate
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Milestone: ubuntu-15.02 = None
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Milestone: ubuntu-15.02 = None
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** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Milestone: ubuntu-15.02 = None
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
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@aquina:
ntpd doesn't have to be shipped with a configuration that will launch it
as a daemon. It can easily be used to do ntpdate's job without
daemonizing.
Also, the ntpd binary is actually only around 2/3 the size of the
ntpdate binary, so I think you may be backwards on which one is bloated.
** Changed in: ntp (Debian)
Status: Unknown = New
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** Changed in: ntp (Debian)
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@aquina:
ntpd doesn't have to be shipped with a configuration that will launch it
as a daemon. It can easily be used to do ntpdate's job without
daemonizing.
Also, the ntpd binary is actually only around 2/3 the size of the
ntpdate binary, so I think you may be backwards on which one is bloated.
Quote by r0lf: The NTP code has seen numerous security vulnerabilities
and we have to assume that ntpdate is not receiving the same scrutiny
anymore when compared to NTPd.
Sorry r0lf, but that's laughable. Do you really want people to run a
fully featured (your wording: vulnerable) NTP daemon
Quote by r0lf: The NTP code has seen numerous security vulnerabilities
and we have to assume that ntpdate is not receiving the same scrutiny
anymore when compared to NTPd.
Sorry r0lf, but that's laughable. Do you really want people to run a
fully featured (your wording: vulnerable) NTP daemon
** Also affects: ntp (Debian) via
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Importance: Unknown
Status: Unknown
** Changed in: ntp
Importance: Unknown = Undecided
** Changed in: ntp
Remote watch: Debian Bug tracker #514318 = None
** Changed in: ntp
Status:
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Status: Invalid = Confirmed
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Milestone: None = ubuntu-15.02
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** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Status: Invalid = Confirmed
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Milestone: None = ubuntu-15.02
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Consider
https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/DeprecatingNtpdate has some further
information
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https://support.ntp.org/bin/view/Dev/DeprecatingNtpdate has some further
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Title:
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I think going forward with this ticket instead of the much older bug
61619 is preferable.
ntpdate has been deprecated upstream for a long time as previously
pointed out. The NTP code has seen numerous security vulnerabilities and
we have to assume that ntpdate is not receiving the same scrutiny
Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Confirmed
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Status changed to 'Confirmed' because the bug affects multiple users.
** Changed in: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Confirmed
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this is not a bug in ntp (unless one were to advocate to replace the
ntpdate command with a wrapper calling ntp which I believe no one is
doing). Closing the ntp task.
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Status: Triaged = Invalid
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this is not a bug in ntp (unless one were to advocate to replace the
ntpdate command with a wrapper calling ntp which I believe no one is
doing). Closing the ntp task.
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Status: Triaged = Invalid
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I think going forward with this ticket instead of the much older bug
61619 is preferable.
ntpdate has been deprecated upstream for a long time as previously
pointed out. The NTP code has seen numerous security vulnerabilities and
we have to assume that ntpdate is not receiving the same scrutiny
Rofl, thanks for looking into the situation and reversing course on this
bug.
I've can confirm what you've seen about ntpdate being deprecated and
ntpd recently receiving critical vulnerability fixes.
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Adding ubuntu-meta because ntpdate lists it as a dependency, when ntpd
should be allowed as an alternative.
** Also affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Oops, I meant it the other way around: ubuntu-minimal lists ntpdate as a
dependency, such that ubuntu-minimal is uninstalled if you try to
replace ntpdate with ntpd.
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Adding ubuntu-meta because ntpdate lists it as a dependency, when ntpd
should be allowed as an alternative.
** Also affects: ubuntu-meta (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided
Status: New
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Oops, I meant it the other way around: ubuntu-minimal lists ntpdate as a
dependency, such that ubuntu-minimal is uninstalled if you try to
replace ntpdate with ntpd.
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See also bug 322518. I think we want to get rid of ntpdate, and use ntpd
everywhere, which would be more consistent.
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Triaged
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Low
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See also bug 322518. I think we want to get rid of ntpdate, and use ntpd
everywhere, which would be more consistent.
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Status: New = Triaged
** Changed in: ntp (Ubuntu)
Importance: Undecided = Low
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Importance: Unknown
Status: Unknown
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** Also affects: ntp via
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